It's been a week since the trade... initial thoughts - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

HeaterMan · 03-20-2011, 02:07 PM

Been a week since i traded in the Camaro on a Mustang 5.0, got lots of hatefull comments on that but also lots of positive feedback from people. anyhow I thought some of you might like to hear my initial impressions about the differences in the two models. please leave your childish comments out of this thread. I liked my Camaro and will own another. I am the type of guy that buys a new car every year and if i bought the same car every year i wouldnt know what anything else is like. THIS IS NOT A CAMARO VS MUSTANG THREAD

keep in mind that the mustang is an automatic and my Camaro SS was a 6 speed manual.

couple things i have noticed so far.

the camaro power is More obvious when driving and is a more "in your face" type of power. the Mustang seems extremely docile and mild and gives no indication of the kind of power lurking. i was beginning to think that maybe the Camaro was way faster and that all the stuff i had read about the mustang was hype. i learned different at the track.

the Camaro feels more stable when cornering yet likes to dart around on rougher roads where trucks have made grooves. the mustang is more nimble yet very stable on roads that the Camaro darted around on. Camaro brakes are far better but my mustang does not have the Brembo brakes.

the Boston accoustic sound system puts the shaker 500 system to shame.
the Mustang limited slip seems tighter than the camaro limited slip, the automatic transmission in the mustang is a bit awkward on the street as it has a hesitation when you step on the pedal before it downshifts. however at the track it performs flawlessly, i dont know how the Camaro Automatic compares but i imagine GM dialed it in a bit better since i dont recall my buddy complaining about the shifting on his auto equipped SS Camaro. overall the Camaro seems to have better features and options.

these are my time slips for yesterday on my first and second pass in the mustang. completely bone stock with out so much as an air adjustment in the tires. left in in drive with Traction control on and left off idle at the line.

bowtie628 · 03-20-2011, 02:18 PM

i think both cars are great, the v6 and v8 are impressive and great looking..

Ghost1LE · 03-20-2011, 02:27 PM

Glad to see a nice honest review without bias. I think they're both great cars and if the camaro never came out in 2009 I would be a mustang owner. I really don't know why everyone here hates mustangs and I think it's a little childish but I love my camaro and have no regrets!

*mlee* · 03-20-2011, 02:34 PM

Thanks for checking back in with some solid time slips... Enjoy modding your new ride...

20Camaro11 · 03-20-2011, 02:52 PM

Nice write-up, thanks. I too noticed on my Fords, not just My 2001 Mustang, that there is a very noticeable delay in the tranmission downshift (especially if you manually push the auto-tran down a gear). I find it interesting that the Camaro feels chattery on uneven pavement with IRS and the Mustang does not with the solid rear. Took my Camaro out this weekend and burned through a tank of gas...in the "Look at me" dept, Camaro win hands down...everytime.

HeaterMan · 03-20-2011, 04:00 PM

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in the "Look at me" dept, Camaro win hands down...everytime

i got much more attention and head turning with the Camaro than i do with the Mustang.

2010SLVRBULIT · 03-20-2011, 04:15 PM

was your Camaro modded in any way?

Cristoff · 03-20-2011, 04:16 PM

I think many people "misread" your approach on the last thread, which caused some of the poor comments.

It's nice to see that it didn't drive you away and thanks for the objective write up!

HeaterMan · 03-20-2011, 04:36 PM

my Camaro was bone stock. i have attached the time slips for the camaro. in all fairness it was july when i ran the camaro and i had trouble launching without wheel hopping or going up in smoke.

BigDan · 03-20-2011, 08:12 PM

I know what you mean about it doesn't feel as fast and as raw as other cars like the SS and my GT500. I drove my buddys 5.0L and I didn't feel the pull that one usually feels when flying through the gears even though we hit triple digits in no time. It doesn't feel domestic in stock form to me, but all of that can change with a few aftermarket parts.

thePill · 03-20-2011, 08:42 PM

Most 5.0 guys love the automatic even with the 3.15 final gear ratio. You will be very happy when/if you do a final gear ratio swap. The automatic transmission is the 6R80 Ford/Livonia and has a steep 1st gear ratio of 4.17. You will notice a power increase and the transmission will get a crisper beyond 1500 miles as the engine and transmission get broke in.

I hope you enjoy your 5.0, thank god you stayed with an American company. I would love to see pic's and keep me in the loop as you start modding the car.

zero · 03-20-2011, 10:04 PM

very nice, I like hearing from people who had both, it adds alot more. The auto 5.0 is no slouch judging from the numbers. I heard a tune turns them into an animal.

Black5thgen · 03-20-2011, 10:14 PM

Shit, the 5.0 is 7/10 faster. I think I'll trade in too.

HeaterMan · 03-20-2011, 10:42 PM

i honestly think that with a set of drag radials and no other changes i could get down to the 12.50 range. it spins that much out of the hole.

