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Old 12-03-2012, 07:13 PM   #43
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Well the 650 lingenfelter cars are putting down 550.. I talk to brent almost daily.. they have bith dynoes.

And your argument abiut crank vrs wheel..

Lets say your right.

Your car made 445 wheel. Thats 135 from flywheel. .

Your new setup is 530? That puts you at well under 700 flywheel.. the amount if power a 6l90e eats is right around 21%.. at worst.
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Old 12-03-2012, 07:14 PM   #44
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And also you should be picking up around 18-23 hp per pound of boost increase..
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Old 12-03-2012, 07:20 PM   #45
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And also you should be picking up around 18-23 hp per pound of boost increase..
Should, i dont know. This is my results. And thier great. Interesting, but great. I will have it all checked out at another shop with a Dyno Jet next week. But man what power this has. Its awesome.
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Old 12-03-2012, 07:46 PM   #46
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Not sure how you came up with 430 for stock RWHP, most everyone here stock are running around 500.
Now we are on the same page !



Most bone stock ZL1's produce 480 - 500 Rear Wheel Horsepower !
The automatic transmission cars are at the lower end of the range.

IF this ZL1 owner only got 536 RWHP after his mods that is only around 36 RWHP gain over bone stock with a good tune up and zero mods !

IF 580 Flywheel HP = around 480 - 500 on a stock ZL1 THEN I cannot understand where the 744 FWHP figure comes from

Something is wrong here.
Everyone please check out the link of a stock ZL1 making 490 RWHP.

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Old 12-03-2012, 07:52 PM   #47
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Well the 650 lingenfelter cars are putting down 550.. I talk to brent almost daily.. they have bith dynoes.

And your argument abiut crank vrs wheel..

Lets say your right.

Your car made 445 wheel. Thats 135 from flywheel. .

Your new setup is 530? That puts you at well under 700 flywheel.. the amount if power a 6l90e eats is right around 21%.. at worst.
The stock # on this dyno was 418rwhp which converted to 580 fwhp. The conversion is 28% on this dyno
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Old 12-03-2012, 07:54 PM   #48
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Now we are on the same page !



Most bone stock ZL1's produce 480 - 500 Rear Wheel Horsepower !
The automatic transmission cars are at the lower end of the range.

IF this ZL1 owner only got 536 RWHP after his mods that is only around 36 RWHP gain over bone stock with a good tune up and zero mods !

IF 580 Flywheel HP = around 480 - 500 on a stock ZL1 THEN I cannot understand where the 744 FWHP figure comes from

Something is wrong here.
Everyone please check out the link of a stock ZL1 making 490 RWHP.



Whats wrong here is you dont understand dynos, I dont mean to tell you you dont know what you are talking about, did you even see the 448rwhp the mustang dyno gave, and this is a flow master, on this dyno the stock rwhp is 418 which is 580fwhp. Nuff said rwhp not a universal # that is the same on every dyno

Rwhp #s depend on the dyno your on. only the fwhp #s stay the same. my 418 on this dyno is 490 on that dyno, which is the same as the 448 on the mustang dyno on my other sheet, what is so hard to understand about this.
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:10 PM   #49
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:14 PM   #50
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Does he really think i spent more than 12K on mods for 36hp
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:12 PM   #51
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My LPE 700+ hp kit plus headers and high flow cats makes 675 rwhp wich is about 755 flywheel. The car made 518 rwhp stock. (580/518 =755/675)
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This is the same shit I have be writing on here for a long time. I had my SS on a Mustang dyno and it made 481 RWHP. I put it on a Dynojet and it made 556 RWHP. You always get higher numbers on a Dynojet. That is what all the mod companies use to show higher numbers. It took me some time to figure all this out but this is how it works..
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My LPE 700+ hp kit plus headers and high flow cats makes 675 rwhp wich is about 755 flywheel. The car made 518 rwhp stock. (580/518 =755/675)
On what dyno, not superflow.
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This is the same shit I have be writing on here for a long time. I had my SS on a Mustang dyno and it made 481 RWHP. I put it on a Dynojet and it made 556 RWHP. You always get higher numbers on a Dynojet. That is what all the mod companies use to show higher numbers. It took me some time to figure all this out but this is how it works..
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:36 PM   #55
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As far as dynos go, the general consensus by people that to know dynos is that the mustang will read the lowest, then slightly more generous is the Dynojet with the superflow being the most generous.

I was at 715 rwhp on my LS3 before i broke a ringland and with the 15% loss i figured it was 841 at the crank. This was on a Dynojet

I have no clue where your 28% figure is coming from. I believe you are an M6 and the drivetrain loss is on avg about 15% for the M6.

There is something wrong with that particular dyno or the operator...no way should it be 28% off, on a dyno jet i bet you are around 600rwhp

You also mention a couple posts up that this is a Flow Master dyno???? Huh, i think most have given up and i myself will go and talk to my brick wall.

Anyway, good on ya for dynoing 536 to the wheels but are at a 744 to the motor.
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:56 PM   #56
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As far as dynos go, the general consensus by people that to know dynos is that the mustang will read the lowest, then slightly more generous is the Dynojet with the superflow being the most generous.

I was at 715 rwhp on my LS3 before i broke a ringland and with the 15% loss i figured it was 841 at the crank. This was on a Dynojet

I have no clue where your 28% figure is coming from. I believe you are an M6 and the drivetrain loss is on avg about 15% for the M6.

You also mention a couple posts up that this is a Flow Master dyno???? Huh, i think most have given up and i myself will go and talk to my brick wall.

Anyway, good on ya for dynoing 536 to the wheels but are at a 744 to the motor.
Excuse me not a flowmaster it's a super flow and its the lowest of the three that I have seen and my 28% figure is coming from the owner of the shop and dyno and the fact that the stock # on this dyno was 418 which is approx 28%. I wish u would give up because apparently u don't know squat. Bottom line I took my 580hp car and made it 744hp .
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