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Chogan2200 · 05-29-2008, 12:33 PM

someone on my cavalier forum found this article.

"When Ford brought out the XR6 Turbo, many Ford fans felt a little confused, the battle between turbos and V8s had just taken a new direction. But now it’s about to go one step further with GM mulling a four-cylinder turbocharged engine for the new Chevrolet Camaro.

Chevrolet Camaro four-cylinder turbo

The reason is fuel economy, while the Camaro screams V8 muscle car, someone has to pay for the fuel and with the U.S. economy nearing a recession, selling big V8 fuel guzzlers is getting harder.

GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz told journalists at the New York motor show that the entry model Camaro has been dropped, instead GM is considering transplanting the 2.0-litre turbocharged, direct-injected four-cylinder engine from the Pontiac Solstice roadster into the Camaro. The 2.0-litre produces 194kW.

The Camaro will also be available in high output V6 and V8 variants. The V6 version of the Camaro will have the same 3.6-litre four-cam V6 engine used in the Cadillac CTS, however power will be detuned to around 195kW. Fuel economy will be around 13.8L/100km for city and 9.4L/100km for highway.

Chevrolet Camaro four-cylinder turbo

Seeing a new Camaro go past with a modified blow off valve will undoubtedly make old-school muscle car fans cry, so the crowd pleaser for the Camaro range is the 6.0-litre (capacity unconfirmed) V8 with roughly 300kW.

GM will implement a cylinder cutoff system that shuts down four-cylinders when cruising, to improve fuel economy.

Chevrolet Camaro four-cylinder turbo

Given the rising cost of petrol, GM believes buyers will compromise, some will go for the turbo, more will go for the V8, but the majority will find the right balance in the V6 with a manual transmission.

“Back in the old days, if you wanted a muscle car, to get a decent one, you had to buy the V-8, and if you bought the V-6, you got a fairly rough, unrefined pushrod engine with low horsepower and weasely performance. This time, the V-6 is 260-odd horsepower, four overhead cams, very smooth and decent 0-to-60-mph times. And now the V-6 is in its own right a very fast, very legitimate car.” ” Lutz said.

Chevrolet Camaro four-cylinder turbo

Would you buy a four-cylinder turbo Camaro? Or to turn the question around, would you buy a four-cylinder turbo HSV/FPV sedan/coupe?"

Sphinx002 · 05-29-2008, 12:36 PM

:bangdesk:

Chogan2200 · 05-29-2008, 01:37 PM

found it.

http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread...t=turbo+camaro

so apparently you all did know about it but just care more about the V8 models...

GothamCamaro · 05-29-2008, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chogan2200

found it.

http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread...t=turbo+camaro

so apparently you all did know about it but just care more about the V8 models...

Not too many Turbo/ 4 cylinder fans here and yeah most of the non new guys knew already.

I'm curious but the V8 and V6 have most of my interest.

fredl11 · 05-29-2008, 01:51 PM

to turbo something then Turbo the V8!

nbjczk71 · 05-29-2008, 03:41 PM

I agree. Most people interested in the Camaro want a V8. If you are looking for gas mileage don't buy a sports car.

Chogan2200 · 05-29-2008, 06:34 PM

oh! well I guess I registered for the wrong forum. My bad.

*CamaroSpike23* · 05-29-2008, 06:37 PM

its not that, what i think is funny is everyone is screaming "im going to get the v-8" "v8, v8 v8v8v8v8v8v8v8v8v8v8v8v8v8v8v8v8vv8v8v8v8vv8vv8888 v8v8v!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!!!!!one!!!!eleven!!!!!1!!"

and yet, i have a very strong feeling, that once the camaro comes out we'll be reading a bunch of....."well, i was going to get the v-8, but, 300hp is enough for me, and the improved gas mileage is better with prices still climbing"

oh well.

Zieke · 05-29-2008, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

and yet, i have a very strong feeling, that once the camaro comes out we'll be reading a bunch of....."well, i was going to get the v-8, but, 300hp is enough for me, and the improved gas mileage is better with prices still climbing"

No matter what happens to the economy, im getting the V8 and maxing her out. theres no way im going to get less, gotta match up with my 78 Camaro.

