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olblue75 · 09-18-2019, 11:18 AM

Starting to look at transmission upgrades for my 2010 SS with 3.91’s;
Bronze shifter cup
Bronze shifter fork pads
Hybrid synchro’s 1-4 (probably gonna use the 2nd design for 1-2 gear set which they say is supposed to grip better)
Tail housing support bearing
Should I also change the gear sets to match a M10 from a 1LE and if so will that require any tuning changes
Any other suggestions??
Other items already have:
Monster 1LT clutch an flywheel
Monster billet throw out bearing
Long bleeder line and speed bleeder
Remote reservoir and bracket
Not sure I wanna swap shifters yet

Firefighter · 09-18-2019, 11:39 AM

I think you're on point for just about all of that list. I will wonder aloud about the 1LE gear set. I have a 13 1LE and my understanding is that they are stock vs stock slower in the 1/4 mile. I assume that is why you put in the 3.91. The idea is to keep your car in 2 and 3 for most of a road course with a 1LE. Either way if you do the swap the tuning will have to be changed because all of the gearing will be different.

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olblue75 · 09-18-2019, 12:14 PM

No drag racing just road course and auto-X. An with what your saying will probably leave the M6 gears in place since the 3.91s are pretty stout with the M6. An greatly appreciate you response.

Firefighter · 09-18-2019, 03:57 PM

If you're going to road course it I'd heavily consider doing the gear swap. It still pulls like hell but there's less up and down shifts on a track with turns.

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Black_SS10 · 09-18-2019, 08:18 PM

I did all the upgrades you listed, but added the ZR1 pickup tube and used full carbon fiber blocker rings. I got the tailshaft support bearing from Rockland Gear, if I remember correctly. It's pricey too! Lol. I have 3.91s and I enjoy rowing the gears.

olblue75 · 09-18-2019, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Black_SS10

I did all the upgrades you listed, but added the ZR1 pickup tube and used full carbon fiber blocker rings. I got the tailshaft support bearing from Rockland Gear, if I remember correctly. It's pricey too! Lol. I have 3.91s and I enjoy rowing the gears.

What's the advantages to the ZR1 pickup tube??

lemontwist · 09-18-2019, 09:28 PM

i found parts and a shop that duz that kind of work about how much should something like that cost?
this place is kinda close to me
https://www.tickperformance.com/2010-camaro-ss-1/
https://www.tickperformance.com/tick...010-camaro-ss/

dlc · 09-18-2019, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Black_SS10

I did all the upgrades you listed, but added the ZR1 pickup tube and used full carbon fiber blocker rings. I got the tailshaft support bearing from Rockland Gear, if I remember correctly. It's pricey too! Lol. I have 3.91s and I enjoy rowing the gears.

Nice ride! Where did you get the full carbon fiber blocker rings?

Black_SS10 · 09-19-2019, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by olblue75

What's the advantages to the ZR1 pickup tube??

If I remember correctly, it offsets the pickup tube so that it is constantly immersed in fluid.

Black_SS10 · 09-19-2019, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by dlc

Nice ride! Where did you get the full carbon fiber blocker rings?

Thanks!

I got them from from Tick. Just need to check on checkout that you want to upgrade to full carbon fiber for 1-4. 5-6-R are hybrid.

https://www.tickperformance.com/trem...60-t56-magnum/

Matty Ice · 09-20-2019, 02:49 AM

The 1le gear set(MM6) is the same as the ZL1(MG9) except for 5th and 6th gears. Replacing the 1st three gears could be expensive. You might just want to buy a ZL1(MG9) trans and sell yours to recoup some money?
I have been researching the different gear ratio because I am planning on switching my 5th and 6th gears to get better top end acceleration, I will be switching to a M10 5th gear and a ZL1 6th gear, might even switch to the ZR1 6th gear.

olblue75 · 09-20-2019, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Matty Ice

The 1le gear set(MM6) is the same as the ZL1(MG9) except for 5th and 6th gears. Replacing the 1st three gears could be expensive. You might just want to buy a ZL1(MG9) trans and sell yours to recoup some money?
I have been researching the different gear ratio because I am planning on switching my 5th and 6th gears to get better top end acceleration, I will be switching to a M10 5th gear and a ZL1 6th gear, might even switch to the ZR1 6th gear.

Thank you for clarifying the gear set I had the backwards. An finding a ZL1 trans will be a expensive endeavor.

olblue75 · 09-20-2019, 10:31 AM

So does our trans have the 3-4 steel shift fork and if not is the T-56 the same fork??

olblue75 · 09-20-2019, 01:04 PM

Is this still a relevant mod???

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-solution.html

http://www.toquez06.com/avm.html

09-18-2019, 11:18 AM	#1
olblue75 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Clarksville Tennesse. Posts: 6,063	Trans Upgrades Starting to look at transmission upgrades for my 2010 SS with 3.91’s; Bronze shifter cup Bronze shifter fork pads Hybrid synchro’s 1-4 (probably gonna use the 2nd design for 1-2 gear set which they say is supposed to grip better) Tail housing support bearing Should I also change the gear sets to match a M10 from a 1LE and if so will that require any tuning changes Any other suggestions?? Other items already have: Monster 1LT clutch an flywheel Monster billet throw out bearing Long bleeder line and speed bleeder Remote reservoir and bracket Not sure I wanna swap shifters yet __________________ Orange Krush II 1LE Front sway bar, Splitter, shocks and struts, Z28 dual mode mufflers, Intake, UCA Bushings, and Toresen 3.91 Diff. 1 piece DSS Drive Shaft, ZL1/C7 Calipers, and 32mm JPSS Rear Bar. ASC race spec splitter and wicker. 6th Gen M017 Wheels. Stainless Works 1 7/8 LTs. DSE and PAFDT Suspension components.

