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gr8daneh · 06-18-2010, 09:21 AM

Hey all,
just finished my installation of a ******** 2x10" Kicker subs package.

Kicker ZX500.1 Amp
2 10" Kicker CVR dual coil subs at 2 ohms

This package hits really hard and looks great. I have a few questions though...

1. What can you measure and where that will tell me I have wired the subs correctly for 2 ohm load to the amp. I mean, I followed the wiring diagrams and all of that and I am sure that they are connected correctly, but how can I verify? Will and ohmeter on the positive and negative terminals of the subs read out at 2 ohms?

2. How do I correctly set the crossover frequency. Is there a rule of thumb?

Finally, I have a recommendation should anyone attempt to install one of these enclosures.

1. Do not bother to pre-mount the amp. I did so. I did it so that I wouldn't have to hold and screw it once I got the enclosure into the car. You cannot put the amp on the box before putting the box in the car, so setting the screws up front seemed to be the thing to do. Wrong. I had to drop it an inch or so to allow the seat to snap into its lock correctly. I ended up doing it in the car anyway and sweating a pool over everything!!! :(

Here are the results. Thanks in advance for any responses to my question.

-Dane

speedy_g · 06-18-2010, 10:48 AM

looks good ..but id like to know also.

mrray13 · 06-18-2010, 12:16 PM

Make sure power is off to the speakers, and disconnect the speaker wires from the terminals. Set your DMM to ohms, and touch the positive and negative to each one. In your case, you're looking for ~ 4ohms at each terminal cup. It can be a touch higher, ot lower, won't hurt, ie; 4.2ohms, 3.8ohms.

Good rule of thumb for the crossover is 80hz. Some will go higher, but I wouldn't go much over 120hz. In fact, I'd stay at 100hz or lower.

gr8daneh · 06-18-2010, 12:35 PM

Thank you! I suspected as much on the ohmage, but wanted to be sure. I appreciate the crossover info. I will play with it at the values you have suggested.

indigloflow · 06-19-2010, 09:50 AM

How hard does the bass hit? I considered either the 2 tens package or the 2 tens package. Did you install a bass control knob? How bad are the rattles?

Thanks

Jesse

gr8daneh · 07-08-2010, 12:39 PM

Sorry,
missed your post. The tens hit very hard. I am very happy with the package and I do not hear rattles yet. As hard as it hits, I am sure some will develop!!!!

I did install the bass control knob right at my right knee on the console plastic. Very easy to route from back to that location. I will post pics...

-Dane

EWR · 07-08-2010, 02:04 PM

I've got a question, why did you bring the power, ground and remote turn on up and all the way around the amp? Wouldn't it have been easier and cleaner to bring it up on the the left side and to the amp? Just curious, not knockin' your install.

Steve@Subthump · 07-08-2010, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EWR

I've got a question, why did you bring the power, ground and remote turn on up and all the way around the amp? Wouldn't it have been easier and cleaner to bring it up on the the left side and to the amp? Just curious, not knockin' your install.

If you've ever looked under the carpet in the trunk, there is channel recessed into the floor for the main power cable to run to the battery. It's much easier to use this channel because it's a straight shot and there's extra room for more wiring. If you did it the other way, you'd have a big hump under the carpet and be pushing the box up. I suppose you could rout it all the way over to the side, but you'd have to remove the sidewall carpet and use a lot more wire. Just easier to use what's there.

gr8daneh · 07-08-2010, 02:58 PM

Yes, what Steve said. I wanted to make sure there was some separation of power and signal lines as well. Good question!

Tigertrj · 07-08-2010, 04:10 PM

nice i think im going to order the 12's package

LiveStrong · 07-08-2010, 05:26 PM

Looks good!! I'm looking at placing my order this evening on this very same package. However, I am considering the 10zx750.1 Kicker amp instead. Not sure if that's too much amp for the 10 CVR 2ohm subs. I may consider going with the 12's instead if the sub enclosure is the same size. Anyone know if the enclosure for the 10's and 12's are the same size?

TMX85 · 07-08-2010, 05:57 PM

Great clean install! I have a similar setup with dual mtx jackhammer 12's and I just put in my new jackhammer 600.1 mono amp which has its own active cooling fans since the cheap kenwood I had was a pos. Looks awesome though! Anybody on the fence here about the box, harness, or setup in general should just go for it, you will not be dissapointed!

EWR · 07-08-2010, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve@********

If you've ever looked under the carpet in the trunk, there is channel recessed into the floor for the main power cable to run to the battery. It's much easier to use this channel because it's a straight shot and there's extra room for more wiring. If you did it the other way, you'd have a big hump under the carpet and be pushing the box up. I suppose you could rout it all the way over to the side, but you'd have to remove the sidewall carpet and use a lot more wire. Just easier to use what's there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gr8daneh

Yes, what Steve said. I wanted to make sure there was some separation of power and signal lines as well. Good question!

Ok guys, cool, I understand.

I don't have one yet so I haven't looked under the trunk carpet but that will change come first of the year.

2010SLVRBULIT · 07-08-2010, 09:09 PM

looks good.

