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lugnut65 · 10-29-2013, 07:38 PM

I finally got 2,000k on my 12 ss ls3 and time to start driving it I been playing around with launches and full throttle kicks And I observed two things Drive by wire blows,and the nannies are really annoying
The hesitation from a kick until the pedal catches up with the throttle blade really is a bummer Also I turned off all nannies(hold button for 10 seconds)and tried to light the tires all I got was a bunch of wheel hop
I dumped it at about 4k and it chattered all the way through first gear
Is this what we have to deal with on modern muscle cars

Steve · 10-29-2013, 08:00 PM

A lot of the hop is from the stock trailing arms i replaced mine with Pfadt arm with polyurethane bushings and it helped out quite a bit.

camaro500 · 10-29-2013, 08:07 PM

Arm package from pfadt and bmr inserts solved it for me

lugnut65 · 10-29-2013, 08:27 PM

Went to the website pfadt and theres a lot of choices Can you specify what I need
Thanks
Any comment on the Drive by wire I seen jegs sells module you plug in at the pedal supposed to take care of it,but its $399

Dznts · 10-29-2013, 08:28 PM

http://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=p...&productid=477

i have these installed and love them. No wheel hop!

Bo White · 10-29-2013, 08:30 PM

Call Kyle at BMR. He will solve your problems. I've got a lot of BMR parts under the rear of my car and will say that now even with a blower its harder to spin the tires over.

Joe@CPR.com · 10-29-2013, 08:34 PM

http://store.pfadtracing.com/2010-ca...-trailing-arm/

These are what you want. We can set you up w/ any pfadt or BMR products if you wish, me personally would run the Pfdat's!

Apex Motorsports · 10-30-2013, 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lugnut65

I finally got 2,000k on my 12 ss ls3 and time to start driving it I been playing around with launches and full throttle kicks And I observed two things Drive by wire blows,and the nannies are really annoying
The hesitation from a kick until the pedal catches up with the throttle blade really is a bummer Also I turned off all nannies(hold button for 10 seconds)and tried to light the tires all I got was a bunch of wheel hop
I dumped it at about 4k and it chattered all the way through first gear
Is this what we have to deal with on modern muscle cars

Give the thread below a look. If you have any questions afterwards feel free to hit me up.

Curing 5th Gen Camaro Wheel Hop

BMR Sales · 10-30-2013, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lugnut65

I finally got 2,000k on my 12 ss ls3 and time to start driving it I been playing around with launches and full throttle kicks And I observed two things Drive by wire blows,and the nannies are really annoying
The hesitation from a kick until the pedal catches up with the throttle blade really is a bummer Also I turned off all nannies(hold button for 10 seconds)and tried to light the tires all I got was a bunch of wheel hop
I dumped it at about 4k and it chattered all the way through first gear
Is this what we have to deal with on modern muscle cars

The typical mods for handling the wheel hop are trailing arms, outer trailing arm bushings, toe rods, differential bushings, and rear cradle bushings. You are basically wanting to limit the unwanted movement in the rear suspension, rear cradle, and the differential. Probably the easiest and most affordable way to improve the wheel hop issue is with the trailing arms and outer trailing arm bushings. Now I am not saying these parts will completely control the wheel hop but it will help out substantially and will make a noticeable difference. Wheel hop is a very dynamic issue and there are numerous variables that contribute to it. If you were going to use our BMR stuff I would recommend our BMR non-adjustable trailing arms (TCA026) and our BMR outer trailing arm bushings (BK006). These parts can be bought for under $200 and can be installed with simple hand tools in a couple hours.

From there I would do the rear cradle bushings, differential bushings, and toe rods. I like doing these all at once because there is a considerable amount of overlapping labor between these parts. Depending on how much power you plan making I would either recommend our BMR "street" rear cradle bushing kit (BK041) for 450RWHP and less or our BMR "pro" rear cradle bushing kit (BK030) for anything more. These kits come with both the rear cradle bushings and differential bushings. For the toe rods I would recommend our BMR non-adjustable toe rods (TR002).

If you have any questions or if there is anything we can help you with let me know.

KING_DJ · 10-30-2013, 08:35 AM

I don't want to jack your thread but damn why is it so hard to find post new thread? Im new to this!

JDP Sales · 10-30-2013, 02:42 PM

The main items to address are the cradle bushings (either full bushing replacement or inserts for lower power levels) Upper control arm bushings, Trailing arms and toe rods.

We are a dealer for just about every suspension manufacturer out there and we install all of the parts we sell so we know what works! If you would like to discuss your goals for the car (long term) I'd be happy make a few recommendations that will fit your goals and budget and get you setup with the right parts the first time. We also offer great deals to forum members.

Please feel free to call, PM or email me anytime with questions.

Best regards,

Tyler
888-308-6007

JDP Sales · 10-30-2013, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KING_DJ

I don't want to jack your thread but damn why is it so hard to find post new thread? Im new to this!