Chogan2200 · 05-29-2008, 07:01 PM

I guess I just found it a little amusing that NO ONE has really posted much info about the 2.0liter turbo possibility! If it wasn't for my friend from clubcav doing a little bit of investigation, I would have NEVER known about it from here!

*CamaroSpike23* · 05-29-2008, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Zieke

No matter what happens to the economy, im getting the V8 and maxing her out. theres no way im going to get less, gotta match up with my 78 Camaro.

well, based on your sig... "pushing around 300"
you could get the v-6 and be happy as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chogan2200

I guess I just found it a little amusing that NO ONE has really posted much info about the 2.0liter turbo possibility! If it wasn't for my friend from clubcav doing a little bit of investigation, I would have NEVER known about it from here!

well, you gotta consider the traditional types of motors that have gone into f-bodies. cavie owners however, are used to the smaller motors so they would be more likely to talk about it. when people hear camaro or muscle car in general, they think big motors and a slightly smaller one for the base model. we've discussed it before on here, but the fact that they (gm reps) havent stated that it WILL go into the car makes us care even less about it. we know its a possiblity/probability but its still up in the air for now. however we KNOW we will be getting a v-8 (more than likely the LS3 for the SS), a D.I. v-6 for the base model (RS), and more than likely a s/c V-8 (more than likely a derivative of the LSA/LS9) for the Z28.

Mr Twisty · 05-29-2008, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chogan2200

I guess I just found it a little amusing that NO ONE has really posted much info about the 2.0liter turbo possibility! If it wasn't for my friend from clubcav doing a little bit of investigation, I would have NEVER known about it from here!

I'm gonna go out on a limb here. After the car is released and folks drive and price the 4 it's gonna be a big seller in it's own right. Just lotsa testosterone here at the moment.
Bring your friends on over here and talk about it.
It ain't gonna be like your momma's Civic, that's fersher!

CamaroNinja577 · 05-29-2008, 07:29 PM

i have a question about the MPG what units are you using and can you convert them to standard US MPG?

stovt001 · 05-29-2008, 11:36 PM

A few things: We talked about the 2.0L turbo A LOT when it was first mentioned. There is a very long, very heated thread on it.

We imagine it will be very popular with the tuner crowd, and it also may be the way we keep our V8 in spite of CAFE. I'm happy they're considering it. It would be a smart move.

NBJCZK if that is true then why have V6s outsold V8s every single model year for the Camaro? The fact is most people who buy a Camaro will be interested in the 300 hp V6 at most, and a great many would consider a 260 I4. Those numbers match or beat the Mustang V8 and V6, respectively. Also, the Camaro is very much NOT a sports car. It is a sporty midsize car. It has a back seat and a trunk for a very good reason. For the majority of buyers this will have to be a practical daily driver, and so they need a solid balance of economy and sportiness. The 300 hp DI V6 and 260 hp DI TC I4 will do that quite nicely.

05-29-2008, 12:33 PM	#1
Chogan2200 Drives: 96 Cavalier "Scarlet" Join Date: May 2008 Location: Roanoke/Newport News VA Posts: 102	did you all know about this???? someone on my cavalier forum found this article. "When Ford brought out the XR6 Turbo, many Ford fans felt a little confused, the battle between turbos and V8s had just taken a new direction. But now it’s about to go one step further with GM mulling a four-cylinder turbocharged engine for the new Chevrolet Camaro. Chevrolet Camaro four-cylinder turbo The reason is fuel economy, while the Camaro screams V8 muscle car, someone has to pay for the fuel and with the U.S. economy nearing a recession, selling big V8 fuel guzzlers is getting harder. GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz told journalists at the New York motor show that the entry model Camaro has been dropped, instead GM is considering transplanting the 2.0-litre turbocharged, direct-injected four-cylinder engine from the Pontiac Solstice roadster into the Camaro. The 2.0-litre produces 194kW. The Camaro will also be available in high output V6 and V8 variants. The V6 version of the Camaro will have the same 3.6-litre four-cam V6 engine used in the Cadillac CTS, however power will be detuned to around 195kW. Fuel economy will be around 13.8L/100km for city and 9.4L/100km for highway. Chevrolet Camaro four-cylinder turbo Seeing a new Camaro go past with a modified blow off valve will undoubtedly make old-school muscle car fans cry, so the crowd pleaser for the Camaro range is the 6.0-litre (capacity unconfirmed) V8 with roughly 300kW. GM will implement a cylinder cutoff system that shuts down four-cylinders when cruising, to improve fuel economy. Chevrolet Camaro four-cylinder turbo Given the rising cost of petrol, GM believes buyers will compromise, some will go for the turbo, more will go for the V8, but the majority will find the right balance in the V6 with a manual transmission. “Back in the old days, if you wanted a muscle car, to get a decent one, you had to buy the V-8, and if you bought the V-6, you got a fairly rough, unrefined pushrod engine with low horsepower and weasely performance. This time, the V-6 is 260-odd horsepower, four overhead cams, very smooth and decent 0-to-60-mph times. And now the V-6 is in its own right a very fast, very legitimate car.” ” Lutz said. Chevrolet Camaro four-cylinder turbo Would you buy a four-cylinder turbo Camaro? Or to turn the question around, would you buy a four-cylinder turbo HSV/FPV sedan/coupe?"

