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awfarley 05-31-2012 01:06 PM

Nice find!

I think I'll stick to running 87 though :)

PalmerGA 05-31-2012 01:13 PM

Thanks Hoolie.

Ocikat 05-31-2012 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonzmaro (Post 5048005)
http://gmpowertrain.com/PowertrainFi..._LFX%20V-6.doc

Learned a few things I did not know. This is simply a GREAT engine. :clap: GM


Thanks for posting


As far as the E85 ? it states in the Doc. posted...........
E85 Flex-Fuel Capability
E85 is a clean-burning, domestically produced alternative fuel composed of 85 percent ethanol alcohol and 15 percent gasoline. Ethanol is renewable and produces fewer greenhouse gas emissions in the combustion process. It can be produced from various feed stocks, including corn and wheat stalks, forestry and agricultural waste and even municipal waste.

The 3.6L’s flex-fuel technology is both sophisticated and durable. Hardware changes are limited to the injectors with a higher maximum flow rating. Because ethanol has fewer BTUs (less energy) than the same volume of gasoline, more fuel is required to produce the same horsepower at wide-open throttle.

A special fuel sensor is not required for the LFX engine; it uses a “virtual sensor” within the Engine Control Module that takes readings from the oxygen sensors, fuel level sensor and vehicle speed sensors to adjust the length of time the fuel injectors open for the type of fuel used.

I would assume from this that the engine is capable of using E85 but that the injectors would need to be changed to provide the proper fuel ratio

Jonzmaro 06-01-2012 05:31 AM

Wow, I really thought the car was ready (no mods) to run E85. I thought I actually heard that on a video??

MediumLabowski 06-02-2012 12:39 AM

The 2012 LFX engine is E85 capable. Check the window sticker, check the white sheets. A chick at GM customer service doesn't know crap, she doesn't reference tech data. I had to take my salesman to school too when I bought the car, most salesmen don't know s#@t either. In the manual it says (pg 9-46) not to run e85 in engines not designed for it, ie the V8, the LFX is designed for it.

The "85" in E85 is not the octane, it's a percentage... 85% ethanol. The octane rating of E85 is above 100.

coloeb 06-02-2012 10:32 PM

Recommended Fuel
If the vehicle has the 3.6L V6 engine

(VIN Code 3), use regular unleaded
gasoline with a posted octane rating
of 87 or higher. If the octane rating
is less than 87, an audible knocking
noise, commonly referred to as
spark knock, might be heard when
driving. If this occurs, use a
gasoline rated at 87 octane or
higher as soon as possible. If heavy
knocking is heard when using
gasoline rated at 87 octane or

higher, the engine needs service

Gasolines containing oxygenates,
such as ethers and ethanol, and
reformulated gasolines might be
available in your area. We
recommend that you use these
gasolines, if they comply with the
specifications described earlier.
However, E85 (85% ethanol) and
other fuels containing more than
15% ethanol must not be used in
vehicles that were not designed for
those fuels.


Notice:
This vehicle was not

designed for fuel that contains
methanol. Do not use fuel
containing methanol. It can
corrode metal parts in the fuel
system and also damage plastic
and rubber parts. That damage
would not be covered under the
vehicle warranty.

For the 2012 v-6 don't use more than 15 percent ethanol blended fuel. This was taken from my owners manual the " notice " in the last paragraph leaves little doubt.


colingordon 06-02-2012 11:23 PM

I am not sure if I am right buy isn't Ethanol peanut oil? If it is I know that Ethanol will destroy your fuel lines even if the car says it can run E85. I dont trust it, it ruins your fuel lines and I think can harm your engine

MediumLabowski 06-03-2012 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camaro588 (Post 5048149)
read it takes E85? Though it says no in the owners manual. so can you put e85 in these things or not?

It doesnt say no, what manual are guys reading? Methanol is not ethanol.

Whatever, E85 is not currently relevant anyway. You spend less, but use more, unless you drive the flex Saab 9-5.

(the letter designation "LFX" was chosen because its a flex engine)

coloeb 06-30-2012 11:49 AM

My earlier post was copied and pasted directly from my owners manual. I am not sure why the lfx cars were not given a updated manual, but you are correct they are e-85 compatable.

06_warrior 06-30-2012 01:14 PM

I read on some web sites that the 2012 camaro with the LFX motor is compatable running E85 but it does not say any where in my owners manual that you can use E85. I'm not willing to risk problems using the E85 fuel. If a car is not compatable to use E85 that fuel can reek havoc on the fuel system and the engine itself. It's simply not worth trying it to see if it works or not.

rchrdp305 07-03-2012 09:15 PM

i filled up first with 85, but after 89. i have an 2012 2ls. after 8000 miles, im doing 27.7 mpg in the streets. in the highway i do like 30 - 40 mpg

Qtrofablock 07-05-2012 05:42 PM

Im sorry but evn tho the owners man says 87 is ok I only put 93!!!!!!

Henry G. 07-05-2012 07:30 PM

91 only for me. What is the advantage of E85? High octane but low mpg/power? No thanks. Ethanol is for drinking not driving.

06_warrior 07-05-2012 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qtrofablock (Post 5242218)
Im sorry but evn tho the owners man says 87 is ok I only put 93!!!!!!

You can but your simply wasting money. If you run 87 and your engine runs fine with no pinging your fine. Higher octane is needed for higher compression engines. It's your money and if it makes you feel better using it go for it but it really is a waste of money.


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