Conversion and cam hp numbers

[MARINE1991]

How much on average could I expect with a stock converter mild cam and conversion??? was told by the shop I be lucky to hit 50hp

[VADER SS L99]

I would say a 50-60RWHP bump in power is all you should expect for a cam that will play nice with the stock converter and give stock like driveability. If you have the extra coin to do heads at the same time then you can expect 80+RWHP.

[JEFF75645]

Before the cam, heads, Cai Intake, Ported TB, Ported Intake, UDP, and SP headers I was at 361 rwhp/ 381 rwtq. After 461 rwhp/ 424 rwtq

[MARINE1991]

Ok cool thanks.. is it worth the money..

[MARINE1991]

I'm at 373 now

[JEFF75645]

I think so but thats me. Even more so after I added the stall.


And the cam I have drove very well on the stock converter.

[MARINE1991]

Oh there trying to get me to get torq converter too but don't know..

[SPCBA]

dont do the conversion!!!! i am at ~450 wheel with a tiny cam and cai and kooks headers and wcch treatment on my heads. flat torque curve. Cam needs the supporting bolt ons to breath.

Driveability with stock converter is a little about the restraint in cam size and ALOT about the tune.

[SPCBA]

what do you want from the cam? just noise or power? or both? if you want a big choppy cam a stall might be suggested. If its a mild cam stock converter is fine with a quality tune.

[JEFF75645]

SPCBA what do you consider a "tiny" cam? Everyone has a different opinion of "tiny".Just curious.

[MARINE1991]

Originally Posted by SPCBA

what do you want from the cam? just noise or power? or both? if you want a big choppy cam a stall might be suggested. If its a mild cam stock converter is fine with a quality tune.

Blake I want both that's pretty much what I was told but told him I want 100 more he said would need the converter and can only go so big with the stock one

[JEFF75645]

Mine after install.

[SPCBA]

Originally Posted by JEFF75645

SPCBA what do you consider a "tiny" cam? Everyone has a different opinion of "tiny".Just curious.

your right it is subjective. Pretty much any cam tha retains stock driveability with stock converter I would consider tiny. I grew up with big blocks and cams so I would consider mine tiny.

Originally Posted by MARINE1991

Blake I want both that's pretty much what I was told but told him I want 100 more he said would need the converter and can only go so big with the stock one

100 for just the cam would be a tuners nightmare on stock converter. As some pros have said here too big a cam on stock converter and neither the customer or tuner is happy.

can you get 100 out of long tubes cai and some head work with your cam? easily i did better than that and kept vvt while ditching afm/dod. flat torque curve with oodles of power off idle...regardless if you keep vvt or not for the love of god get rid of the afm bits.

i am not a big peak numbers guy as my drag race days are over...i want usable power and overall averages.
If you come back go to ryne at cms

[JEFF75645]

Im also wanting to go with a bigger cam but Im not sure which direction to go really. Probaly end up with a custom grind. My cam right now is 223/236 59?/60?

Getting lighter wheels and suspension mods first though