Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
Phastek Performance
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > Engine | Drivetrain | Powertrain Technical Discussions > Camaro V6 LLT Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 10-30-2014, 05:44 PM   #1
Mongo RS
 
Mongo RS's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 2LT M6 RS
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Eastpointe MI
Posts: 278
Best bang for the buck mod?

Excuse me if this has been asked before, for I art lazy and unwilling to search...

What would be the best 'first mod' on the LLT?
Mongo RS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2014, 05:52 PM   #2
JDP Sales
 
JDP Sales's Avatar
 
Drives: Chevys at the limit
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: SLC, UT
Posts: 9,621
Elite Engineering Catch can
Intake system
VMAX TB
VMAX Isolator
Headers w/ HFCs
Tune
Suspension

Most people go in this order.

Feel free to call, PM or email me anytime with questions.

Best regards,

Tyler
888-308-6007
JDP Sales is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2014, 06:28 PM   #3
rwi2112
Green Manalishi
 
rwi2112's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Synergy Green Camaro LT
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Southern Indiana
Posts: 217
Excuse me but I'm kinda stupid. What is a catch can? I was going to go with a K&N Typhoon Cold Air kit and Magna Flow axle back exhaust but I am not sure what a catch can is.
rwi2112 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2014, 06:36 PM   #4
JDP Sales
 
JDP Sales's Avatar
 
Drives: Chevys at the limit
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: SLC, UT
Posts: 9,621
Quote:
Originally Posted by rwi2112 View Post
Excuse me but I'm kinda stupid. What is a catch can? I was going to go with a K&N Typhoon Cold Air kit and Magna Flow axle back exhaust but I am not sure what a catch can is.
A catch can is very important if you plan on keeping the car for years to come.

Purpose of your Stock PCV System:
The PCV (Positive Crankcase Ventilation) system is designed to regulate and remove fumes from the engine crankcase, and to alleviate crankcase pressure which could cause oil leaks or seal damage. The PCV system routes crankcase fumes into the intake manifold where they can burned to eliminate harmful emissions into the atmosphere. The PCV valve controls the amount of crankcase flow volume depending on the engine's load. With large throttle openings (high engine loads), the more blow-by gases are produced, and the more the PCV system flows oil vapor in to the intake manifold. The PCV valve also functions as a check valve to prevent intake manifold flow from reversing back into the crankcase when there is a backfire, or during periods of high manifold pressure (boost) during forced induction by turbocharger or supercharger.[/B]

Negative Effects of your Stock PCV System:
Many Camaro V6 owners can testify to the amount of oil residue that can accumulate inside the intake manifold, throttle body, intake track and even the air filter during aggressive driving conditions. There are various negative effects when excess oil vapor contaminates the intake system from the stock PCV system - such as -
  • Throttle body and/or MAFS (Mass Air Flow Sensor) malfunction or failure
  • Air filter, intercooler (if equipped) and intake ducting contamination if oil pools and run back out the intake system after engine shutdown
  • Reduced octane of the air/fuel mixture, which can cause detonation and the ECM (Engine Control Module) to retard timing, thereby reducing engine power
  • Excessive carbon build-up on valves, piston crowns, combustion chambers and spark plugs. This also increases the chance of detonation and power loss
  • Increased emissions & possible contamination of catalytic converters and oxygen sensors
Ultimate Function:
The E2 Elite Engineering PCV Oil Catch Can is designed to effectively separate oil from the crankcase vapors, thereby eliminating all negative effects of excessive intake system oil contamination. The E2 Catch Can has been engineered to remove the oil vapor before it has a chance to contaminate your intake system.



Also, I would suggest the Roto-Fab or CAI system over the K&N. The K&N really doesn't seal the engine bay heat from the filter well enough.

Feel free to call, PM or email me anytime with questions.

Best regards,

Tyler
888-308-6007
JDP Sales is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2014, 08:40 PM   #5
Mongo RS
 
Mongo RS's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 2LT M6 RS
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Eastpointe MI
Posts: 278
Hmmm. I wonder how much of that mucous is in my engine after 88,000 miles......
Mongo RS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2014, 09:08 PM   #6
IBM camaro
Texas HT5
 
Drives: IBM
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Tx
Posts: 1,335
Lol a lot
IBM camaro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2014, 11:42 PM   #7
VOLmanTN
Go Vols!
 
VOLmanTN's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: FL
Posts: 226
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mongo RS View Post
Hmmm. I wonder how much of that mucous is in my engine after 88,000 miles......
88k Miles and just now wanting to mod?

