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1LE Red Dragon · 07-23-2013, 12:16 PM

Has anybody had a bone stock LS3 Camaro with the Eforce kit and had it on the dyno with the tune from Edelbrock? Edelbrock chart shows 599 hp. That for sure is at the crank but don't know what they used for drivetrain efficiency. I have searched but haven't found the answer. Just curious if anyone knows. If nobody knows, in a month I might be able to answer my own question. Ha ha.

Thanks,
Brian

Unreal · 07-23-2013, 12:20 PM

About 500rwhp if I recall correctly.

Smirnoff · 07-24-2013, 07:35 AM

Sounds right.

Unobtainium · 07-24-2013, 08:37 AM

Honestly, it would be my last choice. Just not a very efficient set-up.
They are down on power compared to the competition for sure. Whipple set-up seems like better value, even KB.

1LE Red Dragon · 07-24-2013, 09:08 PM

Looks like about +110 to 120 whp over stock from what I've gathered. I've found an incredible deal on one and with the rebate from Edelbrock its a over a grand cheaper than any other option. Its a full and most comprehensive kit there is and keeps an OEM style appearance and produces the most torque below 4000 rpm and loses just slightly up top. I will probably dyno with only the kit with ZR1 plugs and edelbrock flash. Then probably add the LS9 cam and intake, and 3.25" pulley with a tune. I hope to get the most power possible through the stock exhaust manifold and stock cats and my NPP exhaust. This should make for a real sleeper. I'm hoping I can make 550 whp with that setup. The 1LE car already comes with the ZL1 fuel pump. From what I hear 550 whp is all you can make with the 52# injectors that come with the kit. If that's a problem, I can update those as well.

epstein · 07-25-2013, 11:44 AM

If your getting one Ill give ya some advice before you install,

Make sure it has the upgraded valley plate.

Buy the JRE fuel line upgrade. It will save your back cylinders from fuel starvation.
The Roto Fab is the CAI for you.
JUNK THE CANNED TUNE
If your thinking a smaller pulley its ID 850's
Contact Ted he has great prices and supplies tunes......

As for it not being the best or not efficient.... Like everything else thats opinion based. Same Eaton rotors.... longer runners....depends on your cup of tea, Remember Everyone will tell you the best one out there is the one they BOUGHT. My numbers reflect a Conservative tune with LONGEVITY in mind. (Until I forge that spare motor I have)

If your gonna install yourself Ill be more than happy to assist you should you have any questions . Ive walked a few people through it with additional pictures video calls etc. Hope this helps

Brian

Unreal · 07-25-2013, 12:00 PM

Buy the time you add headers, cai, plugs, tune, etc why not just get a TT kit that makes low end, more torque, and more power? Just call Ted and get a TT kit.

sscamaro · 07-25-2013, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 1LE Red Dragon

Looks like about +110 to 120 whp over stock from what I've gathered. I've found an incredible deal on one and with the rebate from Edelbrock its a over a grand cheaper than any other option. Its a full and most comprehensive kit there is and keeps an OEM style appearance and produces the most torque below 4000 rpm and loses just slightly up top. I will probably dyno with only the kit with ZR1 plugs and edelbrock flash. Then probably add the LS9 cam and intake, and 3.25" pulley with a tune. I hope to get the most power possible through the stock exhaust manifold and stock cats and my NPP exhaust. This should make for a real sleeper. I'm hoping I can make 550 whp with that setup. The 1LE car already comes with the ZL1 fuel pump. From what I hear 550 whp is all you can make with the 52# injectors that come with the kit. If that's a problem, I can update those as well.

Be careful of the EDELBROCK tune. After their tune it was running very lean, but I had LT headers on it berfore the S/C. I have the ZL1 fuel pump, 72# injectors and stock pully. I'm getting 546/rwhp and 520/rwtq.

SSBUSDRVR · 07-25-2013, 01:04 PM

What epstein and sscamaro said.
650's here for over a year and still smiling.

