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MGW · 09-01-2010, 08:46 AM

hey guys,

i am constantly working on improving the function and performance of our shifter and have noticed something that may or may not affect all cars but in my case in a new 2011 1ss car it made a difference...

as you guys know we make our own linkage pin that connects the linkage arm to the lower linkage on our shifter. we do this because the stock pin is a bit too large in diameter for our special poly bushings.

well its only about .004" smaller but apparently some of the machined arms from the factory are looser than others so mine had quite a bit of play in it and when i installed the shifter and test drove it with the retro shaft i was getting a bit of tinging buzz at certain rpms. mainly in 3rd and 4th.

SOOO... as it turns out i made some NEW bushings for the GT500 shifter we just developed which uses a metric shoulder bolt and damned if the size isnt perfect for using the stock linkage pin.

so i am removing this pin from the kit which lowers the shifter price to 340.00 and using the red bushings in the kits forward from now.

what does this mean to existing customers???

if you have a little buzzing then email me or call julie or peggy and they can mail you out the red bushings to swap out on the linkage. you do NOT have to remove the shifter. just loosen the nuts that hold the rear bushing bracket and lower it down and slide it off. then remove the lower dust boot and push the linkage arm out of the way after removing the mgw pin. then swap out the blue bushings for the red ones and then make sure you put the OEM pin with the TWO clips in place of the MGW pin.

again...this will and has not affected all cars as i have installed PLENTY with no noise like this but it may be just a variance in tolerance or possibly even the linakge arm being sourced from a different vendor by GM.

regards
george

*GTAHVIT* · 09-01-2010, 09:17 AM

Thanks for the heads up George...

I still need to order mine....

Themossman just got his and has been giving me a hard time....

Dr Jkel · 09-01-2010, 09:35 AM

Does this affect new ones. Mine is supposed to be installed tomorrow.

MGW · 09-01-2010, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Jkel

Does this affect new ones. Mine is supposed to be installed tomorrow.

if you have received your shifter then yes it does... BUT..that doesnt mean that yours will rattle ...only SOME cars have issues.

but if you are concerned then call julie and have her mail you the bushings out... but like i said i have NOT seen this issue until these 2011s

george

Dr Jkel · 09-01-2010, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MGW

if you have received your shifter then yes it does... BUT..that doesnt mean that yours will rattle ...only SOME cars have issues.

but if you are concerned then call julie and have her mail you the bushings out... but like i said i have NOT seen this issue until these 2011s

george

OK,

I appreciate it. I'll let the shop who is installing this know about it. I am sure they know a whole lot more than I do, LOL

oachalon · 09-01-2010, 05:08 PM

What good customer service. Theres not many companies out there that will do a design change and mention it to their customers if they have a problem.

MGW shifter will be in my future (already have race knob).

tbss1 · 09-02-2010, 03:46 AM

NOW THAT IS CUSTOMER SERVICE! I'm glad that i bought an MGW shifter.

Diesel Don · 09-02-2010, 04:29 AM

George -

I've had my shifter in since around January I believe....and I absolutely LOVE it. However, I do believe I have the tinging/rattle you are describing. I have never mentioned it or anything simply because I love the shifter SO much; I figured it was just a "pay to play" scenario wherein I could accept a little more noise for a 714% improvement in feel over stock. I noticed during install that that the oem linkage pin fit just as well as the one you supplied, if not better; I put your pin in anyways. So this makes me suspect I am on the "more loose" side of things.

I am running the retro "SS" ball with the super short stick piece (ball sits right on top of leather boot). It is most pronounced in the 3/4 gates and is louder when resting my hand on the shifter (which I typically don't).

Any who, I know I'm long-winded, but I would like to try out the aforementioned "shoulder bolt". Is this something I can get down at a hardware store? If not I will gladly pay for it; I've gotten my money's worth out of that shifter already! I get lots of compliments. Thanks for being at the crossroads of form and function, MGW.

EDIT: Oops. Misread that a little bit. I will need the red bushings and not a bolt, I understand. Will e-mail. Thanks again!

P.S. This ain't no short shifter - - Its a cog commander!

Gonzo · 09-13-2010, 01:08 AM

George,

I purchased my shifter on Sep 8th. Your website had the price listed as $350 and that is what I was charged. The shifter should be showing up sometime this coming week. Do you know if it has the red bushings and minus the pin? If so, why do your prices still reflect a cost of $350? it was order #036832.

