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OldJedi 10-17-2011 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rice Killer (Post 3894307)
Yeah it had the black diamond package with black wheels, yellow calipers, and recaro seats. It was funny, I had told her if she could find one under $55k I'd buy that instead. Luckily she didn't make me hold true to it. Not to mention, I'm from WI and that was in Texas, although if in the market for one, it would have been worth the trip.

I just did a search for it and it's understandably gone but found a thunder gray Chromaflair with 514 miles for $56999. It's no black diamond but still nice. Here's the link: http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...standard=false

You were lucky to get out of that one. I have waited almost two years for this car. Another month or so will not matter at this point.

OldJedi 10-17-2011 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by htron50 (Post 3894685)
Jedi, you are on target with this one. For mid 60's you can have a CTS-V, and for under $75 you can get it loaded. No need to talk about the pampering the CTS-V would provide. Have you seen the drivers "seat extensions" that are available on it? They make the seat under your thigh extend further out to support your legs on those long trips! A nice touch.

The CTS-V is a very, very nice car. Hopefully Chevy will keep the ZL1 affordable for all of us. We should know in about a month.

mr02Z/28 10-17-2011 05:49 PM

I told you folks this Camaro ZL1 is going to be Expensive... I think the $75,000 was a subtle hint at what the MSRP is going to be.. Think about it, if the car was in the $50,000 something dollar range why didn't the quote say "for under $60,000"... Details, details.... Don't hold your breath for the $48,000 MSRP sticker...LoL



I'm sure this car is going to be out of my price range...

GoldenBear 10-17-2011 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mr02Z/28 (Post 3895173)
I told you folks this Camaro ZL1 is going to be Expensive... I think the $75,000 was a subtle hint at what the MSRP is going to be.. Think about it, if the car was in the $50,000 something dollar range why didn't the quote say "for under $60,000"... Details, details.... Don't hold your breath for the $48,000 MSRP sticker...LoL

I doubt that the ZL1's MSRP will be anywhere near $75,000. The reason that the quote didn't indicate "for under $60,000" is that GM wants to indicate the price that one must pay in order to obtain a vehicle that is faster than the ZL1. If the ZL1 was the fastest vehicle under $150,000, then the quote would have reflected that price even though the ZL1 will not be priced anywhere near that amount. My guess is that the Z06 is faster than the ZL1, and that is why the $75,000 price was used in the quote.

dimitri 10-17-2011 06:10 PM

no way 75k

mustang fully loaded is around 56k

Z4me 10-17-2011 06:13 PM

I just wonder whats going to happen when we pre order these on the
29th and some people are priced out of the market for one. I suppose
refund on deposit and the dealer can probably change the order to the
factory for the next customer. Of course this would have to be around
mid November when they announce the MSRP and I would imagine the
costs of the options.
If these cars start to get over 60k out the door its going to be a budget
buster for some at least the 2012 model.

mr02Z/28 10-17-2011 06:13 PM

I still think it's a subtle hint that this car is by No Means going to be Cheap and it is No Way going to start @ $48,000 MSRP... I do think the $75,000 statement is probably Overkill but I do believe this car will run about $60,000... I would like to be wrong but who knows...


Maybe not a Starting MSRP of $75,000 but if you have a starting MSRP of about $55,000 and have numerous "options", that I'm sure GM will offer on the ZL1 and if you choose a well optioned ZL1, I could see this car running close to that.. Doesn't Chevy/GM have a few wheel options for the 2011 Camaro that price out at about $5,000 ???

Tarl 10-17-2011 06:24 PM

I had read months ago, and I'm hoping the starting price is still about $50,000. Base LT Camaro $21,000, Base SS $34,000, Base ZL1 $47,000 - rough numbers.I guess we'll have to wait and see.

That being said, we've seen 2LT/RS's loaded go for above $32,000, we've seen loaded 2SS/RS's go for $42,000 and we will prob see loaded ZL1's going for $60,000+

mr02Z/28 10-17-2011 06:39 PM

No way in Hell GM is going to have a starting MSRP @ $47,000, not with all the Technology involved and surely not with the recent "Ring times which the ZL1 is now in Super Car territory... It ain't gonna happen in the $47,000 range, you will be lucky if it starts around $53,000 and wait until they post the Drag 1/4 mile times in a week or 2 and if it is in the 11s range, I will be asured it will start at about $57,000, easily...

Drake Heminger 10-17-2011 06:51 PM

That CTS-V is looking more and more attractive everyday (;

Drake Heminger 10-17-2011 07:26 PM

some please contact me! im anxious! 423 650 0051 name is drake! we need to talk about this! ?

68vert 10-17-2011 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mr02Z/28 (Post 3895392)
No way in Hell GM is going to have a starting MSRP @ $47,000, not with all the Technology involved and surely not with the recent "Ring times which the ZL1 is now in Super Car territory... It ain't gonna happen in the $47,000 range, you will be lucky if it starts around $53,000 and wait until they post the Drag 1/4 mile times in a week or 2 and if it is in the 11s range, I will be asured it will start at about $57,000, easily...

I have to disagree. We know GM's profit margin is higher on the SS models over the V6. Why? Because the majority of the Camaro is the same. The difference is the SS has 2 more cylinders, and a beefier drive train and suspension. Remember GM rolls a Camaro out the door for sale starting at 23K. You think GM's cost is way higher making a A-arm for a V8 than a V6? Probably very little. The technology in the ZL1 was borrowed from other GM cars already on the road...drive train from Cadillac and suspension tech from the Vette. Obviously things were tweaked and tuned specifically for the ZL1, but its not like it has the newest gen tech. But I am fine with that. I expect the Cadillac's and Corvette's to have the newest and hottest. That is part of the price tag. I bet the ZL1 could start at $51-52k, and GM could still make a great margin on it.

I'm not trying to knock what GM is done at all...but this close to Christmas, everyone is getting quite giddy it seems. I will be in line for a ZL1 if the price is what I consider reasonable.

hunt 10-17-2011 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rogan (Post 3893477)
I haven't heard any - but I think she is going to be under 70k. Mid 60 at most. I think they put 75k and under to include the price of the z06 - and the zl1 is faster.

Way off base, the ZL1 is intended to compete for the GT500's market share and it will not do this above ~55k base price. The GT500 is 48k base but with performance upgrades that match what the zl1 has base it pushes to around 53k.

Do not expect to see this car priced above 60k base at the very highest and honestly if it gets that high then it's getting into CTS-V territory..

Drake Heminger 10-17-2011 08:01 PM

you guys are right i said this since day one... it is in competion with the GT500... price and performance... if it was anywhere near the price of high 60's and 70's then they have to say in competion with the gs vette,cts-v, or zo6... meaning it couldnt possibly be in competion with the GT500... that is how market works period... such as bmw and mercedes they are in competion bc they are priced equally or close to in each class... its simple marketing...


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