03-20-2011, 02:07 PM	#1
HeaterMan Drives: 2018 PP GT Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: PNW Posts: 264	It's been a week since the trade... initial thoughts Been a week since i traded in the Camaro on a Mustang 5.0, got lots of hatefull comments on that but also lots of positive feedback from people. anyhow I thought some of you might like to hear my initial impressions about the differences in the two models. please leave your childish comments out of this thread. I liked my Camaro and will own another. I am the type of guy that buys a new car every year and if i bought the same car every year i wouldnt know what anything else is like. THIS IS NOT A CAMARO VS MUSTANG THREAD keep in mind that the mustang is an automatic and my Camaro SS was a 6 speed manual. couple things i have noticed so far. the camaro power is More obvious when driving and is a more "in your face" type of power. the Mustang seems extremely docile and mild and gives no indication of the kind of power lurking. i was beginning to think that maybe the Camaro was way faster and that all the stuff i had read about the mustang was hype. i learned different at the track. the Camaro feels more stable when cornering yet likes to dart around on rougher roads where trucks have made grooves. the mustang is more nimble yet very stable on roads that the Camaro darted around on. Camaro brakes are far better but my mustang does not have the Brembo brakes. the Boston accoustic sound system puts the shaker 500 system to shame. the Mustang limited slip seems tighter than the camaro limited slip, the automatic transmission in the mustang is a bit awkward on the street as it has a hesitation when you step on the pedal before it downshifts. however at the track it performs flawlessly, i dont know how the Camaro Automatic compares but i imagine GM dialed it in a bit better since i dont recall my buddy complaining about the shifting on his auto equipped SS Camaro. overall the Camaro seems to have better features and options. these are my time slips for yesterday on my first and second pass in the mustang. completely bone stock with out so much as an air adjustment in the tires. left in in drive with Traction control on and left off idle at the line.

03-20-2011, 02:18 PM	#2
bowtie628 Auto body and paint guy Drives: 2010 Camaro LS Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 815	i think both cars are great, the v6 and v8 are impressive and great looking.. __________________

03-20-2011, 02:27 PM	#3
Ghost1LE Drives: 2013 AGM 2SS/RS 1LE Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Gainesville, FL Posts: 924	Glad to see a nice honest review without bias. I think they're both great cars and if the camaro never came out in 2009 I would be a mustang owner. I really don't know why everyone here hates mustangs and I think it's a little childish but I love my camaro and have no regrets! __________________

03-20-2011, 02:34 PM	#4
mlee CamaroFans.com Drives: ZLE & ZR2 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Conroe, TX Posts: 37,486 View My Garage	Thanks for checking back in with some solid time slips... Enjoy modding your new ride... __________________

03-20-2011, 04:16 PM	#8
Cristoff Drives: 2011 Camaro 2LT RS in Red Jewel Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 463 View My Garage	I think many people "misread" your approach on the last thread, which caused some of the poor comments. It's nice to see that it didn't drive you away and thanks for the objective write up! __________________ Yes, this is my Camaro parked in front of the Infiniti Dealership that I run. No, my boss is not happy...

03-20-2011, 02:52 PM	#5
20Camaro11 Drives: SS Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: not here Posts: 655	Nice write-up, thanks. I too noticed on my Fords, not just My 2001 Mustang, that there is a very noticeable delay in the tranmission downshift (especially if you manually push the auto-tran down a gear). I find it interesting that the Camaro feels chattery on uneven pavement with IRS and the Mustang does not with the solid rear. Took my Camaro out this weekend and burned through a tank of gas...in the "Look at me" dept, Camaro win hands down...everytime.

03-20-2011, 04:15 PM	#7
2010SLVRBULIT Drives: G5(LLT) & C6(LS3) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: MARS Posts: 7,527 View My Garage	was your Camaro modded in any way?

03-20-2011, 04:36 PM	#9
HeaterMan Drives: 2018 PP GT Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: PNW Posts: 264	my Camaro was bone stock. i have attached the time slips for the camaro. in all fairness it was july when i ran the camaro and i had trouble launching without wheel hopping or going up in smoke. __________________ 1966 Buick GS 2018 PP1 A10 Mustang GT 2016 Scat Pack Challenger (gone 1-6-2018) 2013 Mustang GT Auto(sold) 2013 Track pack Mustang 5.0 (sold) 2011 Mustang 5.0 (sold) 2010 Camaro SS 6M ( sold)13.36 @109

03-20-2011, 08:12 PM	#10
BigDan Drives: bug Join Date: May 2009 Location: nv Posts: 1,319	I know what you mean about it doesn't feel as fast and as raw as other cars like the SS and my GT500. I drove my buddys 5.0L and I didn't feel the pull that one usually feels when flying through the gears even though we hit triple digits in no time. It doesn't feel domestic in stock form to me, but all of that can change with a few aftermarket parts.

03-20-2011, 08:42 PM	#11
thePill Account Suspended Drives: '11 Mustang GT Premium Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Kaiserslauthern, Germany Posts: 1,268	Most 5.0 guys love the automatic even with the 3.15 final gear ratio. You will be very happy when/if you do a final gear ratio swap. The automatic transmission is the 6R80 Ford/Livonia and has a steep 1st gear ratio of 4.17. You will notice a power increase and the transmission will get a crisper beyond 1500 miles as the engine and transmission get broke in. I hope you enjoy your 5.0, thank god you stayed with an American company. I would love to see pic's and keep me in the loop as you start modding the car.

03-20-2011, 10:04 PM	#12
zero Drives: Black 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 265	very nice, I like hearing from people who had both, it adds alot more. The auto 5.0 is no slouch judging from the numbers. I heard a tune turns them into an animal.

03-20-2011, 10:14 PM	#13
Black5thgen Account Suspended Drives: 2007 C6 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: chicago Posts: 2,251 View My Garage	Shit, the 5.0 is 7/10 faster. I think I'll trade in too.

03-20-2011, 10:42 PM	#14
HeaterMan Drives: 2018 PP GT Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: PNW Posts: 264	i honestly think that with a set of drag radials and no other changes i could get down to the 12.50 range. it spins that much out of the hole. __________________ 1966 Buick GS 2018 PP1 A10 Mustang GT 2016 Scat Pack Challenger (gone 1-6-2018) 2013 Mustang GT Auto(sold) 2013 Track pack Mustang 5.0 (sold) 2011 Mustang 5.0 (sold) 2010 Camaro SS 6M ( sold)13.36 @109

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