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ForrGump 04-26-2013 06:39 AM

These forums scare me!
 
:confused0068:

TMI or not enough?
As a recent new purchaser of a 2012 vert I have read many many posts about problems, issues...etc. In contrast, I have also read a few positive posts concerning convertables. I do realize that the majority of satisfied customers will, most likely, never visit or post in these forums.

My question is, where do I find the date of manufacture for my vehicle? I ran the VIN number only to see that it was built in Canada but no date. My concern is if my new car was built in the later part of the year in the hopes that some of these issues I have read about concerning convertables have been taken care of.

VIN: 2G1FK3DJ6C9161545

Thanks

MMC 04-26-2013 07:09 AM

The date is on the drivers door plate. The RPO codes and workbench order number is in the trunk, drivers side under the mat. :chevy:

tonyko1 04-26-2013 07:39 AM

Yes, one satisified customer may tell one person, but an unsatisfied one will tell 100.

My top is fine, was produced in 1/12.........supposedly, all 2012's after 4/12 were where the "Fix" was done for the top. Whatever.

I too am glad I didn't see this forum before getting my "vert". It would have scared me away as well. Now I look at every ragtop, regardless of make. It is a flexible thing, not rigid steel. As long as mine seals correctly, I am happy. I don't have but a crease that disappears after a day with the top up and no "worrisome wear marks".

I am going to enjoy the car and if I have to replace the top, so be it. Car looks so cool with the top down, can't imagine my car with a hardtop.

HDRDTD 04-26-2013 07:47 AM

If you want a general idea of when the car was built, open the hood, on the passenger side, look down at the frame rail. There should be a stcker on the frame rail with a date on it. It's actually the date that particular sub-assembley was made, but it should be within a few days of the cars overall build date.

ForrGump 04-26-2013 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyko1 (Post 6471609)
I am going to enjoy the car and if I have to replace the top, so be it. Car looks so cool with the top down, can't imagine my car with a hardtop.

Agreed. The car is mine now and it too will be enjoyed.
I hate to learn from others expense especially when this expense comes with frustrations and aggrevations.
Let's just say that my "awarness" is at a heightned state concerning potential issues.

Also, thanks for DOM info. I'm out of town currently and will check out the date upon my return.

FG

walters477 04-26-2013 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyko1 (Post 6471609)
Yes, one satisified customer may tell one person, but an unsatisfied one will tell 100.

My top is fine, was produced in 1/12.........supposedly, all 2012's after 4/12 were where the "Fix" was done for the top. Whatever.

I too am glad I didn't see this forum before getting my "vert". It would have scared me away as well. Now I look at every ragtop, regardless of make. It is a flexible thing, not rigid steel. As long as mine seals correctly, I am happy. I don't have but a crease that disappears after a day with the top up and no "worrisome wear marks".

I am going to enjoy the car and if I have to replace the top, so be it. Car looks so cool with the top down, can't imagine my car with a hardtop.

I feel the same as you do, mine was built 8/11 we had 10,000 trouble free miles until I put something in the truck that interfeared with the fifth bow. Had to have that replaced plus they put the water bag in and did it all under warranty even tho it was my fault. I think to many people are bashing the camaro convertible, I would drive mine even if it didn't have a top. Love the car

Angrybird 12 04-26-2013 12:54 PM

I'm happy with my 2012 Vert that was built in August 2011.

If you want a exact date you can check out this thread,
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=291671

You can also ask your dealer to get the build sheet for your car if you bought it new.

pannhead51 04-26-2013 03:26 PM

I love my vert.... no complaints. :thumb:

Baba 04-26-2013 03:30 PM

Sticker on the inside, door jam will give you the month and year built. You can go to your Chevy dealer's service dept. and give them the VIN and ask them to print a "build sheet" for you which will have the RPO codes (of all the equipment that your vehicle came with from the factory) and it should give you the DATE on which your Camaro was built (date, month & year).

Very happy 2011 'vert owner here. Aside from the "wave" in the top, bilaterally and a loose-fitting brake reservoir cap which I had replaced under warranty last week, I've not had any problems of any kind, thus far. Very, very happy with my 2011 Camaro Convertible.

