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Nailn it · 11-07-2012, 06:27 AM

[QUOTE=2010 SSRS;5781280]best break in out there

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I broke mine in like I'm going to drive it. One of the most important things we want to do with these performance engines, is to properly Seat the rings. I took my advice from engine builders, I ran it pretty hard and did some hard up shifts and some hard downshifts and ran it through 2 full heat cycles. Never keeping it at the same RPM for long. That being done I have some properly seated rings. The rest of the drivetrain I used common sense. You only get one shot to seat the rings. It was very important for me to do this properly, knowing I was going to put more horsepower to the rear wheels later. Now it has 704 rwp and I don't have a warranty anyway. In my own opinion properly seated rings came first. Obviously, GM engineers know more about the total car than we do. I have a feeling that suggested break in, has more to do with the total drivetrain package. I personally, didn't want to car that uses oil. Superchargers are not a big fan of oil vapor.

Nailn it · 11-07-2012, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by dmax86

oh ya i did! lol i break it in like i drive it.

Me too! Dude, your car is going to be fine. Today's engine clearances are so close that these things are actually broken in after two heat cycles. By the way, pretty decent numbers.

sloSS · 11-07-2012, 06:51 AM

Your ZL1 dyno run finished so quickly!
Watch my SS for contrast in run time
The extra 146 HP makes a difference!

Nailn it · 11-07-2012, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by sloSS

Your ZL1 dyno run finished so quickly!
Watch my SS for contrast in run time
The extra 146 HP makes a difference!

Here's mine @ 706 rwp.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdadja9foT0&sns=em
This is a link off my tuner "Mayhem Motorsports" works better than my photobucket.

dmax86 · 11-07-2012, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by sloSS

Your ZL1 dyno run finished so quickly!
Watch my SS for contrast in run time
The extra 146 HP makes a difference!

Yep! Extra HP and a 3.73.

SC2150 · 11-07-2012, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 67motorcat

So much for the rings getting a chance to seat...

Best way to seat the rings is hard in the first 3-500 miles. After 500 miles odds are the cylinders have formed a hard glaze and the seating window is gone. Babying these for 1500 miles pretty much assures you will have oil consumption issues for life. The owners manual is NOT written by the engineers that know but marketing, legal, and accounting.

Been building motors for over 38 years and it is even more critical now with these motors coming pre-filled with full syn oil.

VegasZL1 · 11-07-2012, 08:53 AM

A friend of mine bought a new Honda Accord in 1993 and drove it like a bat out of hell on the way home (Oregon country roads, about 40 miles).

To date the car has over 500,000 - yes, five hundred thousand - miles on the engine and it is still going.

Good maintenance is key.

OP - Nice stock numbers. Glad you drive your car like you want to.

*radz28* · 11-07-2012, 09:48 AM

Great numbers

JFWJR179 · 11-07-2012, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by dmax86

oh ya i did! lol i break it in like i drive it.

524 RWHP is very stout.

But: I ain't gonna rev mine up that high until 1500 mile break in.

I'm just saying...

dmax86 · 11-07-2012, 11:13 AM

Thanks guys.

I was a little surprised how much it put down. I know every dyno is different but I also know that dynocom themselves came down and set the calibrations to ensure accuracy. It's also been dead on or a few ponies off a couple other dyno's nearby. So I really feel like its a reliable number.

I think for now once I recuperate... I'll do LT's with high flow cats and a CAI.

Any suggestions on the CAI?

Also... I have been looking to see a video clip of a zl1 with LT's to get an idea of the sound.

Garret · 11-07-2012, 11:22 AM

Well a dealership I went to to test drive a camaro the salesperson insisted he drove to this secluded industrial park where I could drive I am almost positive that he took it over 4k RPM's on the way to the industrial park where he insisted I practically go for record 1/4 mile times or something lol so for a lot of you break-in time fanatics i hope you ordered your Camaro or bought the one in the back of the lot with plastic on the seats with 2 miles logged etc... mine was supposed to have a few unwanted dealer installed options i told them to not do and give it to me that much cheaper.

sportyb24 · 11-07-2012, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by dmax86

Thanks guys.