1LE Red Dragon · 07-25-2013, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sscamaro

Be careful of the EDELBROCK tune. After their tune it was running very lean, but I had LT headers on it berfore the S/C. I have the ZL1 fuel pump, 72# injectors and stock pully. I'm getting 546/rwhp and 520/rwtq.

I have heard that. But if I put the 1598 full kit on the car and its all stock and run their stock flash, the tune should be safe, just not the most ideal for power especially considering that we have 93 octane gas here, and they must tune it to be safe on 91 octane that the kit says it must have at least 91 octane.

epstein · 07-26-2013, 09:38 AM

Ok One more Time......

That Tune is Garbage. Your car is gonna run like shit and the back is gonna be a sooty mess. If you push hard enough IT WILL PING.

47AJV8 · 07-27-2013, 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epstein

As for it not being the best or not efficient.... Like everything else thats opinion based. Same Eaton rotors.... longer runners....depends on your cup of tea,

I feel like efficiency isn't opinion based :P But being "the best" totally is.

realcanuk · 07-27-2013, 11:34 AM

The eforce is a fine choice if you are not going for crazy horsepower. It is reliable, good looking (opinion obviously), and makes the car a blast to drive on the street. If you are a track junkie or are going for huge numbers, (750+), then for sure there are better alternatives.
I will agree that using the edelbrock tune is not the best idea, and leaves a lot of the power you are paying for on the table.

Enjoy what ever decision you make and remember..... on the internet, whatever someone has themselves, is the best to them.

KTWillys · 07-27-2013, 01:05 PM

I have actually seen the SLP tune and the Edelbrock tune on the HP tuning system and they are both crap.. they will in the long run cost you a motor..
So yes these guys do know what they are saying..
no matter what system you get... get it tuned by some one good.. and no dont shop around for the cheapest.. or you will be in the same place you started..
you will have a good sum of money invested in your car a few hundred will not make that much difference in the overall cost but most certainly will in the longevity of your motor..

07-23-2013, 12:16 PM	#1
1LE Red Dragon Train Driver Drives: 2018 Summit White ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Lincolnton, NC Posts: 588	Dyno numbers onEdelbrock Eforce on Stock LS3? Has anybody had a bone stock LS3 Camaro with the Eforce kit and had it on the dyno with the tune from Edelbrock? Edelbrock chart shows 599 hp. That for sure is at the crank but don't know what they used for drivetrain efficiency. I have searched but haven't found the answer. Just curious if anyone knows. If nobody knows, in a month I might be able to answer my own question. Ha ha. Thanks, Brian

07-23-2013, 12:20 PM	#2
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	About 500rwhp if I recall correctly. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

07-24-2013, 07:35 AM	#3
Smirnoff Drives: Camaro SS Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Motorcity Dragway Posts: 978	Sounds right. __________________ 11.90's w/headers, CAI, custom tune, slicks/skinnys, shifter & 100+ Ethyl.

07-24-2013, 08:37 AM	#4
Unobtainium Fabricator Drives: 2011 2SS Summit White Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Langdon, AB Posts: 505	Honestly, it would be my last choice. Just not a very efficient set-up. They are down on power compared to the competition for sure. Whipple set-up seems like better value, even KB. __________________ Roto-fab CAI Unobtainium Welding Exhaust ARH LT's 393whp L99 GPI VVT Turbo Cam-in

07-25-2013, 12:00 PM	#7
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	Buy the time you add headers, cai, plugs, tune, etc why not just get a TT kit that makes low end, more torque, and more power? Just call Ted and get a TT kit. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

07-24-2013, 09:08 PM	#5
1LE Red Dragon Train Driver Drives: 2018 Summit White ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Lincolnton, NC Posts: 588	Looks like about +110 to 120 whp over stock from what I've gathered. I've found an incredible deal on one and with the rebate from Edelbrock its a over a grand cheaper than any other option. Its a full and most comprehensive kit there is and keeps an OEM style appearance and produces the most torque below 4000 rpm and loses just slightly up top. I will probably dyno with only the kit with ZR1 plugs and edelbrock flash. Then probably add the LS9 cam and intake, and 3.25" pulley with a tune. I hope to get the most power possible through the stock exhaust manifold and stock cats and my NPP exhaust. This should make for a real sleeper. I'm hoping I can make 550 whp with that setup. The 1LE car already comes with the ZL1 fuel pump. From what I hear 550 whp is all you can make with the 52# injectors that come with the kit. If that's a problem, I can update those as well.