Bcarr 04-26-2013 10:14 PM

My build date for my 2012 is 11/11. I haven't had any problems yet. Knock on wood of course...

DFWHD 04-26-2013 11:19 PM

My vert was born on April 13, 2012 and I've got absolutely no top issues. I love it more each day I get to drive it

vanlieremead 04-26-2013 11:22 PM

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Guys,

I also bought the vert before reading through these forums. And I have had the 5th bow break and a new top. But I still love the car. I've had it 2 years now and it runs better (or as well) than new. I love it when the dealer writes 'alignment perfect' on the checks. And the car fits me well.

I still have people today give my red jewel looks and comments. And I look at all kinds of other tops and they all have problems, one way or another. The Stang tops are vinyl, ours are a nice cloth which I preferred when I purchased the car.

I hope I didn't overload you with too many pics.

babytiger 04-27-2013 08:30 AM

We never had a minutes trouble with ours.
And remember these forums consist of .01% of actual owners. (give or take)
Like others have said, people always complain if given the opportunity.

davidcroft 04-27-2013 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForrGump (Post 6471486)
:confused0068:


My question is, where do I find the date of manufacture for my vehicle? I ran the VIN number only to see that it was built in Canada but no date. My concern is if my new car was built in the later part of the year in the hopes that some of these issues I have read about concerning convertables have been taken care of.

VIN: 2G1FK3DJ6C9161545

Thanks

Your car was built on January 4th 2012.

You've had your airbag light reprogram/recall done and you've had a daytime running light bulb replaced under warranty!:thumb:

Don't worry about all the issues. Some people on this forum are more picky than others and demand a recall when a grasshopper took a dump on their hood and caused a microscopic clear coat peeling:sad0147:


I'm obviously exaggerating. Enjoy your convertible and you have lots of warranty left!!

bulllett 04-27-2013 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidcroft (Post 6475654)
Don't worry about all the issues. Some people on this forum are more picky than others !

Yeah, how dare some people get mad about bows breaking and water filling up floors and holes and tops literally popping out and......meh, I'll just quote myself;

Quote:

Originally Posted by bulllett (Post 6376818)
Let's try to put this to bed.......again.

As has been said on here, many, many, many times, the problems haven't been in the problem itself (as in the tops being defective), the problems have been in the way they were addressed by the dealerships AND GM (for those that don't know, you can kick back a couple of years and see the start of the answers that were given to those that had problems. I won't go through all that here).

But the good news is, it appears that GM has started to come around and NOT be blatantly argumentative with these problems and are starting to back off blaming the customer with the "normal" comments. Is it because a lot of us who had problems continued to put pressure on? Possibly. Is it because many who have problems now also have information in hand to address the problems? Could be. We are now seeing a bit more often an actual conversation between customer and dealership about a strategy to address the problem. As opposed to a confrontation about it not even being a problem (or a problem caused by the customer)

But regardless of reasons, you now have information on these problems to base your decisions upon. Information is power and you need to decide if you can put up with these issues if you are one of the "lucky" ones that get them.

As far as the numbers of cars with problems; unless GM is willing to give out information and numbers, we'll never know the extent of the problem. Those that say it is very limited point to the people that have no problem. Those that say its extensive, point to the people that do have problems. Suffice it to say, that there is a known problem out there. The extent of which is unknown but it is there.

So deal the problems IF you get them, but in the mean time, enjoy.

I could go over the problems that were encountered, but I believe the OP may have already done his/her homework. Hence an informed decision. If they run into a problem, then they will have the information to deal with it. These posts on problems shouldn't be meant to scare you, as much as have an informed decision.

Honestly the arrogance and insensitivity that some on here have toward those that have had problems baffles me. That kind of thinking is like an attitude to somebody who {had something bad happen to them, that doesn't happen to a lot of people - I didn't like my choice of subject matter for the analogy so I edited it}; "well it hasn't happened to me, and it doesn't happen to a lot of people. So I don't see what those people are whining about".

