Are canned tunes safe? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

blufin · 11-13-2011, 07:49 PM

If the ZL1 is priced outta my reach, I'll be looking to supercharge my SS. A couple of the SC companies provide a "canned" tune on a handheld programmer and I'm wondering if they are any good/safe. I assume the manufacturer intends it to only be used if there are no other mods, and I'm ok with that.
Obviously a dyne tune would be optimal, but are the canned tunes safe?

The Stig · 11-13-2011, 07:55 PM

yes the "canned" supercharger tune is safe, but you are not getting the most out of your blower. You would need a dyno tune to get the most out of it while still being safe.

boostedyards86 · 11-13-2011, 08:06 PM

Honestly it depends on what company you go with. Some canned tunes are safe, others are not so safe imo.

Slowhawk · 11-13-2011, 08:07 PM

I would say - Maybe.

I've seen good and bad canned tunes with supercharger systems. Always best to have it checked out.

jasycz28 · 11-13-2011, 10:05 PM

I would not recommend taking the whipple canned tune into higher RPM's. On the dyno I was pinging with 100 octance. I got a Custom tune that had less timing in it than whipples canned tune and I made 40 more HP.

zebra · 11-13-2011, 10:15 PM

like others have said - it kinda depends on the company. just remember, companies make these tunes for cars with no other power mods, so if you have an intake or headers, it's going to be seriously lacking. they also write them conservatively so as to have the least number of warranty issues.

blufin · 11-13-2011, 10:50 PM

Maggies? Anyone?

zebra · 11-13-2011, 10:53 PM

can't help ya there... all the Magnuson cars i know have full exhaust & dyno tunes

8cd03gro · 11-13-2011, 11:38 PM

If you're going to spend thousands of dollars on a supercharger kit, do it right the first time and get a dyno tune from a pro for another few hundred bucks.

grocerygetter · 11-14-2011, 09:15 AM

If the issue is that you don't have a shop near you that you want to use or just want to wrench on it yourself...I would buy from Janetty. He sells a lot of different brands of SC that come with tunes and he can make sure the tune is 'right'.

Stingr69 · 11-14-2011, 09:26 AM

I bought the E-force from Janetty Racing and did my own install. That superchager kit comes with the SCT hand held already loaded with the Edelbrock canned tune. I ran that canned tune for a few days and it was definately too "safe". I was not at all happy with the way it ran. Janetty then provided me with a safe custom tune via email (no extra cost) and I liked that much better. Once we recorded a few log files on my laptop using the supplied SCT device, Ted made some little tweaks to the custom tune. MUCH happier with the custom tune and it did not cost any extra.

Hope this helps,

-Mark.

blufin · 11-14-2011, 11:28 AM

Thanks for the input everyone.

grocerygetter · 11-14-2011, 11:37 AM

That's the same way my Vortech went down with Ted...we did the install, loaded Vortech's tune via the SCT (which wasn't that bad really), then datalogged and worked with Ted for a much stronger tune.

JANNETTYRACING · 11-14-2011, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blufin

If the ZL1 is priced outta my reach, I'll be looking to supercharge my SS. A couple of the SC companies provide a "canned" tune on a handheld programmer and I'm wondering if they are any good/safe. I assume the manufacturer intends it to only be used if there are no other mods, and I'm ok with that.
Obviously a dyne tune would be optimal, but are the canned tunes safe?

Thanks for the Props Guys, The Supercharger Canned tunes are Safe almost to the point of being Lame.

Ted.

11-13-2011, 07:49 PM	#1
blufin Drives: Fire Engine Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: WPB, Florida Posts: 1,415	Are canned tunes safe? If the ZL1 is priced outta my reach, I'll be looking to supercharge my SS. A couple of the SC companies provide a "canned" tune on a handheld programmer and I'm wondering if they are any good/safe. I assume the manufacturer intends it to only be used if there are no other mods, and I'm ok with that. Obviously a dyne tune would be optimal, but are the canned tunes safe? __________________ 12.618 @ 110.75 Bone Stock 1/4 mile 8.165 @ 86.52 Bone Stock 1/8 mile 11.189 @ 124.44 on a 1.73 60' TVS2300 3.4 pulley, JRE tuned, Kooks LT headers and HF cats, MBRP catback exhaust, CAI intake, ADM scoop. Stock wheels/tires. Sold

11-13-2011, 07:55 PM	#2
The Stig knows 2 facts about ducks Drives: ...and they're both wrong Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The HMS Invincible Posts: 25,072 View My Garage	yes the "canned" supercharger tune is safe, but you are not getting the most out of your blower. You would need a dyno tune to get the most out of it while still being safe. __________________