It is nice that you are letting everyone know about the design change and I may just have gotten caught up in the change-over. Still I just checked your website tonight and you still have the price for the shifter listed as $350. I will let you know what actually shows up.

I look forward to a quality product and install.

Ovenmitt · 09-13-2010, 01:49 AM

I ordered my shifter a few days ago --> what kit will I receive? I was also charged the $350, Order #036856

mikepage0007 · 09-13-2010, 06:29 AM

had to mention camaro5 for 340 ..ordered mine last week and got friday

Dr Jkel · 09-13-2010, 08:30 AM

Just got mine installed a week ago and absolutely love it, nice solid shifts, no rattle, no tingling etc... Great Mod, would definetly recommend to anyone.

MGW · 09-13-2010, 10:55 AM

hey guys,

actually i did not lower the price as i have ADDED a new part to the kit also which is a clip for the front of the boot to keep it from sagging and it worked out to be a wash....

this piece also is not totally necessary if you have no noise but i decided to make it to give the boot the support in the front to make it as sealed as possible.

what i would like to do is ANYBODY that has bought our shifter either direct or from a perf. shop or even used i dont care and would like to try the new bushings and this clip please call julie or peggy ...dont PM me as i will forget lol

regards
george

706-793-1770

mikepage0007 · 09-13-2010, 05:30 PM

wow , i guess i owe you 10.00..they did sell me it for 340 and 10 shipping..but i will give you great reviews when installed..hopefully that will make up for it..

09-01-2010, 08:46 AM	#1
MGW Drives: 2010 CAMARO SS Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: AUGUSTA, GA Posts: 235	MGW SHORT SHIFTER OWNERS PLEASE READ>>> hey guys, i am constantly working on improving the function and performance of our shifter and have noticed something that may or may not affect all cars but in my case in a new 2011 1ss car it made a difference... as you guys know we make our own linkage pin that connects the linkage arm to the lower linkage on our shifter. we do this because the stock pin is a bit too large in diameter for our special poly bushings. well its only about .004" smaller but apparently some of the machined arms from the factory are looser than others so mine had quite a bit of play in it and when i installed the shifter and test drove it with the retro shaft i was getting a bit of tinging buzz at certain rpms. mainly in 3rd and 4th. SOOO... as it turns out i made some NEW bushings for the GT500 shifter we just developed which uses a metric shoulder bolt and damned if the size isnt perfect for using the stock linkage pin. so i am removing this pin from the kit which lowers the shifter price to 340.00 and using the red bushings in the kits forward from now. what does this mean to existing customers??? if you have a little buzzing then email me or call julie or peggy and they can mail you out the red bushings to swap out on the linkage. you do NOT have to remove the shifter. just loosen the nuts that hold the rear bushing bracket and lower it down and slide it off. then remove the lower dust boot and push the linkage arm out of the way after removing the mgw pin. then swap out the blue bushings for the red ones and then make sure you put the OEM pin with the TWO clips in place of the MGW pin. again...this will and has not affected all cars as i have installed PLENTY with no noise like this but it may be just a variance in tolerance or possibly even the linakge arm being sourced from a different vendor by GM. regards george

09-01-2010, 09:17 AM	#2
GTAHVIT Blessed Drives: 2013 Sonic RS MT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Saint Augustine FL Posts: 28,444 View My Garage	Thanks for the heads up George... I still need to order mine.... Themossman just got his and has been giving me a hard time.... __________________ Click image to see build thread. PQ - "the love of cars. It's a boys first step toward manhood and a mans last hold on boyhood." Fbodfather - "We do not want to use the Z28 moniker on a car that does not deserve this hallowed name." The_Blur - "Let's not confuse competitors with equals."

09-02-2010, 03:46 AM	#7
tbss1 More then meets the eye! Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS 426 hp Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Maui Posts: 584 View My Garage	NOW THAT IS CUSTOMER SERVICE! I'm glad that i bought an MGW shifter. __________________ 2010 2SS/RS, M6, OBX 7/8" l/t headers, with high flow cats, MBRP full 3" exhaust, Whipple supercharger, 3.875 pulley, ID-1050X 1260CC injectors, JRE rough idle street blower cam kit, ZL1 fp, ZL1 fpcm, ZR1 3 bar map sensor, cold air intake, Richman 4.10 gears, BMR toe rods, trailing arms, f/r sway bars, f/r sway bar end links, BMR end link brackets, full BMR poly bushing including solid rear cradle bushings, BMR frame connectors and tunnel brace, f/r Hurst swaybar bushing brackets, Fluidamper, MGR shifter, and tune by Jannetty Racing.