95birdible 04-27-2013 05:42 PM

:word:
Thanks for the post Bulllett. I have been looking at this all day and biting my tongue not to respond. If some think 101 days out of service in less than 3 months on the road is a good thing, so be it and more power to them. By my count so far, by us helping others, over 20 people have received a buy back from the help we as previous problem owners have given them. Hence the reason we have been posting the issues. Not to scare anyone away, to help them be informed about what they possibly could encounter with their car and how to go about getting it fixed. Yes, sometimes we do bitch about it also. It is human to be pissed off when you spend 40 grand of your hard earned money on a fun car only to have it go to shit.
I took mine out for the first time in 6 months today. Permagrin ear to ear. Heck, she is in the garage now and I am still smiling.

rubbersoul84 04-27-2013 09:23 PM

My 2012 has a 4/11 build date. I've had the top replaced once, but that's the only problem I've had. I love my car and am so glad we bought it!

Michael Rophone 04-27-2013 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vanlieremead (Post 6475045)
I still have people today give my red jewel looks and comments. And I look at all kinds of other tops and they all have problems, one way or another. The Stang tops are vinyl, ours are a nice cloth which I preferred when I purchased the car.

I hope I didn't overload you with too many pics.

Beautiful chariot. :thumbsup:

The V6 Mustang tops are vinyl. The V8 tops are cloth. (just FYI) ;)

Bcarr 04-27-2013 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bulllett (Post 6475794)
Yeah, how dare some people get mad about bows breaking and water filling up floors and holes and tops literally popping out and......meh, I'll just quote myself;



I could go over the problems that were encountered, but I believe the OP may have already done his/her homework. Hence an informed decision. If they run into a problem, then they will have the information to deal with it. These posts on problems shouldn't be meant to scare you, as much as have an informed decision.

Honestly the arrogance and insensitivity that some on here have toward those that have had problems baffles me. That kind of thinking is like an attitude to somebody who {had something bad happen to them, that doesn't happen to a lot of people - I didn't like my choice of subject matter for the analogy so I edited it}; "well it hasn't happened to me, and it doesn't happen to a lot of people. So I don't see what those people are whining about".

I'm sorry you had a problem but I'm tired of people that have had issues coming on this forum (and others) and acting as if all of these convertibles are bad. You had an issue and had it repaired. Get over it and move on.

bulllett 04-28-2013 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bcarr (Post 6477980)
I'm sorry you had a problem but I'm tired of people that have had issues coming on this forum (and others) and acting as if all of these convertibles are bad. You had an issue and had it repaired. Get over it and move on.

Lol, baffles.

The "ostrich" strategy or the "I got mine" strategy just doesn't suit me. I'll continue to help others.

But thanks for the advice.

Earthshaker6 04-28-2013 07:07 AM

The funny part is not the fact that happy customers don't say anything but unhappy customers do...it is more that happy customers consolidate their responses into minimum post for easier reference...unhappy customers thread jack, start multiple threads, and continue to throw their horror stories out to make sure every Camaro owner hears them. This is their "Getting GM Back" method. As will all cars...there will be a few that have issues. I challenge anyone to go through the convertible forum without finding the same 3-5 names popping up bashing the convertible! Even on the happy convertible threads...there they are...the same 3-5 bashing the happy owners for not being mad with them! Over 16k miles in less than a year (before deploying) and had the top up and down more than a hooker...no issues. It could break the day I roll back into country and you know what? I would take it to the dealer, get it repaired, and enjoy the heck out of this thing!!!

davidcroft 04-28-2013 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Earthshaker6 (Post 6478520)
The funny part is not the fact that happy customers don't say anything but unhappy customers do...it is more that happy customers consolidate their responses into minimum post for easier reference...unhappy customers thread jack, start multiple threads, and continue to throw their horror stories out to make sure every Camaro owner hears them. This is their "Getting GM Back" method. As will all cars...there will be a few that have issues. I challenge anyone to go through the convertible forum without finding the same 3-5 names popping up bashing the convertible! Even on the happy convertible threads...there they are...the same 3-5 bashing the happy owners for not being mad with them! Over 16k miles in less than a year (before deploying) and had the top up and down more than a hooker...no issues. It could break the day I roll back into country and you know what? I would take it to the dealer, get it repaired, and enjoy the heck out of this thing!!!

:word:
It's not just the convertible forum too. The same people in the "other" subforums do the same thing. Thank you for your service and being real about whiny forum babies:thumb:

HPE 650 45th drop top? Is that a 1 of 1? One of my co-workers has a 45th drop top HPE600. He just did the 1LE 3.91 rear gear swap and :jaw:
You've got one hell of a ride!

