GMPP Shorty Headers - 92213295

[vm1971]

Ok, forgive me if i was search-lazy... i did search, but didnt see a lot of current threads for my question.

i like keeping things 100% GM, i just do.
SO-
anyone here have the GMPP Shorty Headers on their car?
If so,
comments? thoughts? pics?
the next thing is the intake and headers, and again... (just deal with it! haha) i love keeping it ALL GM.

thanks in advance!!

V

[Apex Paul]

Originally Posted by vm1971

Ok, forgive me if i was search-lazy... i did search, but didnt see a lot of current threads for my question.

i like keeping things 100% GM, i just do.
SO-
anyone here have the GMPP Shorty Headers on their car?
If so,
comments? thoughts? pics?
the next thing is the intake and headers, and again... (just deal with it! haha) i love keeping it ALL GM.

thanks in advance!!

V

You're aware that GM doesn't make those parts, right? Even GM doesn't keep it all GM. Don't get me wrong, their fine parts, I even sell GMPP. You're not alone, however. I meet people from time to time that feel the same way. I'm curious why, I guess because I don't get it. But I always say, personalizing your car is personal, so do it like you want it!

My general thoughts on shorty headers is "why do it?", when you can go with long tube headers and get a lot more oomph. For my money, there's not enough gain to justify the cost for most shorty header applications.

The intake will likely give you some improvement since it removes the sound baffles, but I don't know if it will perform as well as some other intakes that are available. It does looks good, like it was OEM.

[vm1971]

Originally Posted by Apex Paul

You're aware that GM doesn't make those parts, right? Even GM doesn't keep it all GM. Don't get me wrong, their fine parts, I even sell GMPP. You're not alone, however. I meet people from time to time that feel the same way. I'm curious why, I guess because I don't get it. But I always say, personalizing your car is personal, so do it like you want it!

My general thoughts on shorty headers is "why do it?", when you can go with long tube headers and get a lot more oomph. For my money, there's not enough gain to justify the cost for most shorty header applications.

The intake will likely give you some improvement since it removes the sound baffles, but it probably won't perform as well as some other intakes that are available. But it does looks good.

nice info!!!!!!!!!!

[el ess A]

GM doesn't technically "make" any of their parts. Even OEM. In fact, somewhere in Korea right now, there's someone hammering out some genuine, factory Camaro fender emblems and bowties as we speak.

[vm1971]

Originally Posted by el ess X

GM doesn't technically "make" any of their parts. Even OEM. In fact, somewhere in Korea right now, there's someone hammering out some genuine, factory Camaro fender emblems and bowties as we speak.

true...
of course.. i still like the look and stuff of the GMPP stuff in the GM car.
i know that my exhaust upgrade is also the same deal...
but ive got pals that can really help $ wise for the GM stuff.
so, i was curious as to who ON here has the shorty headers and hear what they have to say.

[SS 376]

I would do a search for 'shorty headers' in this forum. The consensus is that you get no gains from them and can lose HP/Torque.

[vm1971]

Originally Posted by SS 376

I would do a search for 'shorty headers' in this forum. The consensus is that you get no gains from them and can lose HP/Torque.

....good, good info.
thanks!!!!! have a great holiday weekend, also. to all!

[Iron Lung Jimmy]

Originally Posted by Apex Paul

You're aware that GM doesn't make those parts, right? Even GM doesn't keep it all GM. Don't get me wrong, their fine parts, I even sell GMPP. You're not alone, however. I meet people from time to time that feel the same way. I'm curious why, I guess because I don't get it. But I always say, personalizing your car is personal, so do it like you want it!

Keeping your car all GM is for people who are inclined to want to keep it stock but at the same time want some personalization. GMPP mods are fully factory backed and warrantied... so no worries there... and even if they don't increase performance they look cool and set your car apart. Also, people who tend toward this line of thinking are also the kind of people who are going to keep their cars mint so they are all probably going to be around in 20 or so years when they start to get valuable... at which point the GMPP parts will be rare.

Not for everybody to be sure, but I think that's the mindset.

[FB3]

In 20 years these cars will not be rare. Maybe in 40. However, a stock unmolested car will be worth more than a modified one.

[radz28]

I believe Borla was making the shorties for GMPP but GMPP made a statement (or someone from over there did) that the shorties didn't make production because there was little benefit from them. It's funny, because I thought I remembered an actual statement from them also saying their CAI was more for looks than performance, but that's not the topic. Anyways, like I said - Borla was making the shorties for GM (just like they do for the CBs and ABs) so you can rest assured if you want quality parts, Borla is a good choice; if they are good enough for GM, they are probably trustworthy. I've used a couple Borla CBs and mufflers in the past, and the one problem I had was resolved the same day of my initial call and I got my replacement two days later.

I'm not trying to sound like I'm pushing Borla - I'm just pointing out their connection with GMPP, with regard to your post

[rally yellow ss rs]

So, if we go with Borla- no added GM fees...but a voided warranty. Go GMPP, same as Borla, just paying extra fees to keep your warranty. Pretty cut and dry.

[MarylandSpeed]

An exhaust should not void your warranty, no matter who you buy it from.

[rally yellow ss rs]

They told me at the dealership that it would because the back pressure and the sensors would be off.

[Ivan @ Southwest Speed]

Originally Posted by rally yellow ss rs

They told me at the dealership that it would because the back pressure and the sensors would be off.

Most every Short Tube on the market retains the factory location AND Cats.

Unless you manipulate or modify these, you aren't breaking any laws or warranty.

Now a dealer who "voids" your warranty can only technically void the parts that are replaced.

Of course, this is how it is SUPPOSED to work but there are always flies in the ointment.

Best of luck and we're all here to help.

Ivan