09-02-2010, 04:29 AM	#8
Diesel Don Drives: 2010 VR 2SS M6 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Sandy Ego, CA Posts: 16	George - I've had my shifter in since around January I believe....and I absolutely LOVE it. However, I do believe I have the tinging/rattle you are describing. I have never mentioned it or anything simply because I love the shifter SO much; I figured it was just a "pay to play" scenario wherein I could accept a little more noise for a 714% improvement in feel over stock. I noticed during install that that the oem linkage pin fit just as well as the one you supplied, if not better; I put your pin in anyways. So this makes me suspect I am on the "more loose" side of things. I am running the retro "SS" ball with the super short stick piece (ball sits right on top of leather boot). It is most pronounced in the 3/4 gates and is louder when resting my hand on the shifter (which I typically don't). Any who, I know I'm long-winded, but I would like to try out the aforementioned "shoulder bolt". Is this something I can get down at a hardware store? If not I will gladly pay for it; I've gotten my money's worth out of that shifter already! I get lots of compliments. Thanks for being at the crossroads of form and function, MGW. EDIT: Oops. Misread that a little bit. I will need the red bushings and not a bolt, I understand. Will e-mail. Thanks again! P.S. This ain't no short shifter - - Its a cog commander! Last edited by Diesel Don; 09-02-2010 at 04:35 AM. Reason: misread and sounded dumb

09-13-2010, 06:29 AM	#11
mikepage0007 Drives: 2010 camaro Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: port st lucie ,florida Posts: 4,273	had to mention camaro5 for 340 ..ordered mine last week and got friday __________________

09-01-2010, 09:35 AM	#3
Dr Jkel and MR. HYDE Drives: 2010 2SS RJT/BLK 6Spd Man Join Date: May 2009 Location: Oxford, Alabama Posts: 4,375	Does this affect new ones. Mine is supposed to be installed tomorrow.

09-01-2010, 05:08 PM	#6
oachalon Drives: 2010 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Mentor, Ohio Posts: 999 View My Garage	What good customer service. Theres not many companies out there that will do a design change and mention it to their customers if they have a problem. MGW shifter will be in my future (already have race knob).

09-13-2010, 01:08 AM	#9
Gonzo Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS IBM 6M Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Sandy Eggo Posts: 564 View My Garage	George, I purchased my shifter on Sep 8th. Your website had the price listed as $350 and that is what I was charged. The shifter should be showing up sometime this coming week. Do you know if it has the red bushings and minus the pin? If so, why do your prices still reflect a cost of $350? it was order #036832. It is nice that you are letting everyone know about the design change and I may just have gotten caught up in the change-over. Still I just checked your website tonight and you still have the price for the shifter listed as $350. I will let you know what actually shows up. I look forward to a quality product and install.

09-13-2010, 01:49 AM	#10
Ovenmitt Account Suspended Drives: 2011 RJT 1SS Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Fort Lewis, Washington Posts: 730	I ordered my shifter a few days ago --> what kit will I receive? I was also charged the $350, Order #036856

09-13-2010, 08:30 AM	#12
Dr Jkel and MR. HYDE Drives: 2010 2SS RJT/BLK 6Spd Man Join Date: May 2009 Location: Oxford, Alabama Posts: 4,375	Just got mine installed a week ago and absolutely love it, nice solid shifts, no rattle, no tingling etc... Great Mod, would definetly recommend to anyone.

09-13-2010, 10:55 AM	#13
MGW Drives: 2010 CAMARO SS Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: AUGUSTA, GA Posts: 235	hey guys, actually i did not lower the price as i have ADDED a new part to the kit also which is a clip for the front of the boot to keep it from sagging and it worked out to be a wash.... this piece also is not totally necessary if you have no noise but i decided to make it to give the boot the support in the front to make it as sealed as possible. what i would like to do is ANYBODY that has bought our shifter either direct or from a perf. shop or even used i dont care and would like to try the new bushings and this clip please call julie or peggy ...dont PM me as i will forget lol regards george 706-793-1770

09-13-2010, 05:30 PM	#14
mikepage0007 Drives: 2010 camaro Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: port st lucie ,florida Posts: 4,273	wow , i guess i owe you 10.00..they did sell me it for 340 and 10 shipping..but i will give you great reviews when installed..hopefully that will make up for it.. __________________

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