Earthshaker6 04-28-2013 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidcroft (Post 6478643)
:word:
It's not just the convertible forum too. The same people in the "other" subforums do the same thing. Thank you for your service and being real about whiny forum babies:thumb:

HPE 650 45th drop top? Is that a 1 of 1? One of my co-workers has a 45th drop top HPE600. He just did the 1LE 3.91 rear gear swap and :jaw:
You've got one hell of a ride!

David

Thanks for all, I believe it is close to a 1 of 1 since this car had a total build number of 524...Hennessey does not do a lot of these packages each year...and she is getting painted 45th Anniversary stripes with ghost flames (in the gray portion of the stripes) starting 05 May. The paint will be done before I return home and take her to Camaros for Heroes in Fayetteville, NC!!! Trust me, your co-worker has a hell of a car also. I went with the 9" rear end package with 3.73 gears (as you know the rear end package includes one piece alluminum drive shaft and upgraded axles) I also have 6 signatures from GM reps from the fest last year...including FBodFather himself...and John Hennessey's signature across the brace over the engine. I will have her in Fayetteville and I am expected to make the Fest again! Hope to see you! Take care!

davidcroft 04-28-2013 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Earthshaker6 (Post 6478879)
David

Thanks for all, I believe it is close to a 1 of 1 since this car had a total build number of 524...Hennessey does not do a lot of these packages each year...and she is getting painted 45th Anniversary stripes with ghost flames (in the gray portion of the stripes) starting 05 May. The paint will be done before I return home and take her to Camaros for Heroes in Fayetteville, NC!!! Trust me, your co-worker has a hell of a car also. I went with the 9" rear end package with 3.73 gears (as you know the rear end package includes one piece alluminum drive shaft and upgraded axles) I also have 6 signatures from GM reps from the fest last year...including FBodFather himself...and John Hennessey's signature across the brace over the engine. I will have her in Fayetteville and I am expected to make the Fest again! Hope to see you! Take care!

AWESOME! I can never make the fest cause I am a slave to the dealership...we are actually a Hennessey dealer and John and I are on a first name basis. Unfortunately I can't afford his signature(or packages) on my car!:bellyroll:

The painted stripes sound like they are gonna be KILLER! def post up some pics when they are done. Your setup is sick:hail:

tonyko1 04-28-2013 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vanlieremead (Post 6475045)
Guys,

I also bought the vert before reading through these forums. And I have had the 5th bow break and a new top. But I still love the car. I've had it 2 years now and it runs better (or as well) than new. I love it when the dealer writes 'alignment perfect' on the checks. And the car fits me well.

I still have people today give my red jewel looks and comments. And I look at all kinds of other tops and they all have problems, one way or another. The Stang tops are vinyl, ours are a nice cloth which I preferred when I purchased the car.

I hope I didn't overload you with too many pics.

Love that color, your car is awesome, the desert background really sets it off! I had a choice of two IBM verts, one with tan top and beige leather or the black and I opted for the black as it is more subtle with the IBM. But your tan top really works!

Have admired your car on other posts, almost thought of trading in for your color on a 2013, but doing the trade-in math nixed that deal! Perhaps a 2015 Vette in that color....:headbang:

Best regards,

Tony

OrangeVert 05-02-2013 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Baba (Post 6473466)
...

Very happy 2011 'vert owner here. Aside from the "wave" in the top, bilaterally and a loose-fitting brake reservoir cap which I had replaced under warranty last week, I've not had any problems of any kind, thus far. Very, very happy with my 2011 Camaro Convertible.

Same here, Baba. Born on 5/20/11, no problems except rear wind noise and Hurst emblem on shifter sticks out on pass. side. Oh and peeling tonneau vinyl. Heck, are those really problems? It's not like the sheriff's knocking on my door to take my house. Just worries me the top warranty runs out in a year and is prone to issues ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by vanlieremead (Post 6475045)
...

I hope I didn't overload you with too many pics.