09-18-2019, 11:39 AM	#2
Firefighter Drives: Black '13 2SS/RS/1LE w/NPP/NAV Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Tampa by way of Miami... Posts: 4,934	I think you're on point for just about all of that list. I will wonder aloud about the 1LE gear set. I have a 13 1LE and my understanding is that they are stock vs stock slower in the 1/4 mile. I assume that is why you put in the 3.91. The idea is to keep your car in 2 and 3 for most of a road course with a 1LE. Either way if you do the swap the tuning will have to be changed because all of the gearing will be different. Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk __________________ My Build Thread... http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=285054

09-18-2019, 12:14 PM	#3
olblue75 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Clarksville Tennesse. Posts: 6,063	No drag racing just road course and auto-X. An with what your saying will probably leave the M6 gears in place since the 3.91s are pretty stout with the M6. An greatly appreciate you response. __________________ Orange Krush II 1LE Front sway bar, Splitter, shocks and struts, Z28 dual mode mufflers, Intake, UCA Bushings, and Toresen 3.91 Diff. 1 piece DSS Drive Shaft, ZL1/C7 Calipers, and 32mm JPSS Rear Bar. ASC race spec splitter and wicker. 6th Gen M017 Wheels. Stainless Works 1 7/8 LTs. DSE and PAFDT Suspension components.

09-18-2019, 03:57 PM	#4
Firefighter Drives: Black '13 2SS/RS/1LE w/NPP/NAV Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Tampa by way of Miami... Posts: 4,934	If you're going to road course it I'd heavily consider doing the gear swap. It still pulls like hell but there's less up and down shifts on a track with turns. Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk __________________ My Build Thread... http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=285054

09-18-2019, 08:18 PM	#5
Black_SS10 SomeguyK Drives: 2010 Black 2SS/RS Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: FL Posts: 1,947	I did all the upgrades you listed, but added the ZR1 pickup tube and used full carbon fiber blocker rings. I got the tailshaft support bearing from Rockland Gear, if I remember correctly. It's pricey too! Lol. I have 3.91s and I enjoy rowing the gears. __________________ TMS 427, Dart iron Block, Forged assembly, Frankenstien heads, AGP TT 62/62 BB turbo's, AGP/Fore triple fuel system, Tilton clutch, Holley 1 7/8 shorties, Technostalgia tail lights,Oracle, Aeroforce, MGW shifter,Flowmaster, Pegasus subframe bushings,BMR trailing & toe arms,Z28 UCA bushings,Zl1 rear sway bar,Prothane,BMR,Goodridge brake lines,Ridetech HQ coilovers,3.91,Trutrac,billet caps,DSS axles,HE offest,built TR6060,1LE diffuser,Havoc spoiler,SSclones,20in MRR 017, Pirelli P Zero, Nitto NT555RII More to come.

09-18-2019, 09:28 PM	#7
lemontwist Drives: 12 2SS/RS L99,11 2SS/RS LS3totaled Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: mooresville nc Posts: 1,048	i found parts and a shop that duz that kind of work about how much should something like that cost? this place is kinda close to me https://www.tickperformance.com/2010-camaro-ss-1/ https://www.tickperformance.com/tick...010-camaro-ss/

09-20-2019, 02:49 AM	#11
Matty Ice Drives: 2015 SS/RS 1LE Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 537	The 1le gear set(MM6) is the same as the ZL1(MG9) except for 5th and 6th gears. Replacing the 1st three gears could be expensive. You might just want to buy a ZL1(MG9) trans and sell yours to recoup some money? I have been researching the different gear ratio because I am planning on switching my 5th and 6th gears to get better top end acceleration, I will be switching to a M10 5th gear and a ZL1 6th gear, might even switch to the ZR1 6th gear. Last edited by Matty Ice; 09-20-2019 at 02:52 AM. Reason: grammar

09-20-2019, 10:31 AM	#13
olblue75 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Clarksville Tennesse. Posts: 6,063	So does our trans have the 3-4 steel shift fork and if not is the T-56 the same fork?? __________________ Orange Krush II 1LE Front sway bar, Splitter, shocks and struts, Z28 dual mode mufflers, Intake, UCA Bushings, and Toresen 3.91 Diff. 1 piece DSS Drive Shaft, ZL1/C7 Calipers, and 32mm JPSS Rear Bar. ASC race spec splitter and wicker. 6th Gen M017 Wheels. Stainless Works 1 7/8 LTs. DSE and PAFDT Suspension components.

09-20-2019, 01:04 PM	#14
olblue75 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Clarksville Tennesse. Posts: 6,063	Is this still a relevant mod??? https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-solution.html http://www.toquez06.com/avm.html __________________ Orange Krush II 1LE Front sway bar, Splitter, shocks and struts, Z28 dual mode mufflers, Intake, UCA Bushings, and Toresen 3.91 Diff. 1 piece DSS Drive Shaft, ZL1/C7 Calipers, and 32mm JPSS Rear Bar. ASC race spec splitter and wicker. 6th Gen M017 Wheels. Stainless Works 1 7/8 LTs. DSE and PAFDT Suspension components.