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Mike C 08-13-2008 06:51 AM

Press release: 2010 Camaro Audio by Visteon and Boston Acoustics
 
Just found this on our Company site.

Visteon and Boston Acoustics to complement 2010 Camaro with sophisticated premium audio

VAN BUREN TOWNSHIP, Mich., Aug. 12, 2008 — Visteon Corporation (NYSE: VC) and Boston Acoustics will deliver refined performance in the audio system that accents the redesigned 2010 Chevrolet Camaro – a performance car that embodies the passion of the past and present.

The two companies are engineering a premium audio system for the Camaro’s re-launch that is tailored to suit the Camaro’s legacy – starting with precision speaker design. Boston Acoustics, creator of The Boston Sound for home stereo systems, is engineering speakers for the Camaro that are robust enough to handle high power and loud play, yet capable of reproducing the finest acoustic details. Powering those speakers is Visteon’s high performance and state of the art, DSP amplifier. From there, audio integration engineers from Visteon and Boston Acoustics carefully tailor the equalization to the Camaro’s specific interior configurations to accurately reproduce the Boston Sound within the vehicle – transforming the vehicle into an acoustically ideal soundstage. Fabrics, seat placement and instrument panel materials are just a few of the many variables considered when fine-tuning the quality of sound reproduction for the vehicle’s interior.

Offered as an option, the premium Boston Acoustics audio system will allow consumers to hearken back to glory days of Motown or experience the pulsation of today’s techno music with digital-signal-processing enhanced sound quality that was unheard of until now.

“Visteon is honored to play such an important role in the redesign of a true classic,” said Julie Fream, vice president, Visteon GM customer group. “Using advanced automotive audio technologies, Visteon and Boston Acoustics are creating a polished, dimensional sound stage that will provide as powerful an impact as the re-introduction of this iconic vehicle. This is truly a sports car for the 21st century.”

“We are pleased that GM has introduced The Boston Sound to its vehicle in North America, and we know that the Camaro and Boston Acoustics will make beautiful music together,” said Michael J. Maloney, president of D&M Holdings OEM, Global Marketing Group, which includes the Boston Acoustics brand. “As consumers raise their expectations for great sound in their vehicles, Boston Acoustics is ready to meet those demands,” he said.

About Visteon
Visteon Corporation is a leading global automotive supplier that designs, engineers and manufactures innovative climate, interior, electronic and lighting products for vehicle manufacturers, and also provides a range of products and services to aftermarket customers. With corporate offices in Van Buren Township, Mich. (U.S.); Shanghai, China; and Kerpen, Germany; the company has facilities in 26 countries and employs approximately 38,500 people.

About Boston Acoustics
Founded in 1979, Boston Acoustics, Inc. designs, manufactures and markets high performance audio systems for use in home music and audio-video systems; after-market and OEM automotive systems; and custom built-in audio systems. Highly regarded for creating The Boston Sound™, the company is renowned for delivering superior, competitively priced products emphasizing performance, consistency and value. For further information, visit the company's web site at www.bostonacoustics.com . Boston Acoustics is a D&M Holdings Inc. company.

About D&M Holdings Inc.
D&M Holdings Inc. (TSE I: 6735) is based in Kawasaki, Japan and owns the Denon, Marantz, McIntosh Laboratory, Boston Acoustics, Snell Acoustics, D&M Professional, D&M Premium Sound Solutions, Denon DJ, ReplayTVâ and Escientâ brands. Denon, Marantz, McIntosh and D&M Professional are global industry leaders in the specialist home theater, audio/video consumer electronics or professional audio markets, with a strong and long-standing heritage of manufacturing and marketing high-performance audio and video components. Boston Acoustics, with its signature The Boston Sound, is a leader in premium loudspeakers for home and automotive audio markets. Snell is a super premium speaker brand. The ReplayTV and Escient brands represent award-winning technologies in digital home entertainment. D&M Premium Sound Solutions manufactures high-quality, Hi-Fi audio products for the B2B automotive and consumer electronics markets. Additional information is available at www.dm-holdings.com.

Mr Twisty 08-13-2008 08:57 AM

They should mix a cd that goes with the car and shows off the system, similar to a IMAX sound test.

radz28 08-13-2008 09:06 AM

Does this mean GM is going to put the Owner's Manual information and stereo information on CD like they did in 4th. Gens, LOL. Actually, that would be pretty cool.

Nice find. I can't wait to hear what they come up with :)

Camaro68 08-13-2008 09:15 AM

Awesome
 
Great muscle car, no number 1 muscle car and a sound
system to match :happyanim: :drool: :bow: :clap:

RCowan 08-13-2008 09:20 AM

That's a lot of words without saying anything. I'm sure it will sound better than the system in my 4th gen convertible. :barf:

bigralph 08-13-2008 09:22 AM

Nice!!!!

