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huitt06 · 12-04-2012, 06:51 AM

What's pro's and cons when doing a cam. Is one harder to do ...cheaper?

thahemp · 12-04-2012, 08:24 AM

You should check out this thread. It has a little bit of what you're looking for.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=257819

VVT should make more power throughout the RPM band, but you might have a hard time finding a shop that can tune it properly. I'm sure there are much more knowledgeable people here when it comes to the L99 VVT setup. Mine's an LS3.

VADER SS L99 · 12-04-2012, 10:23 AM

Tell us which shop you plan to use for tuning and or install and I can tell you what type of cam to use. Also if you plan to go FI in the future I wouldnt trust the VVT. I see your in TX. Just do yourself a favor and call Andy at ADM. Great guy and shop. They will make you very happy. I am sure he will advise to delete the VVT/DOD. If you just have to use VVT then Texas Speed is also in your neck of the woods.

Lonnie@Texas-Speed · 12-04-2012, 11:16 AM

Keep the VVT, ditch the AFM! The only people who will advise you to delete VVT are those who have not tested it and fitured it out yet to see the potential...true story!

SPCBA · 12-04-2012, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by thahemp

You should check out this thread. It has a little bit of what you're looking for.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=257819

VVT should make more power throughout the RPM band, but you might have a hard time finding a shop that can tune it properly. I'm sure there are much more knowledgeable people here when it comes to the L99 VVT setup. Mine's an LS3.

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Originally Posted by Matt@Texas-Speed

Keep the VVT, ditch the AFM! The only people who will advise you to delete VVT are those who have not tested it and fitured it out yet to see the potential...true story!

These guys are steering you in a direction I agree with wholeheartedly. It is hard to find a shop that can tune VVT effectively. The usable power across the entire power band is something that is hard to replicate on a NA LS3.

The only reason I would want to ditch the VVT is if I wanted a really aggressive cam.

huitt06 · 12-04-2012, 12:52 PM

Not sure on shop...some people in my area use a shop called Graham racing for install..I'm currently tuned by Ted and love it...leaning towards vvt delete ....what cam suggested for a street car

SPCBA · 12-04-2012, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by huitt06

Not sure on shop...some people in my area use a shop called Graham racing for install..I'm currently tuned by Ted and love it...leaning towards vvt delete ....what cam suggested for a street car

I would suggest talking to a quality shop and getting something tailored to exactly what you want/expect out of your car. One guys cam choice and idea of street car can be drastically different from yours.

huitt06 · 12-04-2012, 12:59 PM

This is a daily driver....also not looking to spend 5g's....want a reasonable priced package...

thahemp · 12-04-2012, 01:03 PM

You should definitely talk to your shop, but you could also post a detailed description of what you're looking for right here and we can try to guide you in the right direction. These guys love talking about engines

Rhino79 · 12-04-2012, 01:47 PM

Keep the vvt.

Synyster · 12-04-2012, 04:46 PM

You'll likely end up spending the same amount either way you go. Keep the VVT. You're in Texas, go drop Texas Speed a line.

thahemp · 12-04-2012, 05:28 PM

I would think he would save quite a bit by sticking with VVT. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he wouldn't have to buy the LS3 converstion kit and wouldn't have to remove the heads to swap out the lifters. That ought to save a ton of time and money.

CFD · 12-04-2012, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by thahemp

I would think he would save quite a bit by sticking with VVT. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he wouldn't have to buy the LS3 converstion kit and wouldn't have to remove the heads to swap out the lifters. That ought to save a ton of time and money.

VVT has nothing to do with the lifters, that's AFM

thahemp · 12-04-2012, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CFD

VVT has nothing to do with the lifters, that's AFM

Ah. Thanks. I stand corrected!

12-04-2012, 06:51 AM	#1
huitt06 Drives: 2011 L99 SS Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: West texas Posts: 319 View My Garage	vvt or delete? What's pro's and cons when doing a cam. Is one harder to do ...cheaper? __________________ TSP 1 7/8, CNT catback, VMAX, CAI intake, ADM scoop, 3.70s, Adm Tuned(374/391), SLP UDP, 18" nurbs/NT05r's , 3200 stall, Granatelli trailing arms....1/4 mi best 12.7