07-25-2013, 11:44 AM	#6
epstein Account Suspended Drives: SS/RS Join Date: May 2010 Location: Transplanted from NYC..(ret. NYPD).Now in CT Posts: 904	If your getting one Ill give ya some advice before you install, Make sure it has the upgraded valley plate. Buy the JRE fuel line upgrade. It will save your back cylinders from fuel starvation. The Roto Fab is the CAI for you. JUNK THE CANNED TUNE If your thinking a smaller pulley its ID 850's Contact Ted he has great prices and supplies tunes...... As for it not being the best or not efficient.... Like everything else thats opinion based. Same Eaton rotors.... longer runners....depends on your cup of tea, Remember Everyone will tell you the best one out there is the one they BOUGHT. My numbers reflect a Conservative tune with LONGEVITY in mind. (Until I forge that spare motor I have) If your gonna install yourself Ill be more than happy to assist you should you have any questions . Ive walked a few people through it with additional pictures video calls etc. Hope this helps Brian

07-25-2013, 01:04 PM	#9
SSBUSDRVR Drives: '11 2SS/RS IBM/BLK M6 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Central FL Posts: 3,748 View My Garage	What epstein and sscamaro said. 650's here for over a year and still smiling. __________________ '11 IBM 2SS/RS Built and Tuned by Vengeance Racing Vengeance PCM Vengeance Racing Mast Black Label LS7 Headed 416 ProCharger Stage II D1X Race ,Monster Triple,Alky Control Meth Inj, Forgestar F14 Drag Version and a bunch of other blah blah blah.838/688 at 12lbs Street Friendly

07-26-2013, 09:38 AM	#11
epstein Account Suspended Drives: SS/RS Join Date: May 2010 Location: Transplanted from NYC..(ret. NYPD).Now in CT Posts: 904	Ok One more Time...... That Tune is Garbage. Your car is gonna run like shit and the back is gonna be a sooty mess. If you push hard enough IT WILL PING.

07-27-2013, 11:34 AM	#13
realcanuk Drives: 2007 Corvette C6 983 RWHP Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 690	The eforce is a fine choice if you are not going for crazy horsepower. It is reliable, good looking (opinion obviously), and makes the car a blast to drive on the street. If you are a track junkie or are going for huge numbers, (750+), then for sure there are better alternatives. I will agree that using the edelbrock tune is not the best idea, and leaves a lot of the power you are paying for on the table. Enjoy what ever decision you make and remember..... on the internet, whatever someone has themselves, is the best to them. __________________ 2007 C6 vert, auto, F55, LT3 LME LS402 , WCCH 245 Heads, Pat G. Custom cam YSI / 3.0 pulley, ARH 1 7/8 headers, NPP Dewitts / dual spals, A&A dual pump fuel system. 3.42 polished gears, hardened shafts, Alky control meth, Cartech line lock, ECS axle loops, Trans brace, 6L80 built by me. ID 1000 injectors, comp rockers, Morel lifters, BT springs, Trend 3/8 pushrods, ATI 10% OD Damper Circle D Triple Disc stall 1009 RWHP @ 7000, 817 RWTQ @ 6000,

07-27-2013, 01:05 PM	#14
KTWillys Drives: 2012 45th Anniversary Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: State Of Confusion Posts: 160	I have actually seen the SLP tune and the Edelbrock tune on the HP tuning system and they are both crap.. they will in the long run cost you a motor.. So yes these guys do know what they are saying.. no matter what system you get... get it tuned by some one good.. and no dont shop around for the cheapest.. or you will be in the same place you started.. you will have a good sum of money invested in your car a few hundred will not make that much difference in the overall cost but most certainly will in the longevity of your motor.. __________________