Finally Finished. 12 bolt replacement IRS for 2010 Camaro! - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

xlr8nova · 04-27-2010, 06:50 PM

It is finally here! The ultimate 12 bolt irs for your 2010 camaro. This IRS center section will bolt up in place on your existing mounts. This unit will require a new driveshaft and new half shafts. Which you will need anyway if you are running the horsepower that requires this centersection! We are working with Moser as the supplier of the stubs and half shafts which should be available shortly. This makes 35 spline WaveTrack lockers, 40 Spline spools, Pro gears and all the gearing for a 12 bolt available for your 2010 Camaro!

*KILLER74Z28* · 04-27-2010, 07:13 PM

Nice...

xlr8nova · 04-27-2010, 07:19 PM

yeah sorry it took so long Mike. Having your car helped steer us in the right direction of doing the IRS. Just WAY too many issues with doing a solid axle conversion. Again, Many thanks to you!

ron10 · 04-27-2010, 07:22 PM

very nice.

speedster · 04-27-2010, 07:41 PM

Wow !!

Now that looks like a solid piece.

I have to go make some phone calls...I have to see if certain external parts will work with this.

When is it actually available?

Please PM me for price.

Mr Twisty · 04-27-2010, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedster

Wow !!

Now that looks like a solid piece.

I have to go make some phone calls...I have to see if certain external parts will work with this.

When is it actually available?

Please PM me for price.

Calm down buddy.... breathe....

Nice work

hamidar05 · 04-27-2010, 09:03 PM

That looks awesome! Looks like it is pretty hefty too. Does anyone know the weight of the old unit and what yours weighs? Just curious. Can't get any more bullet proof than a 12 bolt.

That's aftermarket innovation!

ZZcamaro · 04-27-2010, 09:39 PM

It looks like a very strong piece...
Why not have made it work with the already available aftermarket axles??

I think you would have sold more if you did that. I am sure with all the fab work going on you could make that adaptation.

*radz28* · 04-27-2010, 10:02 PM

Holly s*it

speedster · 04-27-2010, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterCamaro69

Calm down buddy.... breathe....

Nice work

Sorry. My breathing is back to normal. The case and gears have been one of the Achilles heels of a high HP build. Now where is that brown paper bag to breath into when you need it?

*KILLER74Z28* · 04-27-2010, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xlr8nova

With the 40 spline spool and pro-gears you could put crazy horsepower to it. I'm thinking 1500-2000hp level. Then someone would need to step up with a knuckle. I was at a shop that has already made 2200 on a ls motor. As for weight. Yes it weighs more. I'll have to put them on the scale. But with the beauty of IRS at least it's unsprung weight.

Guys, here is some more info from Ken. He is working on getting some more stats for us. I'd say not to shabby for less than a years work after taking the measurements off my Camaro.

Info@PeddersUSA.com · 04-28-2010, 01:26 AM

Prettty cool!!

mike
dms

xlr8nova · 04-28-2010, 05:34 AM

so heres the deal with making it work with the existing aftermarket axles. Width was a HUGE issue. We kept the package as tight as possible. The OEM housing doesn't have a bearing supporting at the flange end of the axle. The carrier is designed to accomodate this. The 12 bolt was never intended for this type of setup. If you tried to do this without a retained bearing the axle would only be supported by splined surface. And with the forces created by the axle shafts you would basically turn the stubs into rotary broaches and destruction would shortly ensue. So yes we EXTENSIVELY looked at trying to make this work as a bolt in for exsisting aftermarket axles. But, we are already communicating with Moser and Gforce about axle sourcing. The housing is being brought down to Moser within the next day for axle fitment. This first rear is going to be in Jim Barber's Camaro for the power tour. We would like to get at least 10 orders to help drop the production price down. So get with Skip to start pre-ordering. A second one is currently being built.

speedster · 04-28-2010, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xlr8nova

so heres the deal with making it work with the existing aftermarket axles. Width was a HUGE issue. We kept the package as tight as possible. The OEM housing doesn't have a bearing supporting at the flange end of the axle. The carrier is designed to accomodate this. The 12 bolt was never intended for this type of setup. If you tried to do this without a retained bearing the axle would only be supported by splined surface. And with the forces created by the axle shafts you would basically turn the stubs into rotary broaches and destruction would shortly ensue. So yes we EXTENSIVELY looked at trying to make this work as a bolt in for exsisting aftermarket axles. But, we are already communicating with Moser and Gforce about axle sourcing. The housing is being brought down to Moser within the next day for axle fitment. This first rear is going to be in Jim Barber's Camaro for the power tour. We would like to get at least 10 orders to help drop the production price down. So get with Skip to start pre-ordering. A second one is currently being built.