Mike C 08-13-2008 09:25 AM

I'll keep my eyes and ears open, if they have a test vehicle around here I'll let you know how it sounds....

B2E2RUN 08-13-2008 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterCamaro69 (Post 111443)
They should mix a cd that goes with the car and shows off the system, similar to a IMAX sound test.

My '95 came with a disk like this to "show off" the Bose system.

Captain Awesome 08-13-2008 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike C (Post 111456)
I'll keep my eyes and ears open, if they have a test vehicle around here I'll let you know how it sounds....

Make sure you take plenty of photos!
;)

Congoman775 08-13-2008 11:44 AM

definately an ungrade i will be investing in.

drivingincamaro 08-13-2008 01:23 PM

awsome one question tho will the 2009 camaro have a ipod jack?


will a psp hook up to a ipod or mp3 jack?

Muscle Master 08-13-2008 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drivingincamaro (Post 111613)
awsome one question tho will the 2009 camaro have a ipod jack?


will a psp hook up to a ipod or mp3 jack?


It should but I think you have to nav the music yourself. and play it from the pSP while its hooked up

AirGoya 08-13-2008 03:57 PM

That's it, I'm convinced!

2010_5thgen 08-13-2008 04:51 PM

ive never heard boston accoustics, how are they in comparance to bose?

balonywolf 08-13-2008 06:37 PM

As long as I can do a direct connection from my iPod to the stereo via the docking cable, I'm happy. That's half the reason I shelled out the money for an iPod Touch.

Captain Awesome 08-13-2008 06:49 PM

Hopefully, it will work with thumbdrives and navigate right from the steering wheel controls. Who wants to shell out of an iPlod when a thumbdrive is so much less apt to attract theives?

STEVE LS3 SS RS 08-13-2008 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2010_5thgen (Post 111722)
ive never heard boston accoustics, how are they in comparance to bose?

Bose are a JOKE compared to Boston Acoustics, NO comparison.


I hope it sounds 1/2 as good as my DVD Audio system in my 2008 Acura TL-S.

Great news!!!

marticus24 08-13-2008 07:15 PM

I haven't heard many "premium" sound systems, but I can say that the one I paid extra for in my '07 Grand Prix, the Monsoon system, sounds horrendous. It's all bass, muddy bass at that, and absolutely nothing at the top. I'm confident this will surpass my GP's sound.

fastball 08-13-2008 07:36 PM

I have had BA's in my car since I bought it new 9 years ago, and swear by the speakers...... my only concern is, whether the Boston Accoustic system in the Camaro will utilize polypropolyne surrounds or if they will cut costs by using foam surrounds.

Anyone with specific knowledge on the BA system going into the Camaro care to elaborate?

Optimus Prime 08-13-2008 09:07 PM

I used to be a salesman at a local chain in north Georgia called HiFi Buys. I don't even think they're around any more, but they specialized in mid- to high- end home theater/audio and car audio equipment, and Boston Acoustics was one of the better brands there. I'd never heard of them until I got that job, and BA's sound is very impressive to say the least!

gunslinger 08-13-2008 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2010_5thgen (Post 111722)
ive never heard boston accoustics, how are they in comparance to bose?

There is only ONE consensus among the many veteran Audiophiles, and that is....



Bose is CRAP! Bose is no better than any other basic, retail-store, audio equipment brand, except for their marketing department.

The Camaro's system will be worlds beyond what Bose could ever offer.

Both Boston Acoustics and D&M Holdings (which owns big names like Marantz and Denon) are very respected names in the Home Audio world!

pruettfan 08-14-2008 01:08 AM

Interesting, Visteon was actually formerly owned by Ford but was spun off in the late 90's as a seperate corportation. I have noticed that they have been doing more business with GM but this appears to be the biggest project I am aware of.

Congoman775 08-14-2008 02:37 AM

How does Boston A. Compare to Harmon and Kardon??

TAG UR IT 08-14-2008 02:54 AM

First, Mike....:bow: excellent find.

That is like the icing on the cake.:happyanim:

Quote:

Originally Posted by drivingincamaro (Post 111613)
awsome one question tho will the 2009 camaro have a ipod jack?


will a psp hook up to a ipod or mp3 jack?

Yes and I'm not sure.
Quote:

Originally Posted by AirGoya (Post 111709)
That's it, I'm convinced!

:D This is exactly why I was hoping for BA years ago!
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2010_5thgen (Post 111722)
ive never heard boston accoustics, how are they in comparance to bose?

