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blazzin1 12-18-2012 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by L99BEN (Post 5931368)

Either way, it is an adjustment of the factory settings on the ECM, which in turn = loss of powertrain warranty in most cases (ask you local dealership to be sure).

L99BEN 12-18-2012 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by blazzin1 (Post 5931683)
Either way, it is an adjustment of the factory settings on the ECM, which in turn = loss of powertrain warranty in most cases (ask you local dealership to be sure).

I had my gears swapped on my 12' 5.0 with the speedo calibrated at the dealer and no effect on warranty. If I calibrated on my own using an SCT tuner for example, they may have had an issue with that since it involved a reflash.
I don't see how calibrating your a speedo would have an effect on your powertrain especially with a device specifically designed to calibrate the speedo only.

blazzin1 12-18-2012 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by L99BEN (Post 5932181)
I had my gears swapped on my 12' 5.0 with the speedo calibrated at the dealer and no effect on warranty. If I calibrated on my own using an SCT tuner for example, they may have had an issue with that since it involved a reflash.
I don't see how calibrating your a speedo would have an effect on your powertrain especially with a device specifically designed to calibrate the speedo only.

Like I said, go talk to your local dealership, there are a few that are more lenient than others on this subject. Maybe Ford had a different policy? I just know I've heard it on here many, many times....ANY change to the factory settings on the ECM is an automatic void of the powertrain warranty in most cases. Call up your service manager at your dealership......and let us know what he says.

L99BEN 12-18-2012 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by blazzin1 (Post 5932534)
Like I said, go talk to your local dealership, there are a few that are more lenient than others on this subject. Maybe Ford had a different policy? I just know I've heard it on here many, many times....ANY change to the factory settings on the ECM is an automatic void of the powertrain warranty in most cases. Call up your service manager at your dealership......and let us know what he says.

I hear you and will look into it with my dealer but nothing automatically voids your whole warranty just like that.

jdogscam2013 12-20-2012 11:26 PM

I had a stock Formula in 1987, with a rare 3.73 gear option from the factory with a 350 tuned port injection and the car was freaky fast for the era. Rear end gears help a LOT. I would love to get another 3.73 with my 5th gen. It would make a difference.

SPOOKYGUNNER 12-24-2012 03:08 PM

DANHR
THANKS FOR THE INFO FROM U AND EVERY ONE
SPOOKYGUNNER

Kronix 12-25-2012 11:30 PM

Now that the 1LE has the 3:91 gears, I can't see why the dealer can't install then, while still maintaining the powertrain warranty, but then again like most have said I guess it depends on the dealer, but it's worth a shot.

L99BEN 12-26-2012 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Kronix (Post 5956706)
Now that the 1LE has the 3:91 gears, I can't see why the dealer can't install then, while still maintaining the powertrain warranty, but then again like most have said I guess it depends on the dealer, but it's worth a shot.

You would think so and probably only for the manual and not auto since the 1LE only comes in manual :iono:
I had 3.73's installed in my 12 5.0 ( a factory option)and the dealer was cool about the overall powertrain warranty but if I had any issues with my rear end it would be on my dime...
Also make sure to find someone that knows what they're doing with gear installs. Ive had it done by so call experience professionals (one a dealer)and both times they made noise loud enough to hear over the radio.:mad0259:

PalmerGA 06-27-2013 11:24 AM

Many thanks to danhr for this thread. I have a couple of questions as a result of all this good info.

1. So... the stock/factory gears in my 2013 SS L99 Coupe are 3.27s?
2a. Assuming the answer to #1 is yes, if I want "quicker" 1/4 miles times I should go to 3.47s or 3.73s?
2b. Which gears are optimal for increased times with excellent reliability?
3. For highway cruising (I take frequent trips), how will the higher gears (3.47s or 3.73s) affect MPGs, road noise, etc.

Thanks for any input.

IneedAZ 06-27-2013 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by PalmerGA (Post 6723062)
Many thanks to danhr for this thread. I have a couple of questions as a result of all this good info.

1. So... the stock/factory gears in my 2013 SS L99 Coupe are 3.27s?
2a. Assuming the answer to #1 is yes, if I want "quicker" 1/4 miles times I should go to 3.47s or 3.73s?
2b. Which gears are optimal for increased times with excellent reliability?
3. For highway cruising (I take frequent trips), how will the higher gears (3.47s or 3.73s) affect MPGs, road noise, etc.

Thanks for any input.

i went from 3.27 to 3.73 and saw appx 250rpm difference going 70

GQ4Life 06-27-2013 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by PalmerGA (Post 6723062)
Many thanks to danhr for this thread. I have a couple of questions as a result of all this good info.

1. So... the stock/factory gears in my 2013 SS L99 Coupe are 3.27s?
2a. Assuming the answer to #1 is yes, if I want "quicker" 1/4 miles times I should go to 3.47s or 3.73s?
2b. Which gears are optimal for increased times with excellent reliability?
3. For highway cruising (I take frequent trips), how will the higher gears (3.47s or 3.73s) affect MPGs, road noise, etc.

Thanks for any input.

If u have the traction 3.73 will. Help u getting out the hole a lot

i run 4.10s which make my gearing about the same auto with 3.73.. fine daily driving. I do 25k a year. MPG went down like 1 or 2.. considering these cars have wide gears its fine

aperfectcircle1992 09-23-2013 08:19 PM

I'm looking for the torque spec for the rearend end caps and back lash

FRANK121 11-13-2013 01:16 PM

wow .... I'm all confused :frusty:

I already have a supercharger and a stall convertor .... would I see or feel anything by changing the gears on My A6 SS? Was going to try and get the 3.91's but now they are on back order and from this It sounds like I'm wasting my money with the whipple and stall already there:doh:

jdsblueray2013 01-29-2014 07:16 PM

Wow man I forgot about that song, Bitchin Camaro, by the dead milkmen, remember hearing that for the first time back in the 80's when a buddy of mine with an 86 Mustang GT, brought a cassette into my car which was an 87 Formula 350, he said you have to hear this song by the DEAD MILKMEN, I thought it was a very cool song,
and was the last thing I expected to hear from a punk band like that! Thanks for posting it, brings back cool memories!


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