I was a little surprised how much it put down. I know every dyno is different but I also know that dynocom themselves came down and set the calibrations to ensure accuracy. It's also been dead on or a few ponies off a couple other dyno's nearby. So I really feel like its a reliable number.

I think for now once I recuperate... I'll do LT's with high flow cats and a CAI.

Any suggestions on the CAI?

Also... I have been looking to see a video clip of a zl1 with LT's to get an idea of the sound.

In goin say Roto-fab seems line the way to go for now since that's all I'm doin for now..

Garret · 11-07-2012, 11:38 AM

where can u take your car to get the dyno numbers or what have you? I'm just outside austin tx so..

dmax86 · 11-07-2012, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Garret

where can u take your car to get the dyno numbers or what have you? I'm just outside austin tx so..

There are many places in Texas. I took my car to a place near Sugarland, TX. Like 10 min from downtown Houston. If you come anywhere near Houston you'll find a lot of shops with dynos. I can see about getting you a deal. The guys are my friends and I worked there for 2 years.

PM me if your interested.

11-07-2012, 09:48 AM	#36
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,198 View My Garage	Great numbers __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

11-07-2012, 11:13 AM	#38
dmax86 Drives: 2016 Z06 C7R Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: HOUSTON, TEXAS Posts: 1,019 View My Garage	Thanks guys. I was a little surprised how much it put down. I know every dyno is different but I also know that dynocom themselves came down and set the calibrations to ensure accuracy. It's also been dead on or a few ponies off a couple other dyno's nearby. So I really feel like its a reliable number. I think for now once I recuperate... I'll do LT's with high flow cats and a CAI. Any suggestions on the CAI? Also... I have been looking to see a video clip of a zl1 with LT's to get an idea of the sound. __________________ 2013 ZL1 BONE STOCK! LOL

11-07-2012, 06:27 AM	#29
Nailn it Drives: 2013 ZL1 Ashen Gray / Manual Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 208	[QUOTE=2010 SSRS;5781280]best break in out there [/QUOTE I broke mine in like I'm going to drive it. One of the most important things we want to do with these performance engines, is to properly Seat the rings. I took my advice from engine builders, I ran it pretty hard and did some hard up shifts and some hard downshifts and ran it through 2 full heat cycles. Never keeping it at the same RPM for long. That being done I have some properly seated rings. The rest of the drivetrain I used common sense. You only get one shot to seat the rings. It was very important for me to do this properly, knowing I was going to put more horsepower to the rear wheels later. Now it has 704 rwp and I don't have a warranty anyway. In my own opinion properly seated rings came first. Obviously, GM engineers know more about the total car than we do. I have a feeling that suggested break in, has more to do with the total drivetrain package. I personally, didn't want to car that uses oil. Superchargers are not a big fan of oil vapor.

11-07-2012, 08:53 AM	#35
VegasZL1 Drives: 2015 Z/28 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 137 View My Garage	A friend of mine bought a new Honda Accord in 1993 and drove it like a bat out of hell on the way home (Oregon country roads, about 40 miles). To date the car has over 500,000 - yes, five hundred thousand - miles on the engine and it is still going. Good maintenance is key. OP - Nice stock numbers. Glad you drive your car like you want to.

11-07-2012, 11:22 AM	#39
Garret Drives: 2013 2SS/RS Victory Red Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Bastrop Tx Posts: 443	Well a dealership I went to to test drive a camaro the salesperson insisted he drove to this secluded industrial park where I could drive I am almost positive that he took it over 4k RPM's on the way to the industrial park where he insisted I practically go for record 1/4 mile times or something lol so for a lot of you break-in time fanatics i hope you ordered your Camaro or bought the one in the back of the lot with plastic on the seats with 2 miles logged etc... mine was supposed to have a few unwanted dealer installed options i told them to not do and give it to me that much cheaper.

11-07-2012, 11:38 AM	#41
Garret Drives: 2013 2SS/RS Victory Red Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Bastrop Tx Posts: 443	where can u take your car to get the dyno numbers or what have you? I'm just outside austin tx so..