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Drive and handling of the Camaro not as good as the Mustang? :(
Hi all
So there are two reports out that the Camaro is not as good as the 2010 Mustang in terms of handling and drive. What does this mean? How does this car fault on those lines? More importantly, can it be adjusted ( with a after market tuner/ update from Chevy)? The articles http://jalopnik.com/5176993/2010-che...ro-first-drive http://www.latimes.com/classified/au...lumn?track=rss What is your take on this? (Kinda bummed out by this news) |
I prefer to BELIEVE these guys!!!!
Motortrend: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-uTj...eature=channel Edmunds.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as2er...om=PL&index=30 they both mention the handling of the Mustang.. keep in mind it Doesnt have the same suspension, less HP and weighs less.. so I would imagine that it would handle differently..... In the end it doesnt matter.. I still have not seen one in real life and I ordered one... :) |
dont believe any magazine. $$ can make you say anything
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I've been scrutinizing the handling of the Camaro vs. the rest since it's a huge factor for me - most of the magazines have said that the Mustang, while better than the last gen, is STILL limited by its SRA in the slalom. Camaro, on the other hand is limited by its weight and has somewhat of a deadzone in steering feel but still posts better numbers all-around.
I think what they were getting at was Mustang = better daily driver, Camaro = better sports car. |
Just shows that a nicely setup SRA can still handle around a track even though it's old like how pushrods are... it still works... so no problem there. if it works it works right?
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Handling areas are a mixed bag between the Mustang and the Camaro. Consensus sounds like the Camaro rides much better, but the Mustang feels sharper and more nimble. Objective metrics seem to be split, with the Mustang posting better numbers in some areas and the Camaro posting some better numbers elsewhere. I think I'll have to drive both to see which I like better. Before these reviews the Mustang wasn't even on my radar, but I think it merits consideration. The Camaro still wins hands down on presence though.
By the way, 3,000th post. Woohoo! |
When it comes to suspension, the Camaro should be a better DD in comparison to the Mustang since it will ride smoother with the IRS if there are lot's of road irregularities. On a track, the mustang may prove to be the better handler. And no, the road does not have to be "glass" smooth in order for the the SRA to perform.
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Seems to me we are in pretty good company in the handling department.....
Camaro turned a 8:19 at nurburgring.... other nurburgring lap times..... Quote:
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yep, camaro is better DD, mustang better track
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I hope you all know that none of those reviews had competition mode on.
There was a video of a mexican reviews on here. If you can understand spanish, you can see that they had competition mode on and absolutely loved the handling. |
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Once again.
Competition mode was not on for any of those tests. It will handle differently with it on. |
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What about the ring, was it used for that? |
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This is the only review I know of that had competition mode on http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18493 but it's in spanish. |
I dont know but I will drive both
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Also dont forget the test of the Camaro were done on a day that was just above freezing. MT already stated they wanted to rerun all the test on a warmer day to see what the car was better able to do.
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The only comment I'll say as far as handling for both cars is.... it all depends on the loose nut between the steering wheel and the drivers seat.... how good of a driver that person is. So the best bet is to go drive both yourself and decide which is best for you and for me it won't matter that much because I'm buying the Camaro reguardless, so arguing would be pointless! It all boils down to... what is your taste and you won't change others minds on what their taste is.
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I cant wait until we see these 2 cars battling on the track...Im talking tracks with corners..... Its been along time coming and Im freckin excited about it! :happyanim: |
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Chevy chose to seriously make a "sports car"...that means they stressed superior refinement over brutal performance. IMO, it was a smart choice, and sales numbers will reflect that.:) |
GM tends to go for grip over handling. Grip no doubt is fine, but I still think handling will be the weakest link in the Camaro's dynamics. That's not saying it will be bad, just not as good as acceleration, braking, and grip.
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the 2010 camaro may have just beaten the 2 others but the 2nd and 3rd production years of the camaro will be even sweeter
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Fleet1 GrandSport Speedway, Houston |
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the push rods weakest point has a solution...rev limiter. |
Most people who are splitting hairs on this forum about magazine results probably aren't skilled enough to drive the car to max potential anyway.
I don' see why it is so hard to give some kudos to the Mustang for hanging in there with a SRA...it isn't like its going to make the Camaro any less of a car or take away from anyones value as a human being because a Mustang GT had some unexpected potential on the track. |
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How many of those reviews had a mustang GT with track pack installed? Give the Camaro an extra $1500 in upgrades and I would suspect the story would be a bit different.
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I prefer to SECOND this guy!!!! |
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no one has said that mustangs flop around the track like a station wagon. . ..all though, top gear did beat a V6 mustang, with a horse, but it was a really tight circle. |
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irs vs sra isn't irs it's own track pack and an advantage off the bat anyway? |
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but the track pack tuned for track, and loses alot of road comfort. the camaro ss is tuned for performance, but still delivers a smooth ride for everyday driving. |
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