12-04-2012, 08:24 AM	#2
thahemp Geek Drives: 2012 Black LS3 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Derby, KS Posts: 4,343 View My Garage	You should check out this thread. It has a little bit of what you're looking for. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=257819 VVT should make more power throughout the RPM band, but you might have a hard time finding a shop that can tune it properly. I'm sure there are much more knowledgeable people here when it comes to the L99 VVT setup. Mine's an LS3. __________________ 01000111011011110110111101100100001000000110110001 11010101100011011010110010000001110111011010010111 01000110100000100000011101000110100001101001011100 110010000001101111011011100110010100100001 x = ac97968bd3df8f968c8cd3df998a9c94d3df9c8a918bd3df9c 909c94df8c8a9c949a8dd3df92908b979a8ddf998a9c949a8d d3df8b968b8cd1 x = ~x

12-04-2012, 10:23 AM	#3
VADER SS L99 Drives: 2013 A6 GT 5.0 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 2,909	Tell us which shop you plan to use for tuning and or install and I can tell you what type of cam to use. Also if you plan to go FI in the future I wouldnt trust the VVT. I see your in TX. Just do yourself a favor and call Andy at ADM. Great guy and shop. They will make you very happy. I am sure he will advise to delete the VVT/DOD. If you just have to use VVT then Texas Speed is also in your neck of the woods. __________________ BLK/BLK 1SS/RS Ordered 11-01-2009 Took delivery 12-22-2009. Heads/cam/converter/bolt ons. SOLD Feb 2015 to fund 6th gen LT1 SS with 8L90E.

12-04-2012, 12:52 PM	#6
huitt06 Drives: 2011 L99 SS Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: West texas Posts: 319 View My Garage	Not sure on shop...some people in my area use a shop called Graham racing for install..I'm currently tuned by Ted and love it...leaning towards vvt delete ....what cam suggested for a street car __________________ TSP 1 7/8, CNT catback, VMAX, CAI intake, ADM scoop, 3.70s, Adm Tuned(374/391), SLP UDP, 18" nurbs/NT05r's , 3200 stall, Granatelli trailing arms....1/4 mi best 12.7

12-04-2012, 12:59 PM	#8
huitt06 Drives: 2011 L99 SS Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: West texas Posts: 319 View My Garage	This is a daily driver....also not looking to spend 5g's....want a reasonable priced package... __________________ TSP 1 7/8, CNT catback, VMAX, CAI intake, ADM scoop, 3.70s, Adm Tuned(374/391), SLP UDP, 18" nurbs/NT05r's , 3200 stall, Granatelli trailing arms....1/4 mi best 12.7

12-04-2012, 11:16 AM	#4
Lonnie@Texas-Speed Drives: 2010 Camaro - BIW Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: TEXAS! Posts: 198	Keep the VVT, ditch the AFM! The only people who will advise you to delete VVT are those who have not tested it and fitured it out yet to see the potential...true story!

12-04-2012, 01:03 PM	#9
thahemp Geek Drives: 2012 Black LS3 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Derby, KS Posts: 4,343 View My Garage	You should definitely talk to your shop, but you could also post a detailed description of what you're looking for right here and we can try to guide you in the right direction. These guys love talking about engines __________________ 01000111011011110110111101100100001000000110110001 11010101100011011010110010000001110111011010010111 01000110100000100000011101000110100001101001011100 110010000001101111011011100110010100100001 x = ac97968bd3df8f968c8cd3df998a9c94d3df9c8a918bd3df9c 909c94df8c8a9c949a8dd3df92908b979a8ddf998a9c949a8d d3df8b968b8cd1 x = ~x

12-04-2012, 01:47 PM	#10
Rhino79 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS L99/Auto Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Cabot, AR Posts: 2,827 View My Garage	Keep the vvt.

12-04-2012, 04:46 PM	#11
Synyster Drives: 2006 F150 Lariat Join Date: May 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 1,665	You'll likely end up spending the same amount either way you go. Keep the VVT. You're in Texas, go drop Texas Speed a line.

12-04-2012, 05:28 PM	#12
thahemp Geek Drives: 2012 Black LS3 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Derby, KS Posts: 4,343 View My Garage	I would think he would save quite a bit by sticking with VVT. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he wouldn't have to buy the LS3 converstion kit and wouldn't have to remove the heads to swap out the lifters. That ought to save a ton of time and money. __________________ 01000111011011110110111101100100001000000110110001 11010101100011011010110010000001110111011010010111 01000110100000100000011101000110100001101001011100 110010000001101111011011100110010100100001 x = ac97968bd3df8f968c8cd3df998a9c94d3df9c8a918bd3df9c 909c94df8c8a9c949a8dd3df92908b979a8ddf998a9c949a8d d3df8b968b8cd1 x = ~x