Dyno tune vs email. Comparison - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

axis · 02-24-2014, 10:43 PM

With all the talk about remote tuning, thought i'd post up my results. This is a popular SCT custom email tune on the thin line and a GPI dyno tune on the bold. Car is a L99, Kooks 1 3/4 headers with HFC's, and a Halltech Yellowjacket. No hero runs here. Car was at operating temps before the logs were run. 4X runs on the email tune to get a baseline and used the best repeatable run. Rhino (GPI) did a great job and was very professional. VVT tables were properly set to get the most HP/Tq at the earliest rpm.

This isn't posted to bash remote tuning, but for many to understand the reasoning why some people say to dyno tune whenever possible. IMO, you can't see the fine tuning needed for getting the most from your car with just logs. You can get close if you have a GOOD tuner that pays close attention to the logs but there's always a little left on the table.

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litle88 · 02-24-2014, 10:53 PM

Rhino79 has been doing it right!!!

Congrats Axis!!

CamaroKid300 · 02-24-2014, 11:02 PM

This is why I went with a custom in house tune using HP Tuners with Josh @ Spartan Performance.

mikeyg36 · 02-24-2014, 11:02 PM

Congrats Axis! Rhino is an effin tank. Just as a curiosity, what was the email tune?

TBone · 02-24-2014, 11:04 PM

After hearing about issues with email tunes and seeing this I am glad I went with a Dyno tune using HPTuners.

T.

bhillakaiceberg · 02-24-2014, 11:04 PM

Pretty telling. Hence, why I am about to ditch my email tune and get a dyno tune by a reputable tuner/builder.

rberns · 02-24-2014, 11:07 PM

Damn, I need glasses. Took me forever to find the thin line. lol

axis · 02-24-2014, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rberns

Damn, I need glasses. Took me forever to find the thin line. lol

Hit the resize image button.

CHMSC · 02-24-2014, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyg36

Congrats Axis! Rhino is an effin tank. Just as a curiosity, what was the email tune?

I could take a guess......

ZO6 Bryan · 02-24-2014, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by axis

This is a popular SCT custom email tune

This might be a clue.

mikeyg36 · 02-24-2014, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ZO6 Bryan

This might be a clue.

I only looked at the graph

ZO6 Bryan · 02-24-2014, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by axis

With all the talk about remote tuning, thought i'd post up my results. This is a popular SCT custom email tune on the thin line and a GPI dyno tune on the bold. Car is a L99, Kooks 1 3/4 headers with HFC's, and a Halltech Yellowjacket. No hero runs here. Car was at operating temps before the logs were run. 4X runs on the email tune to get a baseline and used the best repeatable run. Rhino (GPI) did a great job and was very professional. VVT tables were properly set to get the most HP/Tq at the earliest rpm.

This isn't posted to bash remote tuning, but for many to understand the reasoning why some people say to dyno tune whenever possible. IMO, you can't see the fine tuning needed for getting the most from your car with just logs. You can get close if you have a GOOD tuner that pays close attention to the logs but there's always a little left on the table.

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Was the first tune possibly very lean and experiencing knock retard? What was commanded AFR vs the actual AFR the car was getting?

axis · 02-24-2014, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ZO6 Bryan

Was the first tune possibly very lean and experiencing knock retard? What was commanded AFR vs the actual AFR the car was getting?

Yes it was lean. Little bit of retard, i'm thinking it was around 2 degrees. Was commanding somewhere in the 12.2 range and hitting 13.6. Maf scaling was a bit out. haha

62nalide · 02-25-2014, 12:02 AM

Lucky for me my tuner was dead on with my remote tune

drove from Dallas to GPI and things were looking real good!

02-24-2014, 10:43 PM	#1
axis Search Ninja Drives: 2010 Black 2SS/RS A6 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Central Ark Posts: 7,183	Dyno tune vs email. Comparison With all the talk about remote tuning, thought i'd post up my results. This is a popular SCT custom email tune on the thin line and a GPI dyno tune on the bold. Car is a L99, Kooks 1 3/4 headers with HFC's, and a Halltech Yellowjacket. No hero runs here. Car was at operating temps before the logs were run. 4X runs on the email tune to get a baseline and used the best repeatable run. Rhino (GPI) did a great job and was very professional. VVT tables were properly set to get the most HP/Tq at the earliest rpm. This isn't posted to bash remote tuning, but for many to understand the reasoning why some people say to dyno tune whenever possible. IMO, you can't see the fine tuning needed for getting the most from your car with just logs. You can get close if you have a GOOD tuner that pays close attention to the logs but there's always a little left on the table. [IMG][/IMG] __________________ 2010 Black 2SS/RS A6 Halltech CF 102 fed GPI modded intake manifold Bo (knows) White ported TB Kooks LT's/ Dynomax VT Pfadted (springs/sways) Dyno tuned by Rhino and GPI I once parallel parked a train.

02-24-2014, 10:53 PM	#2
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	Rhino79 has been doing it right!!! Congrats Axis!! __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.

02-24-2014, 11:02 PM	#3
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02-24-2014, 11:04 PM	#5
TBone Negative Camber Junkie Drives: 2010 1SS LS3/6MN ABM 1 of 23 Join Date: May 2009 Location: ChiTown, IL Posts: 1,824	After hearing about issues with email tunes and seeing this I am glad I went with a Dyno tune using HPTuners. T. __________________ "Horsepower is something that looks great in a Magazine article, but suspension is what actually gets you around the track fast.." Jack Olsen The drag strip is like sniffing glue, it's cheap, it's a decent buzz, it doesn't last long and they are all the same. Road racing is like China White Heroin, the buzz is stronger, the high lasts for hours, it's extremely addictive and they are all different. I can't wait for my next Track fix. DA HAWKS OWN DA CUP!!!!!

02-24-2014, 11:04 PM	#6
bhillakaiceberg Drives: 2011 2SS/RS & 2017 1SS Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,960	Pretty telling. Hence, why I am about to ditch my email tune and get a dyno tune by a reputable tuner/builder. __________________ *2011 Chevrolet Camaro 2SS/RS L99* (1 of 782) 10.78 @125mph ALL MOTOR SBE Built/Tuned by Me 2017 Chevrolet Camaro 1SS Auto 9.29 @144.57mph ALL MOTOR SBE #TEAMGPI Gwatney Performance Innovation Last edited by bhillakaiceberg; 02-24-2014 at 11:17 PM.

02-24-2014, 11:02 PM	#4
mikeyg36 Drives: 2015 Z/28 #533 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: NY Posts: 6,732	Congrats Axis! Rhino is an effin tank. Just as a curiosity, what was the email tune?

02-24-2014, 11:07 PM	#7
rberns Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: US Posts: 3,291 View My Garage	Damn, I need glasses. Took me forever to find the thin line. lol __________________ 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS, Circle D 3200, ADM Transmission Cooler, BTR Valvetrain, Cam Motion .621 .595 228/244 113+4, ARH 1 7/8 full exhaust, Cold Air Inductions, Katech C5R TC, Melling HV, BTR SLR lifters, Trunion Upgrade, LS2 Dampner, LS9 head gaskets, Bo White PTB, MM can, GFX, Subs, B&M Deep transmission pan, Holley fuel rail, Proform valve covers, relocated coil packs

02-25-2014, 12:02 AM	#14
62nalide Drives: 2013 SS Join Date: May 2013 Location: DFW Posts: 4,102	Lucky for me my tuner was dead on with my remote tune drove from Dallas to GPI and things were looking real good! __________________ https://frankensteined.net/ Martin@Frankensteined.net