Nope. Sweet ride, beautiful color!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Rophone (Post 6477890)
Beautiful chariot. :thumbsup:

The V6 Mustang tops are vinyl. The V8 tops are cloth. (just FYI) ;)

Thanks, Michael. Rented a V6 'stang vert a month ago, and was surprised to find the vinyl top - and no back window switches in the car. Maybe I'm just dyed in the wool GM (not a bad thing), but after that the car doesn't interest me. Also some controls blocked switches on the dash - like parts of the car's design were added later. There have been some Fords I like, though - early '70s LTD, late '80s Cougar/TBird & Taurus. Drove 'em all, imvho - decent in their day.

ForrGump 05-02-2013 07:12 AM

I want to thank everyone's, either positive or negative response. I'm the type of person who likes as much info as possible and based on that I formulate my own opinion. And, as I learned after +24 years USCG service, opinions are like belly buttons....everyone has one!
Because of these forums I took my vert to the local dealer to establish a first time relationship. I had them check out the top...no problems so far, and to investigate a mystery noise under the vehicle around the exhaust. (As a side note I never heard the "rattle" noise...thank you US Government for dampening my hearing capability....my wife is the one who insisted that it was there.) Because of these forums I went in knowing there was a TSB issued concerning this noise. I never mentioned the TSB knowledge but waited for them to figure it out and they did.
I'll pick the car up today if the streets stay dry. :lol:
If there is an issue after that, I'll go back.
v/r,
FG

kdalters 05-02-2013 08:38 AM

As a current Toyota owner, I know all about recalls, service bulletins and service problems. I worked at a Chrysler dealership in the 70's & 80's.... talk about poor quality control! I purchased a 2012 Camaro Conv. ex- rent-a-car with 13,000 miles on it. I expect problems to show up. No big deal to me. Cars are mass produced on an assembly line... there are going to be mistakes made during all aspects of manufacture, be it in design, engineerng, assembly,shipping......you get the point. I love my Camaro, inherent flaws and all. Kerry.

Michael Rophone 05-02-2013 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeVert (Post 6494837)
Rented a V6 'stang vert a month ago, and was surprised to find the vinyl top - and no back window switches in the car.

There's nothing worse in 21st Century automotive than a vinyl top.

Mustang convertible back-window switches are the side-window switches held down a little longer. :thumb:
(just FYI, in case anyone else rents one :gossip: :laugh:)

Angrybird 12 05-02-2013 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForrGump (Post 6495207)
I want to thank everyone's, either positive or negative response. I'm the type of person who likes as much info as possible and based on that I formulate my own opinion. And, as I learned after +24 years USCG service, opinions are like belly buttons....everyone has one!
Because of these forums I took my vert to the local dealer to establish a first time relationship. I had them check out the top...no problems so far, and to investigate a mystery noise under the vehicle around the exhaust. (As a side note I never heard the "rattle" noise...thank you US Government for dampening my hearing capability....my wife is the one who insisted that it was there.) Because of these forums I went in knowing there was a TSB issued concerning this noise. I never mentioned the TSB knowledge but waited for them to figure it out and they did.
I'll pick the car up today if the streets stay dry. :lol:
If there is an issue after that, I'll go back.
v/r,
FG

Good attitude you have there. Thanks for your service. My Son is in the Airforce. He's been in since 2001.
Out Camaro is now going on 11 months since we bought it and almost 12,000 miles now. The recently it has been wonderful top down driving weather. I keep a close eye on my top and so far nothing really to report other than a few wrinkles and creases. I would guess I have cycled the top close to 800 times now. Just be aware of where problems usually crop up first and look them over once a week or so...
Enjoy your Convertible. I know my wife and I have enjoyed ours.

Chevrolet Customer Svc 05-02-2013 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForrGump (Post 6495207)
I want to thank everyone's, either positive or negative response. I'm the type of person who likes as much info as possible and based on that I formulate my own opinion. And, as I learned after +24 years USCG service, opinions are like belly buttons....everyone has one!
Because of these forums I took my vert to the local dealer to establish a first time relationship. I had them check out the top...no problems so far, and to investigate a mystery noise under the vehicle around the exhaust. (As a side note I never heard the "rattle" noise...thank you US Government for dampening my hearing capability....my wife is the one who insisted that it was there.) Because of these forums I went in knowing there was a TSB issued concerning this noise. I never mentioned the TSB knowledge but waited for them to figure it out and they did.
I'll pick the car up today if the streets stay dry. :lol:
If there is an issue after that, I'll go back.
v/r,
FG

Thanks for your service!

