Muscle car? Sure. Exotic? Sure. Sports car? Sure. Economy car? Sure.

[Scalded Dog]

“It’s not technically a muscle car…” - -Spoken by who? There’s no governing authority that rules colloquial, casual conversation. In the term “muscle car,” the word “muscle” is an adjective: It describes the noun. And, it’s a subjective, non- absolute adjective… sort of like the words “awesome,” “fast,” “cool,” or “green.” Each of those is subject to the speaker’s perception and definition, and is dependent on the listener’s understanding. If somebody claims that a given car is “awesome,” some will agree, some will disagree… but nobody can say, “Well, technically it is not considered to be ‘awesome,’ the actual definition of ‘awesome’ does not allow for that…” Or “green:” depends on shades and lighting, whatever… some may agree, but a few may say, “It looks more bluish to me… or grayish…” or whatever. Very few adjectives are absolute, solid… or enforceable, for the love of Pete.- - Even words like “coupe” vs. “sedan” are subjective… many think that “coupe” means it’s got two doors…. But many auto manufacturers claim to offer “Four- door coupes.” Sports car? Define THAT! I recently drove a Nissan that is factory stickered as a “Four- door sports coupe.” I didn’t feel like it was a “sports car,” but definitions vary wildly. Some people say a Tercel is a sports car, while others mock Aston Martins as not “real” sports cars… but, until the police start issuing citations, anybody still gets to call any car whatever they feel like calling it. - -Sure, there may be those who have taken a stab at defining what a muscle car is, or isn’t: But, just because it’s written somewhere, or even if it’s on the Internet (!) does not mean that the “real” definition of what makes a muscle car is legit. I can write anything I want to, get it published in a book or magazine, it doesn’t mean that it’s gospel, truth, or even rational. I can put it on the Internet, and still doesn’t have any real meaning, even if I AM a French model.- - Of course, one loses credibility when mislabeling a car to the point that more people disagree with the speaker’s definition: If I tried to pass off my Tercel as an exotic, 98% of listeners would think I was taking some pretty big liberties with the term. However, if I try to tell people that my Camaro is an exotic, only about 85% of listeners would think I was goofy. If I call it a muscle car, only 10% will disagree. But, that does not mean that it is, or isn’t… there’s no “technically, it isn’t…” or “Actually, a true muscle car is… “ about it. - -I can drive down my street, and tell you that, on my block, my 1LT is the most muscley car to be found. Hell, my Camaro IS an exotic… it traveled from outer space, and turns into a giant powerful robot when needed. Cars don’t get much more exotic than that. It’s a sports car, as its handling is far superior to 95% of the cars that share my commute. It’s an economy car: I get very good mileage out of it, especially compared to my Silverado or my Suburban. - -So, yeah… until there’s some empirical definition of muscle car, in MY book, Camaros, Challengers, Mustangs, and a few others are damn muscle cars. But… that’s in MY book, so everybody else can go pound sand!

[nyrfan]

ok! And very hard to read.

[K32 Camaro]

Originally Posted by nyrfan

ok!

+1

[E.T.]

Originally Posted by Scalded Dog

“It’s not technically a muscle car…” - -Spoken by who? There’s no governing authority that rules colloquial, casual conversation. In the term “muscle car,” the word “muscle” is an adjective: It describes the noun. And, it’s a subjective, non- absolute adjective… sort of like the words “awesome,” “fast,” “cool,” or “green.”

Each of those is subject to the speaker’s perception and definition, and is dependent on the listener’s understanding. If somebody claims that a given car is “awesome,” some will agree, some will disagree… but nobody can say, “Well, technically it is not considered to be ‘awesome,’ the actual definition of ‘awesome’ does not allow for that…” Or “green:” depends on shades and lighting, whatever… some may agree, but a few may say, “It looks more bluish to me… or grayish…” or whatever.