11-13-2011, 08:06 PM	#3
boostedyards86 Drives: Cummins 3500 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pgh PA Posts: 611 View My Garage	Honestly it depends on what company you go with. Some canned tunes are safe, others are not so safe imo. __________________ 85 Buick TType - 5.3l GT4202r 10.86 at 126

11-13-2011, 10:05 PM	#5
jasycz28 J.Sick Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Ardmore, OK Posts: 958	I would not recommend taking the whipple canned tune into higher RPM's. On the dyno I was pinging with 100 octance. I got a Custom tune that had less timing in it than whipples canned tune and I made 40 more HP. __________________ "J.Sick" 2010 Camaro 2SS

11-13-2011, 10:15 PM	#6
zebra just can't seem to leave Drives: your mom wild!! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: cold & windy Posts: 10,625 View My Garage	like others have said - it kinda depends on the company. just remember, companies make these tunes for cars with no other power mods, so if you have an intake or headers, it's going to be seriously lacking. they also write them conservatively so as to have the least number of warranty issues. __________________ Eve ('00 FRC): hot-air intake Rowan ('09 H3): 5spd mom-mobile Penny ('99 Sierra): 5.3 / HD 5spd... gone but not forgotten Samson ('18 HD): compounded 408

11-13-2011, 08:07 PM	#4
Slowhawk Drives: 1999 Trans Am Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bridgewater,Ma Posts: 2,017	I would say - Maybe. I've seen good and bad canned tunes with supercharger systems. Always best to have it checked out.

11-13-2011, 10:50 PM	#7
blufin Drives: Fire Engine Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: WPB, Florida Posts: 1,415	Maggies? Anyone? __________________ 12.618 @ 110.75 Bone Stock 1/4 mile 8.165 @ 86.52 Bone Stock 1/8 mile 11.189 @ 124.44 on a 1.73 60' TVS2300 3.4 pulley, JRE tuned, Kooks LT headers and HF cats, MBRP catback exhaust, CAI intake, ADM scoop. Stock wheels/tires. Sold

11-13-2011, 10:53 PM	#8
zebra just can't seem to leave Drives: your mom wild!! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: cold & windy Posts: 10,625 View My Garage	can't help ya there... all the Magnuson cars i know have full exhaust & dyno tunes __________________ Eve ('00 FRC): hot-air intake Rowan ('09 H3): 5spd mom-mobile Penny ('99 Sierra): 5.3 / HD 5spd... gone but not forgotten Samson ('18 HD): compounded 408

11-13-2011, 11:38 PM	#9
8cd03gro Drives: 2005 STi corn fed Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,997	If you're going to spend thousands of dollars on a supercharger kit, do it right the first time and get a dyno tune from a pro for another few hundred bucks.

11-14-2011, 09:15 AM	#10
grocerygetter instigator Drives: 2020 6.2 Trail Boss, 2022 XC90 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: 72034 Posts: 3,979 View My Garage	If the issue is that you don't have a shop near you that you want to use or just want to wrench on it yourself...I would buy from Janetty. He sells a lot of different brands of SC that come with tunes and he can make sure the tune is 'right'. __________________ -John S.

11-14-2011, 09:26 AM	#11
Stingr69 '69 Owned Since '79 Drives: '69 Z/28 LeMans Blue w/White Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: LR AR Posts: 1,847 View My Garage	I bought the E-force from Janetty Racing and did my own install. That superchager kit comes with the SCT hand held already loaded with the Edelbrock canned tune. I ran that canned tune for a few days and it was definately too "safe". I was not at all happy with the way it ran. Janetty then provided me with a safe custom tune via email (no extra cost) and I liked that much better. Once we recorded a few log files on my laptop using the supplied SCT device, Ted made some little tweaks to the custom tune. MUCH happier with the custom tune and it did not cost any extra. Hope this helps, -Mark.

11-14-2011, 11:28 AM	#12
blufin Drives: Fire Engine Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: WPB, Florida Posts: 1,415	Thanks for the input everyone. __________________ 12.618 @ 110.75 Bone Stock 1/4 mile 8.165 @ 86.52 Bone Stock 1/8 mile 11.189 @ 124.44 on a 1.73 60' TVS2300 3.4 pulley, JRE tuned, Kooks LT headers and HF cats, MBRP catback exhaust, CAI intake, ADM scoop. Stock wheels/tires. Sold

11-14-2011, 11:37 AM	#13
grocerygetter instigator Drives: 2020 6.2 Trail Boss, 2022 XC90 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: 72034 Posts: 3,979 View My Garage	That's the same way my Vortech went down with Ted...we did the install, loaded Vortech's tune via the SCT (which wasn't that bad really), then datalogged and worked with Ted for a much stronger tune. __________________ -John S.

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