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JaronM · 03-13-2021, 12:08 PM

Hey everyone, I’ve been contemplating ordering Texas Speed 1 7/8ths long tubes with the off road connections. Am I going to need the extras such as the Heat sleeve, super conductor wires, new gaskets, header bolts, or spark plugs? I currently just have a cai and muffler delete and I have 70k miles. Any help will be appreciated!

Ashen 6.2 · 03-13-2021, 12:47 PM

Every set of headers I've bought came with the bolts and gaskets. With you being at 70k miles it might not be a bad idea to change the plugs but its not absolutely needed. I would certainly remove them while putting the headers in though.

InFiD3ViL · 03-13-2021, 12:54 PM

I recommend changing the plugs when doing the headers, unless they are already in good shape. You really should remove them for the install anyway, since leaving them in during the install puts you at risk of cracking a plug or two when the flange inevitably hits the plug. It only takes the lightest of taps to crack a plug.

If you are still running the OEM header gasket then you can probably reuse those. But some people like to get some freshies for the header install. Just make sure to use the OEM MLS style if you swap them out.

I am not using any sort of heat sleeve and have never had any issues with melted wires with my TSP headers - the boots don't really come close. I reused the OEM bolts.

Camaro2ss2010 · 03-13-2021, 12:57 PM

My TSP came with new gaskets and bolts. You will need the O2 extensions as well if they are not included. I didn’t remove my spark plugs and had no issues. If this is your first set to install or you don’t have an extra hand I would recommend removing them though. Not a hard install.

1JEWLDSSRS · 03-13-2021, 01:26 PM

All what they said!!!! I would remove the plugs just for their safety, if you do slip and crack one, well then you need to go get new ones..

Avenging Orange · 03-13-2021, 01:44 PM

Get new OEM gaskets...and I'd suggest new plugs. Reuse stock bolts. Might think about hi-flow cats, because with a muffler delete, that dude is gonna be loud.
Get a tune and go have fun!

CamaroDreams76 · 03-13-2021, 04:47 PM

I installed longtubes around 60k. I replaced my plugs, wires and header bolts.

gunchamp · 03-13-2021, 05:21 PM

What ever you do, dont use paper trash gaskets that some manufacturers send with their headers. Oem multi layer steel only. You can reuse stock bolts or upgrade to arps. Change plugs. 70k and you have to remove them anyway. I put msd wires in when i did mine amd just to be safe, i installed heat sleves

Sinister10 · 03-13-2021, 05:39 PM

i just installed my TSP 1 7/8 with high flow cats last weekend. like others have said, get new MLS gaskets from Texas Speed, you can reuse the manifold bolts, all other hardware should be included. You will need to get O2 extensions (also from Texas speed) as well as a tune. I recommend getting an SCT X4 tuner from RDP Motorsport and have Dyno Steve do a remote tune for you, you will not regret it.

I did not remove my plugs when i did mine, and i did manage to tap one with the header flange and broke it in half..so, your call if you want to remove them. If i were to do it again, they would come out.

03-13-2021, 12:08 PM	#1
JaronM Drives: 2010 SS Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: Kansas Posts: 4	TSP Long Tubes Hey everyone, I’ve been contemplating ordering Texas Speed 1 7/8ths long tubes with the off road connections. Am I going to need the extras such as the Heat sleeve, super conductor wires, new gaskets, header bolts, or spark plugs? I currently just have a cai and muffler delete and I have 70k miles. Any help will be appreciated!

03-13-2021, 12:47 PM	#2
Ashen 6.2 Drives: 2014 Camaro Z/SS Join Date: May 2014 Location: NW Arkansas Posts: 2,147 View My Garage	Every set of headers I've bought came with the bolts and gaskets. With you being at 70k miles it might not be a bad idea to change the plugs but its not absolutely needed. I would certainly remove them while putting the headers in though. __________________ 2014 Camaro SS L99, Ashen Grey w/Black Leather - Build thread - http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=491561 GPI 416 w/Custom GPI Cam, GPI Ported Heads & Tuned by Ben, Holley Dominator ECU, Mag Heartbeat, ZL1 Fuel Pump/DSX Aux Pump, NW 103 TB, FIC 1650's, Alky Meth, Rossler T400 w/t-brake, Circle D Converter, Kooks Headers, Viking Coil Overs & all the BMR Goodies in the rear, Zl1 3.23 Diff, DSS Axles, Wiles Racing Driveshaft, Hendrix Offset Diff Bushings, AFE Solid Subframe Bushings, 875HP/843TQ 5FDP