Very few adjectives are absolute, solid… or enforceable, for the love of Pete.- - Even words like “coupe” vs. “sedan” are subjective… many think that “coupe” means it’s got two doors…. But many auto manufacturers claim to offer “Four- door coupes.” Sports car? Define THAT! I recently drove a Nissan that is factory stickered as a “Four- door sports coupe.” I didn’t feel like it was a “sports car,” but definitions vary wildly. Some people say a Tercel is a sports car, while others mock Aston Martins as not “real” sports cars… but, until the police start issuing citations, anybody still gets to call any car whatever they feel like calling it. - -Sure, there may be those who have taken a stab at defining what a muscle car is, or isn’t: But, just because it’s written somewhere, or even if it’s on the Internet (!) does not mean that the “real” definition of what makes a muscle car is legit.

I can write anything I want to, get it published in a book or magazine, it doesn’t mean that it’s gospel, truth, or even rational. I can put it on the Internet, and still doesn’t have any real meaning, even if I AM a French model.- - Of course, one loses credibility when mislabeling a car to the point that more people disagree with the speaker’s definition: If I tried to pass off my Tercel as an exotic, 98% of listeners would think I was taking some pretty big liberties with the term. However, if I try to tell people that my Camaro is an exotic, only about 85% of listeners would think I was goofy. If I call it a muscle car, only 10% will disagree. But, that does not mean that it is, or isn’t… there’s no “technically, it isn’t…” or “Actually, a true muscle car is… “ about it. - -I can drive down my street, and tell you that, on my block, my 1LT is the most muscley car to be found.

Hell, my Camaro IS an exotic… it traveled from outer space, and turns into a giant powerful robot when needed. Cars don’t get much more exotic than that. It’s a sports car, as its handling is far superior to 95% of the cars that share my commute. It’s an economy car: I get very good mileage out of it, especially compared to my Silverado or my Suburban.

- -So, yeah… until there’s some empirical definition of muscle car, in MY book, Camaros, Challengers, Mustangs, and a few others are damn muscle cars. But… that’s in MY book, so everybody else can go pound sand!

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[ibeck]

wut

[SlingShot]

Farout dude !!! That was deep ... Time to twist up another ...

[BowtieBelle]

Originally Posted by E.T.

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Originally Posted by ibeck

wut

Amen, tl;dr?

[Jose]

"To be, or not to be, that is the question.........." Ok, I need a map.............

[nyrfan]

Originally Posted by E.T.

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Better but I still say ok

[Scalded Dog]

Originally Posted by E.T.

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HA! Yeah, something's real goofy on my computer. Of course, I am on my WORK computer, and my unreasonable employer expects me to be doing that pesky "work" while I'm on the clock, so there's a Barracuda Block on here, which won't allow me to FO all day on C5. So... I gotta use this shady porthole to sneak into C5, and when I do, the text app. CHOOSES where my paragraph divisions will be, and randomly inserts or deletes puntuation marks, spaces, and even letters. It's tricky.... but at least I can still put a bunch of words on there and hope that they can be deciphered. I just can't make any paragraph divisions that make sense.

[squat]

Originally Posted by Scalded Dog

HA! Yeah, something's real goofy on my computer. Of course, I am on my WORK computer, and my unreasonable employer expects me to be doing that pesky "work" while I'm on the clock, so there's a Barracuda Block on here, which won't allow me to FO all day on C5. So... I gotta use this shady porthole to sneak into C5, and when I do, the text app. CHOOSES where my paragraph divisions will be, and randomly inserts or deletes puntuation marks, spaces, and even letters. It's tricky.... but at least I can still put a bunch of words on there and hope that they can be deciphered. I just can't make any paragraph divisions that make sense.

What's the tl;dr of your giant wall of text so that I might comment on your comment.

[RADREVX]

sounds like someone should of bought the v8 lol

[tonyko1]

Originally Posted by RADREVX

sounds like someone should of bought the v8 lol

, that is cruel and cold around these parts. Thanks.

[RADREVX]

i couldnt resist, sorry ;-) im going to hell for that one.