The "new thread" icon is on the top left hand corner above the thread listings.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=93

You can also call, PM or email us anytime with questions and we are happy to help!

Best regards,

Tyler
888-308-6007

Spartan01 · 10-30-2013, 03:23 PM

Drive by wire does suck.
Replacing the stock throttle body with a ported one made a huge difference in throttel response, made it feel better.
i went with a V-Max ported from Tampa Tuning. Only cost me $150 plus a $150 core which was refunded within 2 days.

SGDM · 10-30-2013, 05:09 PM

Installed BMR trailing arms and bushings, problem solved. Call Kyle.

10-29-2013, 07:38 PM	#1
lugnut65 Drives: 12 2SS/RS 45th L99 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: lucasville,oh Posts: 63	STOP THE WHEEL HOP!! I finally got 2,000k on my 12 ss ls3 and time to start driving it I been playing around with launches and full throttle kicks And I observed two things Drive by wire blows,and the nannies are really annoying The hesitation from a kick until the pedal catches up with the throttle blade really is a bummer Also I turned off all nannies(hold button for 10 seconds)and tried to light the tires all I got was a bunch of wheel hop I dumped it at about 4k and it chattered all the way through first gear Is this what we have to deal with on modern muscle cars __________________ 12 RS/SS 45th L99,CAI,AND BORLA CB 70 CHEVELLE SS LSX408

10-29-2013, 08:00 PM	#2
Steve Ancalagon The Black Drives: 2013 Silverado 4X4, 2010 RJT 1SS Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Upstate - NY Posts: 901	A lot of the hop is from the stock trailing arms i replaced mine with Pfadt arm with polyurethane bushings and it helped out quite a bit. __________________

10-29-2013, 08:07 PM	#3
camaro500 Drives: 2017 Jaguar F Type R Tuned 498awhp Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Canada Posts: 871 View My Garage	Arm package from pfadt and bmr inserts solved it for me __________________ JRE cammed w.full bolt ons 444rwhp/422rwtq SOLD 2017 Jaguar F Type R ''Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.'' - F. Bueller

10-29-2013, 08:27 PM	#4
lugnut65 Drives: 12 2SS/RS 45th L99 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: lucasville,oh Posts: 63	Went to the website pfadt and theres a lot of choices Can you specify what I need Thanks Any comment on the Drive by wire I seen jegs sells module you plug in at the pedal supposed to take care of it,but its $399 __________________ 12 RS/SS 45th L99,CAI,AND BORLA CB 70 CHEVELLE SS LSX408

10-29-2013, 08:28 PM	#5
Dznts Anabolic Connoisseur Drives: Sold - Blown Camaro 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 22,094	http://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=p...&productid=477 i have these installed and love them. No wheel hop! __________________

10-29-2013, 08:30 PM	#6
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,019	Call Kyle at BMR. He will solve your problems. I've got a lot of BMR parts under the rear of my car and will say that now even with a blower its harder to spin the tires over. __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

10-29-2013, 08:34 PM	#7
Joe@CPR.com Account Suspended Drives: 03 vette, 94 trans am, 04 gto Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 995	http://store.pfadtracing.com/2010-ca...-trailing-arm/ These are what you want. We can set you up w/ any pfadt or BMR products if you wish, me personally would run the Pfdat's!

10-30-2013, 08:35 AM	#10
KING_DJ Drives: 2014 RAM HEMI Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Cocoa Posts: 52	How to create a new thread I don't want to jack your thread but damn why is it so hard to find post new thread? Im new to this!

10-30-2013, 02:42 PM	#11
JDP Sales Drives: Chevys at the limit Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 9,621	The main items to address are the cradle bushings (either full bushing replacement or inserts for lower power levels) Upper control arm bushings, Trailing arms and toe rods. We are a dealer for just about every suspension manufacturer out there and we install all of the parts we sell so we know what works! If you would like to discuss your goals for the car (long term) I'd be happy make a few recommendations that will fit your goals and budget and get you setup with the right parts the first time. We also offer great deals to forum members. Please feel free to call, PM or email me anytime with questions. Best regards, Tyler 888-308-6007

10-30-2013, 03:23 PM	#13
Spartan01 Drives: Evil Eva, 2010 2SS LS3 Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Falls Church, Virginia Posts: 3,600	Drive by wire does suck. Replacing the stock throttle body with a ported one made a huge difference in throttel response, made it feel better. i went with a V-Max ported from Tampa Tuning. Only cost me $150 plus a $150 core which was refunded within 2 days. __________________ "You simply cannot trust quotes found on the internet." -Abraham Lincoln

10-30-2013, 05:09 PM	#14
SGDM Drives: 2016 2SS Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: North Texas Posts: 1,422	Installed BMR trailing arms and bushings, problem solved. Call Kyle. __________________ Who Dares...Wins