05-29-2008, 01:51 PM	#5
fredl11 Drives: 2000 TT SS Camaro Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Davie, Florida Posts: 104	They want to turbo something then Turbo the V8! __________________ Proud Owner of: *TT 2000 SS Camaro: 486 RWHP 493 RWTQ* SOLD :( 1997 Silver C5 Destroyed Replaced with 2002 Z06 Daytona Sunset Orange 06 C6 Waiting for C7 2005 Sunset Orange Colorado Replaced with 2010 GMC Sierra SLE

05-29-2008, 12:36 PM	#2
Sphinx002 Drives: . Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: . Posts: 196	:bangdesk:

05-29-2008, 01:37 PM	#3
Chogan2200 Drives: 96 Cavalier "Scarlet" Join Date: May 2008 Location: Roanoke/Newport News VA Posts: 102	found it. http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread...t=turbo+camaro so apparently you all did know about it but just care more about the V8 models...

05-29-2008, 03:41 PM	#6
nbjczk71 Drives: 69 Camaro Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Seattle Posts: 29	I agree. Most people interested in the Camaro want a V8. If you are looking for gas mileage don't buy a sports car.

05-29-2008, 06:34 PM	#7
Chogan2200 Drives: 96 Cavalier "Scarlet" Join Date: May 2008 Location: Roanoke/Newport News VA Posts: 102	oh! well I guess I registered for the wrong forum. My bad.

05-29-2008, 07:01 PM	#10
Chogan2200 Drives: 96 Cavalier "Scarlet" Join Date: May 2008 Location: Roanoke/Newport News VA Posts: 102	I guess I just found it a little amusing that NO ONE has really posted much info about the 2.0liter turbo possibility! If it wasn't for my friend from clubcav doing a little bit of investigation, I would have NEVER known about it from here!

05-29-2008, 07:29 PM	#13
CamaroNinja577 Drives: Toyota Solara SLE Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Diego Posts: 14	i have a question about the MPG what units are you using and can you convert them to standard US MPG?

05-29-2008, 11:36 PM	#14
stovt001 Drives: 2006 Cobalt, 2004 Taurus wagon Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 3,812	A few things: We talked about the 2.0L turbo A LOT when it was first mentioned. There is a very long, very heated thread on it. We imagine it will be very popular with the tuner crowd, and it also may be the way we keep our V8 in spite of CAFE. I'm happy they're considering it. It would be a smart move. NBJCZK if that is true then why have V6s outsold V8s every single model year for the Camaro? The fact is most people who buy a Camaro will be interested in the 300 hp V6 at most, and a great many would consider a 260 I4. Those numbers match or beat the Mustang V8 and V6, respectively. Also, the Camaro is very much NOT a sports car. It is a sporty midsize car. It has a back seat and a trunk for a very good reason. For the majority of buyers this will have to be a practical daily driver, and so they need a solid balance of economy and sportiness. The 300 hp DI V6 and 260 hp DI TC I4 will do that quite nicely.