BA:D Bose:) Like my comparison? I mean, I like Bose, but <<<that's how much I like BA.
Quote:

Originally Posted by STEVE LS3 SS RS (Post 111780)
Bose are a JOKE compared to Boston Acoustics, NO comparison.

Great news!!!

:drinking:
Quote:

Originally Posted by gunslinger (Post 111819)
Both Boston Acoustics and D&M Holdings (which owns big names like Marantz and Denon) are very respected names in the Home Audio world!

Don't forget McIntosh! These are GREAT names....leading home audio. Just go and price a Marantz receiver or Denon receiver compared to a .....Yamaha, Pioneer, Sony, etc. Price is much higher due to quality of product. You will see.;)

And I almost forgot..........:happyanim:

Supermans 08-14-2008 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gunslinger (Post 111819)
There is only ONE consensus among the many veteran Audiophiles, and that is....



Bose is CRAP! Bose is no better than any other basic, retail-store, audio equipment brand, except for their marketing department.

The Camaro's system will be worlds beyond what Bose could ever offer.

Both Boston Acoustics and D&M Holdings (which owns big names like Marantz and Denon) are very respected names in the Home Audio world!


Bose isn't crap.. They do have high end audio products that match and compete with anything Boston Acoustics can throw at it and in blind audio tests you would be hard pressed to be able to consistently tell which one is which playing the same uncompressed sound. Boston Acoustics and D&M Holdings are highly respected and would also get a tainted image if they were as large a company as Bose to those who like products that hold a higher perceived quality due to the thought that they are put together in a better fashion using better parts (made in America which they were).. However let me tell you a dirty secret of the speaker industry..Now that Japanese company D&M Holdings bought out B & A, China sweatshops are the ones putting together Boston Acoustic speakers as well in today's world just as Bose does. This however is not going to stop me from ordering these speakers in my new Camaro as I want a premium sound system. However if Bose was the company used I'd be equally as happy and also order them..

SilverTurtle 08-14-2008 05:16 AM

center console USB port and aux jack in IVER car

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...8/IMG_4409.jpg

JEFF2010SSMANUAL 08-14-2008 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastball (Post 111790)
I have had BA's in my car since I bought it new 9 years ago, and swear by the speakers...... my only concern is, whether the Boston Accoustic system in the Camaro will utilize polypropolyne surrounds or if they will cut costs by using foam surrounds.

Anyone with specific knowledge on the BA system going into the Camaro care to elaborate?

You mean butyl rubber surrounds, which last 10x longer then foam.

I hope so.

rcreechssr 08-14-2008 05:31 AM

IMO GM has continually improved the sound system designs over the last 10 years in many of their vehicles. I'm glad to hear that the consumer has made it clear to the manufacturers that a high quality sound system is important and desirable. I really like whats going on with the MP3 and iPod interfaces. Can't wait to see this new system in the Camaro. :thumbsup:

TAG UR IT 08-14-2008 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverTurtle (Post 112083)
center console USB port and aux jack in IVER car

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...8/IMG_4409.jpg

Well, THERE it is!:D

fastball 08-14-2008 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JEFF2010SSMANUAL (Post 112084)
You mean butyl rubber surrounds, which last 10x longer then foam.

I hope so.


Yes. That's what I meant.

They also make for tighter bass and just better overall sound quality.

Mindz 08-14-2008 07:44 PM

Where'd you get that pic silver? :evil:

2KZ28_For_Now 08-15-2008 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mindz (Post 112409)
Where'd you get that pic silver? :evil:


:word: (Mission Impossible Theme Plays in the background)

"I could tell you, but then I'd have to KILL you." :paddle: :D

http://www.epinions.com/content_113433611908

BA produces components that satisfy many audiophiles. Let's hope that the Visteon DSP amp components are worthy of the BA brand.

I think they will be.

Visteon -- give us more details please!

TAG UR IT 08-15-2008 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mindz (Post 112409)
Where'd you get that pic silver? :evil:

I could tell you...but my names not "silver." :D

Mike C 08-15-2008 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2KZ28_For_Now (Post 112614)
Visteon -- give us more details please!

That's all I know right now. I'll keep my a lookout for more info. My audio contact is out until Monday. But remember, I can't say anything until it is publicly released. Don't want any :suburban: coming after me....

Mr Twisty 08-15-2008 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TAG UR IT (Post 112638)
I could tell you...but my names not "silver." :D

Hey TAG where did silver get that pic?:cool:

JEFF2010SSMANUAL 08-15-2008 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastball (Post 112384)
Yes. That's what I meant.

They also make for tighter bass and just better overall sound quality.