03-13-2021, 12:54 PM	#3
InFiD3ViL Drives: 2010 CGM 2SS/RS LS3 Swapped A6 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Spring Hill, FL Posts: 4,733	I recommend changing the plugs when doing the headers, unless they are already in good shape. You really should remove them for the install anyway, since leaving them in during the install puts you at risk of cracking a plug or two when the flange inevitably hits the plug. It only takes the lightest of taps to crack a plug. If you are still running the OEM header gasket then you can probably reuse those. But some people like to get some freshies for the header install. Just make sure to use the OEM MLS style if you swap them out. I am not using any sort of heat sleeve and have never had any issues with melted wires with my TSP headers - the boots don't really come close. I reused the OEM bolts. __________________ 2010 CGM Camaro 2SS LS3 Swapped A6 - GPI LS3 SS1 .647/.638, (224/237, 112 +4, 7º overlap) on CamMotion 8620 core, BTR Platinum .660" Dual Spring kit w/titanium retainers, CHE bronze trunnion upgrade, stock heads milled @ .015, Melling HV 10296 oil pump, TSP 1-7/8" long tube headers (W/Catless Off-road Pipes), Corsa Xtreme 3" Catback, GPI Ported/Rod Mod Intake, Stage 2 Ported Throttle Body, Vararam OTR CAI, Mike Norris Gen 2 catch can + GM 1LE clean side separator, 160º thermostat - Megan Racing adjustable coilovers (lowered 1.75"), MRR M017 10/11" wheels-Tuned by Ryan @ GPI

03-13-2021, 12:57 PM	#4
Camaro2ss2010 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SSRS M6 Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Alabama Posts: 1,285	My TSP came with new gaskets and bolts. You will need the O2 extensions as well if they are not included. I didn’t remove my spark plugs and had no issues. If this is your first set to install or you don’t have an extra hand I would recommend removing them though. Not a hard install. __________________ ECS supercharger, Texas speed stage 3 boosted cam, Johnson 2110 race style lifters, ported throttle body, long tube headers, aeromotive fuel pump, fic injectors, ATI super damper, Corsa Extreme exhaust, elite engineering catch can and many other things.

03-13-2021, 01:26 PM	#5
1JEWLDSSRS Drives: 2011 SS-RS Join Date: May 2011 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 13,687	All what they said!!!! I would remove the plugs just for their safety, if you do slip and crack one, well then you need to go get new ones.. __________________ TSP STAGE 3 CAM,231/246 @112 LSA 614/641 LIFT, CIRCLE D 5C-4200-4500 CONVERTER,LOD INTAKE.CORSA EXHAUST. DSS 1 PC DS. PEGASUS SOLID CRADLE MOUNTS. 486RWHP/475RWTQ.LOTS MORE.

03-13-2021, 01:44 PM	#6
Avenging Orange Drives: 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Clermont, IN Posts: 3,297	Get new OEM gaskets...and I'd suggest new plugs. Reuse stock bolts. Might think about hi-flow cats, because with a muffler delete, that dude is gonna be loud. Get a tune and go have fun! __________________ 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS M6 Black Leather, Sun Roof, OBX Headers, Borla touring axle back, Cold Air Inductions CAI , non synthetic fluids, BMR total bushing upgrade/1" lowering springs, DSE 32mm rear sway bar. GM fe4 shocks/struts/LCA's, AAM 3.91 diff, Vertini RFS1.8 20x9 +30. Conti ExtremeContact Sport 275/35/20. sjm autoprod ABL dash kit. Mike Norris tuned 413/419. Avenging Orange: 43 years of not buying into the Hype........and damn proud of it!! https://youtu.be/9JD9it6SmB8 https://youtu.be/xmelTlEzI34 KICKING CANCERS ASS SINCE 2015!!

03-13-2021, 04:47 PM	#7
CamaroDreams76 Tri-County Camaro SWFL Drives: 2013 IOM 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: South West FL Posts: 3,334 View My Garage	I installed longtubes around 60k. I replaced my plugs, wires and header bolts. __________________ Just bolt ons........ https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=343023

03-13-2021, 05:21 PM	#8
gunchamp Drives: 15 Camaro SS Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Mountains of central PA Posts: 1,442	What ever you do, dont use paper trash gaskets that some manufacturers send with their headers. Oem multi layer steel only. You can reuse stock bolts or upgrade to arps. Change plugs. 70k and you have to remove them anyway. I put msd wires in when i did mine amd just to be safe, i installed heat sleves __________________ 15 Camaro SS- GPI max top end, ESS Vortech V3 9psi, ID 1050s, ZL1 pump, JMS bap, Long tubes, Corsa extreme, Circle D pro 5C, 391 rear, DSS carbon drive shaft, poly cradle bushings, tuned by Ted Jannetty and much much more

03-13-2021, 05:39 PM	#9
Sinister10 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Indiana Posts: 543	i just installed my TSP 1 7/8 with high flow cats last weekend. like others have said, get new MLS gaskets from Texas Speed, you can reuse the manifold bolts, all other hardware should be included. You will need to get O2 extensions (also from Texas speed) as well as a tune. I recommend getting an SCT X4 tuner from RDP Motorsport and have Dyno Steve do a remote tune for you, you will not regret it. I did not remove my plugs when i did mine, and i did manage to tap one with the header flange and broke it in half..so, your call if you want to remove them. If i were to do it again, they would come out. __________________ 2010 2SS/RS 6M, MGW flatstick, CAI cold air intake, SLP loudmouth 2 axleback, TSP 1 7/8 headers w/ hfc, pfadt 1" springs, SRP pedals, emblempros "6.2L" emblems on hood, ZL1 grill, M/T SC-5 wheels, nitto motivo 275f 315r. ZL1 addons wickerbill, smoked lenses, resonator delete x pipe, diode dynamics DRLs 1LE suede steering wheel, mighty mouse CC. SCTX4 and Dyno Steve tune.