[Blackrat]

I always found it funny when the influencers on YouTube have the credit to drop on a ZLE but not the knowledge that that's a horrible choice to record highway races with.

[Vtor_ZL1]

OH no, car with same power but less drag has higher top speed.




Glad ya'll caught that - coulda been embarrassing.

[JSH]

Originally Posted by Blackrat

horrible choice to record highway races with.

Why is it a horrible choice?

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by JSH

Why is it a horrible choice?

The aero, obviously.

[JSH]

Originally Posted by Z OH 6

The aero, obviously.

But only if your goal is the fastest top speed, which no one on this site ever does, so it's irrelevant.

[KamZL1]

Originally Posted by JSH

Hmm, I haven't lost to a ZL1 yet, so...

Must not have ran into Del with that FBO white one snatching souls

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by JSH

But only if your goal is the fastest top speed, which no one on this site ever does, so it's irrelevant.

The aero has an effect well before top speed. If it only affected top speed, it would be useless.

[JSH]

Originally Posted by Z OH 6

The aero has an effect well before top speed. If it only affected top speed, it would be useless.

Everyone here knows a stock ZL1 theoretically has a bit more top speed, and the 1LE is faster on a road course. I've come here for four years, and not one person has said their ZL1 outran a 1LE in top speed because of aero. You would have to be insane to go out on your local interstate and race two stock cars side by side up to top speed to see if a difference exists.

[Blackrat]

Originally Posted by JSH

But only if your goal is the fastest top speed, which no one on this site ever does, so it's irrelevant.

I was referring to the online influencers in my post. There's numerous videos of people buying a ZLE for their crappy vlog series or whatever and doing high speed runs or racing other cars on the freeway, never coming close to a track. Wrong car for the job.

Similar thing happened with the Straight Pipes review of the ZLE. They loved the car for the most part but were surprised that the car wasn't as fast as the regular ZL1 off the line and had trouble keeping up with the camera car. Common sense would tell them that super stiff suspension isn't conducive to traction out of the hole, but apparently this not known to a YouTube channel dedicated to cars

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by JSH

Everyone here knows a stock ZL1 theoretically has a bit more top speed, and the 1LE is faster on a road course. I've come here for four years, and not one person has said their ZL1 outran a 1LE in top speed because of aero. You would have to be insane to go out on your local interstate and race two stock cars side by side up to top speed to see if a difference exists.

I'll say this again, maybe it will sink in this time, the aero on the 1LE affects the car WELL below top speed so even in a 60-130 race, its going to have some affect, it could be quite small but its going to have SOME affect. There's no free lunch, you can't claim you got more aero downforce but also pretend it has no impact on drag.

[CalgaryZL1]

Originally Posted by Z OH 6

I'll say this again, maybe it will sink in this time, the aero on the 1LE affects the car WELL below top speed so even in a 60-130 race, its going to have some affect, it could be quite small but its going to have SOME affect. There's no free lunch, you can't claim you got more aero downforce but also pretend it has no impact on drag.

Very true, drag is drag. Between the two cars that is minuscule. unless you want to start changing the design of the body configuration.

[GreenZLE]

LMAO!!! "MA, ZLhaves and ZL poors is fight'n again!"

[JSH]

Originally Posted by Z OH 6

I'll say this again, maybe it will sink in this time, the aero on the 1LE affects the car WELL below top speed so even in a 60-130 race, its going to have some affect, it could be quite small but its going to have SOME affect. There's no free lunch, you can't claim you got more aero downforce but also pretend it has no impact on drag.

I have always agreed that the 1LE's aero adds measurable downforce and drag as speed increases, which is its purpose. And I'll say again, while there's always a faster car out there, in four years, my car has never been beaten by a ZL1.

[arpad_m]

I'm one of those that are still amazed by Bill Wise's 7:16.04 Nürburgring run in a first model year (2018) ZL1 1LE, even watching the video almost makes me sweat... this is a very, very fast car in good hands.

One wonders, however, how much the car would've gained with active aero on the straightaways, especially the 1.5-mile back straight where the ZL1 1LE was only able to climb to 172 mph. The ZL1 reached 180 mph in the same spot, but the 1LE is a bit lighter, so there's that. A sub-7 minute run might have been possible with active aero.