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That's only one factor, but it IS a factor...more "work" equals more fuel equals more potential emissions...
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Now dumb question here, and I'm not trying to stir the pot I swear .
Wouldn't a 427 powered camaro kind of go against what the Z28 was all about back in the day? That seems to be the consensus I see here is that people want a new Z28 to be what is was back in the day, and or a direct competitor to the boss. |
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The Z/28 should be lighter than an SS. Less sound-deadening, etc. It should be Chevy's response to the Mustang Laguna Seca package. Z/28 buyers should be sacrificing a few creature comforts for more performance.
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07-13-2012, 06:42 PM | #216 |
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When was a Z28 made lighter than other Camaros?
It did not have a BB in it otherwise it could be ordered with everything, but an auto, vert. and air. The new 427 LS7 is a high revving SB just like the 302 was. Yes the Camaro is bigger for the 5Gen, but that doesn't keep it from being a Z28. Take a look at what Pedders has done with this chassis. The 5Gen has a very rigid chassis which is exactly what you need for a brilliant handling car. |
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I said the Z/28 should be lighter than an SS. We're not going to be able to expect Chevy to take a 283 and a 327 and mash them together this time. The original Camaro SS had a 350 as the smallest engine available, and later that year offered a 396. In the 21st Century, I doubt we can ever expect such a broad range of V8 engine choices ever again on one model car. The other way to increase power:weight is by removing pounds The Z/28 was meant for racing in the Trans Am series, and you would agree that lighter cars would have an advantage in power to weight, I would bet Also makes them potentially more nimble And originally, the Z/28 could not be had "with everything". You could not get air conditioning or an auto trans on the first Z/28s as you mention. Certainly you can see how a car with a 302 CID engine, no air conditioning, and no auto trans at least had the potential to be lighter than a car with an auto trans, 350 CID mill, and a/c. Even the wheels were DZ specific on the original Z/28s
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My point was that the 5Gen should not be without a Z28 because of its weight. It, the 5Gen can and does perform very well. And adding the LS7 will make it a Boss eater, which was its very mission many years ago. BTW, a 1st Gen Camaro SS350 weighed very much the same as a Z28. Also the Z28 wheels were 15" vs. the 14" on an SS350. |
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Yes, about 3500 lbs. What the Z/28 lost in engine weight it made up in underpinnings...the F41(?) wasn't a light package if I remember right.
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As much as we would like to bring up nostalgia, Trans Am, Mark Donahue, 302's, or anything with that period, it has no real meaning to today other than some linking of legacy to a storied name....Z28.. The LSA runs and feels just a old time big block rat motor. The LS7, if you have ever been around one that is tweeked a bit, has a devilsh high whinning, screaming, devilish noise to it. It's a screamin demon small block for sure. We want NA in a Z28, not SC. Do not confuse CID #'s with motor configuration, a LS7 is a small block of the latest technology as there ever was one. Yes, weight's an issue, and a dead horse of topical discussion. Add on's with the ZL1, well thought out and planned within a pound conscious development program to bring the best beef to the table in it's leanest form, brings the ZL1 into a 1970 Chevelle LS6 range with an automatic. Not acceptable for a Z28. I know thats clear to all of us and it's no new news. We have discussed this time and over again. The car has been built here several times over...and is ready for delivery, GM just needs to give the green light. This topic is like Groundhog day....part 2, and 3, and 4...and.....
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