I would start with a tune up
VOLmanTN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2014, 02:41 AM   #8
Mongo RS
 
Mongo RS's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 2LT M6 RS
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Eastpointe MI
Posts: 278
88,000 miles and just bought it.

I know, kinda late to the party, lol.
Mongo RS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2014, 04:38 AM   #9
45thCamaro


 
45thCamaro's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 Camaro 45th Anniversary RS
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: New York
Posts: 2,418
Why is that all yellow? I've never seen yellow junk in my catch can.
45thCamaro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2014, 05:32 AM   #10
rtcat600man
having FUN now 13.66@101
 
rtcat600man's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 2LT IOM
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Clarkston, Michigan
Posts: 9,230
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mongo RS View Post
Excuse me if this has been asked before, for I art lazy and unwilling to search...

What would be the best 'first mod' on the LLT?

Come join the D5GCC, meet up with me at our next event meeting Friday the 7th. I am the club V6 Guru and will help you spend you money on the mods you ask about, want and need. Careful thou, modding becomes an addiction. Send me a friend request and PM and I will send you some other info too.

Lastly, click on my build sheet next to my signature, this will give you a good idea of what can be done for your Camaro.
__________________
rtcat600man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2014, 09:55 AM   #11
JDP Sales
 
JDP Sales's Avatar
 
Drives: Chevys at the limit
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: SLC, UT
Posts: 9,621
Quote:
Originally Posted by 45thCamaro View Post
Why is that all yellow? I've never seen yellow junk in my catch can.
Condensation. When driven in the winter you'll catch a lot of water as well as oil, fuel etc..

Best regards,

Tyler
888-308-6007
JDP Sales is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2014, 11:19 AM   #12
Joker853
 
Joker853's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro 1SS
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Southern Maryland
Posts: 91
Listen to Tyler, he really knows his stuff. My favorite mod is easily headers, though it will most likely void GMs warranty because of the tune you will need to get.

My second favorite would be my barton short throw shifter.

Best bang for your buck I would say is a CAI intake, although I haven't bought a ported tb, and not even sure what an isolator is.

Once you start modding and participating in these forums and even a car club, be prepared to think "I have extra money, what else could I buy for the car." Lol. Cheers!
__________________
Mods:
Stainless Power 1 7/8" Long Tubes, High Flow Cats
Flowmaster Outlaw Axle-back
CAI Cold Air Intake
Barton Short-throw Shifter
JRE Custom Tune w/ Diablosport Trinity
SLP Front Splitter
Joker853 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2014, 11:46 AM   #13
JDP Sales
 
JDP Sales's Avatar
 
Drives: Chevys at the limit
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: SLC, UT
Posts: 9,621
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joker853 View Post
Listen to Tyler, he really knows his stuff. My favorite mod is easily headers, though it will most likely void GMs warranty because of the tune you will need to get.

My second favorite would be my barton short throw shifter.

Best bang for your buck I would say is a CAI intake, although I haven't bought a ported tb, and not even sure what an isolator is.

Once you start modding and participating in these forums and even a car club, be prepared to think "I have extra money, what else could I buy for the car." Lol. Cheers!
Thanks.

In my honest opinion, I'd say the ICE-olator is the best bang for the buck mod you can do on the LLT. Basically, it is an insulator/spacer that keeps the heat from the engine from transferring into the aluminum intake manifold. This REALLY helps drop intake temps, resulting in cooler air entering your combustion chambers; cooler/denser air = a more violent explosion = more power. We've seen gains of about 15-22 WHP in the mid-range RPM with this mod.

Part # 250-LP


Best regards,

Tyler
888-308-6007
JDP Sales is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2014, 11:49 AM   #14
rtcat600man
having FUN now 13.66@101
 
rtcat600man's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 2LT IOM
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Clarkston, Michigan
Posts: 9,230
More power boost:

Get a CAI system, there are some in the market place for sale. New are expensive (somewhat). Used are still just as good.

Check this link for example.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=381793

I see the person is asking $285 shipped firm.


Here is another one.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=382385



Next bang for the buck is a Black Ice Olater.

That too sometimes is offered in the market place.

This one is sold, but so you know about them too.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=381008


For sure I would get a catch can. Few good decent ones available too.

RX makes a good one. Elite makes a good one too.

I would recommend a top end clean-up thou since this has so many miles and does not have a catch can yet.

I would recommend a dealer doing it if you have never done it before.

Rodgers Chevrolet is our main sponsor and the only dealer I trust to do anything for me anymore today.

I travel 60 miles one way to see them.



Lots of good info about our performance stuff is one this thread.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16893


Those few items will defiantly get you started for some bang for the buck stuff.
__________________
rtcat600man is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:48 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.