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rdavis · 12-14-2019, 09:35 PM

I am getting ready for my cam swap soon. I am going with the small Texas Speed 225/236. How necessary is it to upgrade the timing chain? Car has 70k miles. A few years ago I installed a cam in my friends 2010 SS using the original chain, with no problems at all, however the car only had 14k miles.

Clarkstar · 12-14-2019, 09:55 PM

Cheap insurance.... you're already in there... replace it

And get the ls2 tensioner....

pnwdan · 12-14-2019, 10:06 PM

Like he said. It is cheap. You'll find a 50/50 mix on here of who changes it and the tensioner vs who doesnt. It's more work to remove the oil pump so you have to decide of it is what you wanna do.

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rdavis · 12-14-2019, 10:45 PM

The oil pump removal is the main reason why I am asking this question. Looks to be a pain in the ass to remove because of oil pan clearance. I already have everything I need, (C5R chain, melling pump, & LS2 dampner) I am just wondering if it is totally necessary. Thanks for the comments/suggestions.

zz430camaro · 12-14-2019, 11:15 PM

Ya do it, its not that big of a deal, a few hours

pnwdan · 12-14-2019, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rdavis

The oil pump removal is the main reason why I am asking this question. Looks to be a pain in the ass to remove because of oil pan clearance. I already have everything I need, (C5R chain, melling pump, & LS2 dampner) I am just wondering if it is totally necessary. Thanks for the comments/suggestions.

My .02 cents. I didnt change mine. I have a yukon with an LQ4. Changed the pump in it. It was a pain and I removed the pan completely. I chose not to deal with it on mine

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hammdo · 12-15-2019, 09:29 AM

I did it on mine, had ~40k miles @ the time. Took me an extra hour but was worth it.

L99...

-Don

rdavis · 12-15-2019, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hammdo

I did it on mine, had ~40k miles @ the time. Took me an extra hour but was worth it.

L99...

-Don

Did you have to drop the oil pan?

Chris49066SS · 12-15-2019, 09:45 AM

I didn't do it and have 10k miles on my cam. I wish I had done it though.

zz430camaro · 12-15-2019, 10:06 AM

Loosening the pan and replacing the oil pump and chain is not that hard to do. Just be patient when doing it.

hammdo · 12-15-2019, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by rdavis

Did you have to drop the oil pan?

Yes... was not as bad as I thought. Thus the extra hour.

Here is my build thread where I started that part:

https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showt...=385577&page=8

-Don

zz430camaro · 12-15-2019, 10:55 AM

you have to loosen the pan bolts and drop the front of it down.

pnwdan · 12-15-2019, 10:10 PM

I will add that everyone also recommends replacing the oil pump due to possible failure. Goes right along with what everyone says. Might as well because you're in there

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John_C · 12-16-2019, 01:32 AM

My tensioner was broke when we tore down my L99 for heads and cam...

Only 33k miles on the motor at the time.

https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=523981

12-14-2019, 09:35 PM	#1
rdavis Drives: 2012 SS Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Lubbock Texas Posts: 121	Timing chain I am getting ready for my cam swap soon. I am going with the small Texas Speed 225/236. How necessary is it to upgrade the timing chain? Car has 70k miles. A few years ago I installed a cam in my friends 2010 SS using the original chain, with no problems at all, however the car only had 14k miles. __________________ 2012 2SS/RS 6speed, Howards asa cam on 113lsa Stainless works LT's, NPP exhaust, Z28 Cai, 3.91 gears. Tuned by Blue Thunder 2 racing Lubbock Texas.

12-14-2019, 09:55 PM	#2
Clarkstar Drives: 2013 1SS 1LE Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Ixonia wi Posts: 1,456	Cheap insurance.... you're already in there... replace it And get the ls2 tensioner.... __________________ 2013 1le- Katech 416 short block, TSP custom grind cam, LOD intake, cnc heads by F.ED., Nick William's 102mm T.B., CORN fed, Pedders coilovers. Performance street alingnment by Justin at Lake Country Alignment and dyno tune by Late Model Throttle. 603 h.p. 495 ft lbs tq.