06-18-2010, 09:21 AM	#1
gr8daneh 460 RWHP 420 RWTQ Drives: 2SS/RS - IBM LS3 M6 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: W.V.C., Utah Posts: 624 View My Garage	****** package installed - Questions Hey all, just finished my installation of a ****** 2x10" Kicker subs package. Kicker ZX500.1 Amp 2 10" Kicker CVR dual coil subs at 2 ohms This package hits really hard and looks great. I have a few questions though... 1. What can you measure and where that will tell me I have wired the subs correctly for 2 ohm load to the amp. I mean, I followed the wiring diagrams and all of that and I am sure that they are connected correctly, but how can I verify? Will and ohmeter on the positive and negative terminals of the subs read out at 2 ohms? 2. How do I correctly set the crossover frequency. Is there a rule of thumb? Finally, I have a recommendation should anyone attempt to install one of these enclosures. 1. Do not bother to pre-mount the amp. I did so. I did it so that I wouldn't have to hold and screw it once I got the enclosure into the car. You cannot put the amp on the box before putting the box in the car, so setting the screws up front seemed to be the thing to do. Wrong. I had to drop it an inch or so to allow the seat to snap into its lock correctly. I ended up doing it in the car anyway and sweating a pool over everything!!! :( Here are the results. Thanks in advance for any responses to my question. -Dane Attached Images __________________

06-18-2010, 12:16 PM	#3
mrray13 Drives: 2010 1LT RS Rally Yellow Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: southern Illinois Posts: 2,973	Make sure power is off to the speakers, and disconnect the speaker wires from the terminals. Set your DMM to ohms, and touch the positive and negative to each one. In your case, you're looking for ~ 4ohms at each terminal cup. It can be a touch higher, ot lower, won't hurt, ie; 4.2ohms, 3.8ohms. Good rule of thumb for the crossover is 80hz. Some will go higher, but I wouldn't go much over 120hz. In fact, I'd stay at 100hz or lower. __________________ *PacMan*

06-18-2010, 12:35 PM	#4
gr8daneh 460 RWHP 420 RWTQ Drives: 2SS/RS - IBM LS3 M6 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: W.V.C., Utah Posts: 624 View My Garage	Thank you! I suspected as much on the ohmage, but wanted to be sure. I appreciate the crossover info. I will play with it at the values you have suggested. __________________

07-08-2010, 12:39 PM	#6
gr8daneh 460 RWHP 420 RWTQ Drives: 2SS/RS - IBM LS3 M6 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: W.V.C., Utah Posts: 624 View My Garage	Sorry, missed your post. The tens hit very hard. I am very happy with the package and I do not hear rattles yet. As hard as it hits, I am sure some will develop!!!! I did install the bass control knob right at my right knee on the console plastic. Very easy to route from back to that location. I will post pics... -Dane __________________

07-08-2010, 02:58 PM	#9
gr8daneh 460 RWHP 420 RWTQ Drives: 2SS/RS - IBM LS3 M6 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: W.V.C., Utah Posts: 624 View My Garage	Yes, what Steve said. I wanted to make sure there was some separation of power and signal lines as well. Good question! __________________

06-18-2010, 10:48 AM	#2
speedy_g Drives: CAMARO RS V6 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Hoffman Estates, IL Posts: 227 View My Garage	looks good ..but id like to know also.

06-19-2010, 09:50 AM	#5
indigloflow Drives: Summit White 2ssrs inferno Join Date: May 2010 Location: Kansas City Posts: 124	How hard does the bass hit? I considered either the 2 tens package or the 2 tens package. Did you install a bass control knob? How bad are the rattles? Thanks Jesse

07-08-2010, 02:04 PM	#7
EWR Drives: Soon:'11 Camaro Now:'01 Durango R/T Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Houston Posts: 37	I've got a question, why did you bring the power, ground and remote turn on up and all the way around the amp? Wouldn't it have been easier and cleaner to bring it up on the the left side and to the amp? Just curious, not knockin' your install.

07-08-2010, 04:10 PM	#10
Tigertrj Drives: White Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Baton Rouge,La Posts: 109	nice i think im going to order the 12's package

07-08-2010, 05:26 PM	#11
LiveStrong Drives: 2012 Transformers Edition - 2SS/M6 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 47	Looks good!! I'm looking at placing my order this evening on this very same package. However, I am considering the 10zx750.1 Kicker amp instead. Not sure if that's too much amp for the 10 CVR 2ohm subs. I may consider going with the 12's instead if the sub enclosure is the same size. Anyone know if the enclosure for the 10's and 12's are the same size?

07-08-2010, 05:57 PM	#12
TMX85 Drives: 2011 IBM 2LT A6 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 110	Great clean install! I have a similar setup with dual mtx jackhammer 12's and I just put in my new jackhammer 600.1 mono amp which has its own active cooling fans since the cheap kenwood I had was a pos. Looks awesome though! Anybody on the fence here about the box, harness, or setup in general should just go for it, you will not be dissapointed! __________________ Born on 6/14 -->Arrived 6/22/10 2011 IBM 2LT A6 Bright Aluminum Wheels, Sunroof, Lip Spoiler Stealth Bulbs, Technostalgia LED tail lamps, HID's, TRIFECTA TUNE, injen CAI, CNT Racing catback exhaust, Kenwood ddx 516, metra dash kit, sirius sat radio, Hifonics Titan 1008D mono bloc amp driving a kicker solo comp 10 in its own enclosure. Power Acoustik Amp driving Hifonics 6.5 inch components and 6 x 9 infinity kappa rear components in ******** adapters, Painted Heritage Grille with custom american flag bowtie more to come!

07-08-2010, 09:09 PM	#14
2010SLVRBULIT Drives: G5(LLT) & C6(LS3) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: MARS Posts: 7,527 View My Garage	looks good.

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