And glad to hear everything is fixed with your vehicle. Feel free to contact us anytime with your inquiries.

William R.
Chevrolet Customer Care

markas214 05-02-2013 09:02 PM

Only had mine a month and see nothing to worry about. This forum has made me more vigilant though and I notice I don't have the steel tension cord. Had some heavy rain and no issues there yet either. Regardless I'm under warranty. I'm hoping it does crap out in a year or two so I can get all of the latest revisions. That said, a 47 thousand dollar car should not have these issues, period! I buy a lot of new cars and know my dealer wil stand up for any issues. I spent close to 90 grand there last month as I bought my wife an Equinox too.

vanlieremead 05-12-2013 12:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyko1 (Post 6481205)
Love that color, your car is awesome, the desert background really sets it off! I had a choice of two IBM verts, one with tan top and beige leather or the black and I opted for the black as it is more subtle with the IBM. But your tan top really works!

Have admired your car on other posts, almost thought of trading in for your color on a 2013, but doing the trade-in math nixed that deal! Perhaps a 2015 Vette in that color....:headbang:

Best regards,

Tony

Hi Tony,

Thanks - its Jewell Red and is no longer in production. Crystal Red is made now which is pretty close. I love the Vette idea too. Really wonderful cockpit. But the Camaro seems to fit me really well and the ride is just fantastic. I still get comments on the car.

I always have loved the beige tops. I almost got white with beige but opted for this one. Here's another picture.

Also, happy Mother's day to everyone! Take your mom out in your Camaro if you are still lucky enough to have her.

Chris

Michael Rophone 05-12-2013 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by vanlieremead (Post 6533598)
Also, happy Mother's day to everyone! Take your mom out in your Camaro if you are still lucky enough to have her.

If you're lucky enough to have BOTH. :love:

OrangeVert 05-16-2013 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Rophone (Post 6495705)
There's nothing worse in 21st Century automotive than a vinyl top.

Mustang convertible back-window switches are the side-window switches held down a little longer. :thumb:
(just FYI, in case anyone else rents one :gossip: :laugh:)

Cool - thanks, Michael! I was surprised they would not put any in, goes to show I should have read the free manual. :-)

Angrybird 12 05-16-2013 08:14 AM

Well in two days we will have had ours for 11 months. It turned over 12,000 miles yesterday while driving with the top down. I don't think that one month has gone by that I haven't gotten to put top down at least once. I have enjoyed every minute of top down driving. I don't let other people's top problems effect my use of this wonderful car. If something happens to the top in the next two years or 24,000 miles I will deal with it then...
Keep the top down and the smiles up and enjoy it!

pannhead51 05-16-2013 09:20 AM

My 2013 2SS vert is at the dealer right now for the 5th bow, but I still love the car ...more so while it's still in it's warranty period. ;)

Chevrolet Customer Svc 05-16-2013 09:46 PM

Hello Angrybird 12!

So happy to hear you are enjoying your vehicle! Love the pictures! It's a great looking vehicle. Please let us know if you ever have any questions. We are here to help!

Jessica
Chevrolet Customer Care

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angrybird 12 (Post 6550433)
Well in two days we will have had ours for 11 months. It turned over 12,000 miles yesterday while driving with the top down. I don't think that one month has gone by that I haven't gotten to put top down at least once. I have enjoyed every minute of top down driving. I don't let other people's top problems effect my use of this wonderful car. If something happens to the top in the next two years or 24,000 miles I will deal with it then...
Keep the top down and the smiles up and enjoy it!


spikess581 05-17-2013 06:38 AM

Nothing to be afraid of if something goes wrong have it fixed. I had a crap load of top problems but stuck it out and glad I did!

tonyko1 05-17-2013 07:13 AM

Now I look at every convertible top, make and model not withstanding. I have seen the same conditions with Mustangs, and their tops seem to be much smaller in area. Point is, some tops are like new, others, not so much. Was at Dollar car rental the other day at the airport in Ohio, they had 6 Mustang convertibles in a row and 5 had perfect tops and one that looked like the cat crapped it out. ha.


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