12-14-2019, 10:06 PM	#3
pnwdan Drives: 2014 2SS/RS Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Washington Posts: 848	Like he said. It is cheap. You'll find a 50/50 mix on here of who changes it and the tensioner vs who doesnt. It's more work to remove the oil pump so you have to decide of it is what you wanna do. Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk __________________ 2014 2SS/RS LS3/M6

12-14-2019, 10:45 PM	#4
rdavis Drives: 2012 SS Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Lubbock Texas Posts: 121	The oil pump removal is the main reason why I am asking this question. Looks to be a pain in the ass to remove because of oil pan clearance. I already have everything I need, (C5R chain, melling pump, & LS2 dampner) I am just wondering if it is totally necessary. Thanks for the comments/suggestions. __________________ 2012 2SS/RS 6speed, Howards asa cam on 113lsa Stainless works LT's, NPP exhaust, Z28 Cai, 3.91 gears. Tuned by Blue Thunder 2 racing Lubbock Texas.

12-14-2019, 11:15 PM	#5
zz430camaro Drives: 2015 1LE Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 1,485	Ya do it, its not that big of a deal, a few hours __________________ 2015 1LE, TSP 225/236 113+3, VMAX Throttle Body, CAI with race scoop, GPI Ported Intake, Land Speed Stage 2 Heads, 1-7/8 headers, NPP exhaust, 25% Fluidampr, LT1-S Monster Clutch, 485 RWHP & 444 TQ

12-15-2019, 09:29 AM	#7
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,694 View My Garage	I did it on mine, had ~40k miles @ the time. Took me an extra hour but was worth it. L99... -Don __________________ 747 RWHP 794 RWTQ "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." - Enzo Ferrari See My Build: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385577

12-15-2019, 09:45 AM	#9
Chris49066SS Drives: 2010 SS L99 Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,634	I didn't do it and have 10k miles on my cam. I wish I had done it though. __________________ Previous PB:11.079 @ 122.99mph.. New setup time: TBD The 11.079 pass: https://youtu.be/pz27Zq54t_E Build thread - www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=555371

12-15-2019, 10:06 AM	#10
zz430camaro Drives: 2015 1LE Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 1,485	Loosening the pan and replacing the oil pump and chain is not that hard to do. Just be patient when doing it. __________________ 2015 1LE, TSP 225/236 113+3, VMAX Throttle Body, CAI with race scoop, GPI Ported Intake, Land Speed Stage 2 Heads, 1-7/8 headers, NPP exhaust, 25% Fluidampr, LT1-S Monster Clutch, 485 RWHP & 444 TQ

12-15-2019, 10:55 AM	#12
zz430camaro Drives: 2015 1LE Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 1,485	you have to loosen the pan bolts and drop the front of it down. __________________ 2015 1LE, TSP 225/236 113+3, VMAX Throttle Body, CAI with race scoop, GPI Ported Intake, Land Speed Stage 2 Heads, 1-7/8 headers, NPP exhaust, 25% Fluidampr, LT1-S Monster Clutch, 485 RWHP & 444 TQ

12-15-2019, 10:10 PM	#13
pnwdan Drives: 2014 2SS/RS Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Washington Posts: 848	I will add that everyone also recommends replacing the oil pump due to possible failure. Goes right along with what everyone says. Might as well because you're in there Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk __________________ 2014 2SS/RS LS3/M6

12-16-2019, 01:32 AM	#14
John_C LSx FTW!!! Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS RS Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: TN Posts: 767	My tensioner was broke when we tore down my L99 for heads and cam... Only 33k miles on the motor at the time. https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=523981 __________________ 2010 2SS RS A6 781rwhp on E85 Stage 2 ProCharger D1X Circle D 3400 Triple Disc Kooks Jet Hot Headers Kooks Full 3in exhaust Trick Flow GenX 255's Polished PAC .660's & Ti-retainers TSP VVT 3.2 cam kit w/DoD Delete Smith Bro's Trunnion kit AEM X-Series OBDII Widebands FIC ID1300x Injectors GM ZL1 High Output Fuel Pump DSX Tuning Flex Sensor DSX Auxiliary Fuel System Tim King Stage 4 Max Effort CTSV 6L90 DSS 1 piece aluminum driveshaft JRE 6L80E / 6L90E Dipstick NGK Iridium IX spark plugs #7 heat range Mighty Mouse Camaro 5 Wild w/-12an and Billet Black HP Tuners VCM Suite