Cool. They are much better. I have replaced foam surrounds and its NO fun.
I have a pair of 1990 HUGE Polk Audio $2000 home speakers that sound and look new. When Polk made SDA MONSTERS.

RCowan 08-15-2008 08:44 AM

Hmmmm those jack locations are perfect....if your center console is always empty.

camaros and vettes 08-16-2008 12:56 AM

Both are good in different areas. Bose is close to the top of the line in home audio. I have a Bose surround sound in my house, it sounds amazing. I also have the Bose system in my vette, and it sounds ok, but BA sounds better in the car world. i have a truck with all after market BA speakers in it, and the Bose system in my car cant touch it.

fastball 08-16-2008 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supermans (Post 112081)
Bose isn't crap...

I am an electronic technician and worked for Best Buy for 13 years (not in Geek Squad - I have an associates degree in electronics, and I worked in a regional service center, not a store - I am factory authorized and trained to repair to component level, read and understand schematics, use oscilloscopes and volt meters, and replace 500 pin surface mount microprocessors as well as any other electronic component on a circuit board).

Bose was one of the manufacturers we laughed at, because their marketing is about the best in the world. There is no doubt they do an excellent job in making people believe they engineer high end, high quality stuff. But when you actually take their stuff appart, and see how it's made, it will make you laugh.

Their systems are waaaaaay overpriced - the 3-2-1 system is over 1500 bucks and a Yamaha theater system is twice as nice for half the price. But the kicker is Bose doesn't even use discrete outputs - they use the PAL7001 amplifier IC you will find in a 150.00 Pioneer car CD head unit!!!! Their circuit boards are cheap, thin, and flimsy, they don't use any high current B+ rails (just the thin circuit board traces - real amps use solid copper or even gold bars soldered in to the circuit board for high current and low signal loss).

Bose does a great job with their marketing, and telling people how the "wave radio" and "virtual surround" works with only two little speakers and a sub.

But true high end home theater really starts with McIntosh like Tag said. I saw a demo from one of their factory engineers where he ran a 60 Hz sine wave into the amp, hooked a regular home vaccum cleaner into the outputs of the amp, and turned up the amp and ran the 6 amp vaccum off the outputs! Try that with a Bose :bellyroll:

As for my home theater, I use an Adcom GTP-830 pre-amp, 4 AudioSource power amps (the two fronts and center are each briged mono at 50 watts rms, 200 pk per channel and the rears are run with a larger 400 watt amp, 200/channel stereo), Pinnacle speakers and a BCI 10" 200 watt sub.

All in all its about 1200 watts pk, 300 rms.

Yeah, it gets the job done :D

JEFF2010SSMANUAL 08-16-2008 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastball (Post 113384)
I am an electronic technician and worked for Best Buy for 13 years (not in Geek Squad - I have an associates degree in electronics, and I worked in a regional service center, not a store - I am factory authorized and trained to repair to component level, read and understand schematics, use oscilloscopes and volt meters, and replace 500 pin surface mount microprocessors as well as any other electronic component on a circuit board).

Bose was one of the manufacturers we laughed at, because their marketing is about the best in the world. There is no doubt they do an excellent job in making people believe they engineer high end, high quality stuff. But when you actually take their stuff appart, and see how it's made, it will make you laugh.

Their systems are waaaaaay overpriced - the 3-2-1 system is over 1500 bucks and a Yamaha theater system is twice as nice for half the price. But the kicker is Bose doesn't even use discrete outputs - they use the PAL7001 amplifier IC you will find in a 150.00 Pioneer car CD head unit!!!! Their circuit boards are cheap, thin, and flimsy, they don't use any high current B+ rails (just the thin circuit board traces - real amps use solid copper or even gold bars soldered in to the circuit board for high current and low signal loss).

Bose does a great job with their marketing, and telling people how the "wave radio" and "virtual surround" works with only two little speakers and a sub.

But true high end home theater really starts with McIntosh like Tag said. I saw a demo from one of their factory engineers where he ran a 60 Hz sine wave into the amp, hooked a regular home vaccum cleaner into the outputs of the amp, and turned up the amp and ran the 6 amp vaccum off the outputs! Try that with a Bose :bellyroll:

As for my home theater, I use an Adcom GTP-830 pre-amp, 4 AudioSource power amps (the two fronts and center are each briged mono at 50 watts rms, 200 pk per channel and the rears are run with a larger 400 watt amp, 200/channel stereo), Pinnacle speakers and a BCI 10" 200 watt sub.

All in all its about 1200 watts pk, 300 rms.

Yeah, it gets the job done :D




You know your stuff.

I have always told people that BOSE SUCK. 3" paper cone mid-ranges and cheap tweeters. A JOKE IMHO.


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