Ken - if you can get the GForce outlaw axles to work with this, I'm in. Chris made those with HUGE knuckles and large 300-M axles (presently 35 spline). The SST Camaro can push the numbers your are talking about hence my excitement over the thought of a great solution. Does the front of this unit need a special pinion yoke?? Up to this point, this has been the biggest pain in the rear(end)...lol

PM with pricing please - does Skip have an account on Camaro5?

04-27-2010, 06:50 PM	#1
xlr8nova Drives: nova Join Date: May 2009 Location: whitehall Posts: 15	Finally Finished. 12 bolt replacement IRS for 2010 Camaro! It is finally here! The ultimate 12 bolt irs for your 2010 camaro. This IRS center section will bolt up in place on your existing mounts. This unit will require a new driveshaft and new half shafts. Which you will need anyway if you are running the horsepower that requires this centersection! We are working with Moser as the supplier of the stubs and half shafts which should be available shortly. This makes 35 spline WaveTrack lockers, 40 Spline spools, Pro gears and all the gearing for a 12 bolt available for your 2010 Camaro! Attached Images

04-27-2010, 07:13 PM	#2
KILLER74Z28 MOD SQUAD Drives: 2G1FT1EW9A9100666 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: West Michigan Posts: 5,782 View My Garage	Nice... __________________ Who cares about the Blue Oval crowd and their little Ponys? We're getting our Camaro back-and it'll be Supercharged!-MDAII Team LS3

04-27-2010, 07:41 PM	#5
speedster SST... Drives: SST Camaro 2010 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: East Coast of Florida Posts: 5,927 View My Garage	Wow !! Now that looks like a solid piece. I have to go make some phone calls...I have to see if certain external parts will work with this. When is it actually available? Please PM me for price. __________________

04-27-2010, 09:03 PM	#7
hamidar05 Drives: 10 Camaro/69 Bronco/08 Mazda3 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 305 View My Garage	That looks awesome! Looks like it is pretty hefty too. Does anyone know the weight of the old unit and what yours weighs? Just curious. Can't get any more bullet proof than a 12 bolt. That's aftermarket innovation! __________________ Selection Worksheet - 04/27/09 3300 - 08/03/09 6000 - 08/25/09 VIN# 34612 Bitchin Camaro - Dead Milkmen - http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/8092 Thank You Oshawa - Domo arigato Mr. Roboto ~1600 mi so far - 07/18/10

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xlr8nova Drives: nova Join Date: May 2009 Location: whitehall Posts: 15	yeah sorry it took so long Mike. Having your car helped steer us in the right direction of doing the IRS. Just WAY too many issues with doing a solid axle conversion. Again, Many thanks to you!

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04-27-2010, 09:39 PM	#8
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04-28-2010, 05:34 AM	#13
xlr8nova Drives: nova Join Date: May 2009 Location: whitehall Posts: 15	so heres the deal with making it work with the existing aftermarket axles. Width was a HUGE issue. We kept the package as tight as possible. The OEM housing doesn't have a bearing supporting at the flange end of the axle. The carrier is designed to accomodate this. The 12 bolt was never intended for this type of setup. If you tried to do this without a retained bearing the axle would only be supported by splined surface. And with the forces created by the axle shafts you would basically turn the stubs into rotary broaches and destruction would shortly ensue. So yes we EXTENSIVELY looked at trying to make this work as a bolt in for exsisting aftermarket axles. But, we are already communicating with Moser and Gforce about axle sourcing. The housing is being brought down to Moser within the next day for axle fitment. This first rear is going to be in Jim Barber's Camaro for the power tour. We would like to get at least 10 orders to help drop the production price down. So get with Skip to start pre-ordering. A second one is currently being built.