07-07-2010, 07:51 PM | #71 |
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I have the newest version,(I think the 4th or 5th version) comming from Pro Torque that they specd for my car. Ted will be installing so I know he will do whatever is needed and not release the car until he is satisfied.
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07-07-2010, 08:28 PM | #72 |
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Don't know him personally but he seems like a good dude.
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this is right from the gm service manual,, i think finding the o/s that uses full lock up will be the key to integrating it into out tcm: A torque converter with an electronically controlled capacity clutch (ECCC). ECCC was developed to reduce the possibility of noise, vibration, or chuggle caused by TCC apply. In RWD 6-Speed transmissions, this slippage can range from 0-50 RPM. Full lockup (0 RPM slip) is still available on some applications. TCC may apply in 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, or 6th gears. The specific TCC apply points and the amount of clutch slippage are determined by a number of operating conditions, including throttle position, vehicle speed, gear, as well as specific vehicle application. Transmission fluid temperature will also affect TCC apply points.
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07-08-2010, 09:48 PM | #74 |
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Also...When AFM activates it puts the TCC into a state of commanded slip. Most logs show around 50 RPM slip while still applying pressure. GM did this to aid in the smooth transition from 4 to 8 cylinders. What this means for us aftermarket converter guys is a very short converter life unless AFM is deactivated. Most if not all tuners will do this, even most handhelds will as well. You can deactivate AFM without a tune with this step by step procedure.
1. Select M on the shift selector. 2. Tap up to display 6th 3. Tap down to display 5th 4. Tap back up to 6th At this point AFM will be deactivated and won't reactivate until the shift lever is moved back to the D position.
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07-08-2010, 10:01 PM | #75 |
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Wacker, Ted is Ted Jannetty. He is the builder and tuner of my car. He said it was plug and play, those were his word exactly. He is working with Joe jr from protorque on developing a better version gen 5 converter. I trust Ted 200 percent. I'll mention this thread and see what he thinks,
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A Couple of test methods were performed: 1) Seat of the pants (see like below link and fast forward to 38-43 seconds, yep, thats Chuck driving , Joe with the death grip on the roof riding shotgun ) http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1521425 - post1521425 …and this with .05 miles on the new convertor! 2) They data logged some runs using EFI live. Later they analyzed the logs watching stall, recovery , slippage and some parameters I have no idea about. Joe took the info, and had planned to tweak the design before building another one. It’s a conservative variant on his new design, so it’s very treatable, but at the same time, allows a much better launch
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Still tuning the new verter and thought I would add some updates. Both D & S mode command a desired slip based on a multitude of parameters (load,TPS,Speed,etc). What I've had to do is modify lockup to occur no sooner than 67 MPH and be off by 62 MPH. Unless this action is taken I see anywhere from 50 to 100 RPM slip with TCC line pressure applied (VERY BAD). You can not feel this slip, only see it in the log, unless it is what I like to call "hunting". Hunting is the locking and unlocking of the verter while the TCM tries to achieve a desired slip with a converter not designed to do so. Interesting enough TUTD mode neither hunts nor slips at any speed, RPM, or load. Once these specific tables are unmasked I believe I'll be able to lock in D & S at any time I want without any slip.
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Vince @ Trifecta performance writes his own software and has/can manipulate any table/code in the ECM/TCM. It's just a matter of finding the table/code that correlates to the desired outcome. Should know something fairly soon as we both just got back from vacation and are logging our butts off.
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I wish I could add something to this thread but you guys are talking way above my head. My converter is going in this Thursday so I'll keep you updated as I get the info. I'm pretty sure that the new Pro-Torque is a 12" converter and isn't supposed to generate much more heat. I'll def keep and eye on that. My trans temps now are 180ish. Ted also mentioned something about the billet stator having double fins to lookup quicker...does that make any sense? Hopefully Ted will chime in.
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