04-13-2017, 01:04 PM | #1 |
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DFW - Race tracks
I just got the ZL1 and have never tracked my past cars, but I think I am going to for this car. I am not a novice at driving, but have never tracked because I can't stand a helmet. So I am going to buck it up and try it.
I only die once, right. Any suggestions on anything. Looks like I need a Helment(don't know what to buy), suit, maybe good shoes. I have looked at several tracks around. Eagles Canyon, Motorsport Ranch, just to name a couple. Any tips from anyone before I take the plunge?
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04-13-2017, 01:23 PM | #2 |
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The Apex driving academy at Motorsports Ranch Cresson is really good. Instructors are great and they limit the number of drivers on track at once to 15 I think, which makes less traffic on course.
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04-13-2017, 01:37 PM | #3 |
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You want a helmet that is SA rated (pref 2015). Dont let anyone tell you a motorcycle helmet is okay, its not and they're designed for a SINGLE different impact. If your just doing an HPDE you dont need a suit or gloves. Wear long pants and cotton tee (long or short, sometimes groups require long). You will get used to wearing a helmet, the same you got used to the ridiculously terrible visibility in the camaro.
Also, if you've never been on a track before, your a novice. No amount of street driving or drag strip or anything else is comparable. It takes many hours of actual on track time to be bumped out of novice. There is track awareness and other aspects that determine where you are as a driver. The goal should not be to be the fastest in the group (thats easy in a ZL1), it should be to be perfectly smooth, be properly on the racing line, and not cause any pucker moments or worse. Remember, the point is to have fun and go home safe just the way you arrived. The fastest laps I've ever ran, were done not when I was trying to beat previous times, but when I was just focused on being safe and smooth anyway. My experience: Instructor |
04-13-2017, 01:39 PM | #4 |
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Also I bought my helmet from Smiley's Racing, it depends on the track / event but I'm pretty sure you just need one that is Snell SA2005 or higher rated. You dont need a suit or shoes unless you want them. Some tracks require long sleeve shirts but they only require suits in general if you have like a race car. You need close toed shoes but that is the only requirement.
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04-13-2017, 02:04 PM | #5 |
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AMEN!
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04-13-2017, 05:18 PM | #6 | |
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I am not sure if this can be done, but I would like the instructor to drive my car for me once around to show me the ropes and remove most of the surprises visually. Then let me drive with him in, of course. They said I might not get to drive solo for several visits. Fine by me. So I guess I have to go get my big fat head measured for a helmet. I am 6'1" and it might be tight with the sunroof....stupid sunroof. Ok, I am off to go for my usual off road bike ride around Grapevine Lake...and of course I am hauling @$$....fast but safe and of course fun.
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04-13-2017, 06:58 PM | #7 |
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That does sound good. I have heard the track at Eagles Canyon was kinda beat up and needs repair. Do you know about that?
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04-14-2017, 07:39 AM | #8 |
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Minimum shoe requirement for HPDE seems to be that they have to be 'closed'. No open-toe shoes, flip-flops, or sandals. Tie-up "walking shoes" that you could wear to work most places (Reebok, New Balance, etc.) are OK, not sure about loafers (but I wouldn't ever recommend them even if they were OK'ed).
For a helmet, give eyeport size (and perhaps shape) consideration. With SA2015 being better than SA2010 (and SA2005 perhaps not being accepted everywhere or by every track day group). I'd suggest Simpson's Voyager except that I received notice yesterday that some of them (some SA2015's) have been recalled for a fix. From an Intermediate-level (solo) point of view: drive smoothly and at a pace that you and your instructor are both comfortable with. Don't worry about how much of that available power you're NOT using or about 'peak speeds attained down the straights' . . . top speed is probably the least important measure here (never mind that you may have already driven this and other cars faster than that - "unofficially", of course ). Autocross experience might have prepared you for the cornering g's, but not the cornering speeds (not the same thing at all). Nothing else is even that close. Norm
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04-14-2017, 08:34 AM | #9 |
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Also, follow the performance supplement: change/upgrade oil & brake fluid, and bed those brake pads.
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04-14-2017, 08:37 AM | #10 |
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I think it also said after 1500 miles if you are going to track it, change the rear end gear oil.
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04-14-2017, 08:42 AM | #11 |
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how beat up is the car, the paint, going to get tracking it?
Do you guys use a separate set of wheels and tires? Or just the street setup?
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I ran last season with OEM wheels and a more track focused tire (the oem tires are fine for less experienced drivers and occasional tracking). I have dedicated track wheels now though (you should if you are tracking often), and put the oem tires back on the oem wheels for street use. |
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