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busaboy · 07-26-2010, 06:03 PM

You Pedders guys are good.

Info@PeddersUSA.com · 07-26-2010, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by busaboy

You Pedders guys are good.

thats why we are Pedders guys!

mike

PQ · 07-26-2010, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike.White@PeddersUSA.com

thats why we are Pedders guys!

mike

Are you Pedders guys because you're good?

Or are you good because you're Pedders guy?

Info@PeddersUSA.com · 07-26-2010, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by PQ

Are you Pedders guys because you're good?

Or are you good because you're Pedders guy?

YES AND YES.

thanks
mike

mikepage0007 · 07-26-2010, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by PQ

And has anyone ever heard of brand new tires doing this but leveling out over time?

Plus, I may go have some 22 inch rentals put on the car to check it out.

Yup, you can actually rent wheels.

hopeful thinking , but no..if a tire is out of round it will roll harder to its heaviest area and that will cause more wear in that spot...it will then start to wear uneven causing either chop or scalloping after time , which will throw off balance...more vibration...best bet if no other option would be to have it shaved..i know they used to do this a lot with big monster truck tires to not overload the wheels with a lot of weights..had some 44 super swampers done when i was younger..good luck

SSmoothie · 07-26-2010, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by PQ

And has anyone ever heard of brand new tires doing this but leveling out over time?

Plus, I may go have some 22 inch rentals put on the car to check it out.

Yup, you can actually rent wheels.

Not a bad idea, it could be as much as 1 tire getting out of round when you pick up speed and have the weight of the car on the tires.

PQ · 07-27-2010, 11:13 AM

Just got back from the shop this morning. There is no need for any more tests or speculation. It's the wheels. RIMS. These guys also drove the car and immediately he said I can feel vibration right now. We were doing about 25mph. And the vibration just got worse like normal.

I was of the belief, or maybe I was in denial, that the steering wheel was not vibrating anymore. He was kind of an a-hole and looked at me and said "Look at the wheel... look at my hand..... can you not see that?"

Of course I could see it but no matter, he told me it would be a waste of time to align it or do any further tests because it was a wheel problem. Either tires or rims.

Well, we got back to the shop and they spun each wheel.

It's the wheels. I'm actually pretty shocked here. I can't believe that Savini has had these back twice and they are still coming to me like this. The left rear is very questionable and after spining it he said he'd have that one replaced but it's not the big problem. He said one of those front wheels is terrible. Well, when they spun the left front wheel, which is the one that Rent and Roll told me to have fixed, and the one that we were sending them back to have fixed, and it is AWEFUL. The guys in the shop were laughing. This thing is still totaly wobbly. The video doesn't do it justice but you can still see how bad it is.

Thank you for your input guys, but it's the wheels. I don't need all that runout GM test and specs to know it's the wheels.

Right Rear Wheel

Left Front Wheel

Info@PeddersUSA.com · 07-27-2010, 11:34 AM

There is runout on all wheels and tires. Here is a general spec from Hunter

Specifications On-Car Off-Car
Radial Runout 0.060 inch (1.524mm) 0.050 inch (1.27mm)
Lateral Runout 0.060 inch (1.524mm) 0.050 inch (1.27mm)

.060 inch is about the thickness of a quarter. the runout does appear to be more than that.

mike

JProberts · 07-27-2010, 11:36 AM

Glad to see youi finally got to the bottom of these wheel vibration problem. But very sorry to see that Savani put you through all this misery for what in the end really seems like an obvious problem all along.

Anyway good luck with your next wheel choice as I have a feeling you won't be staying with the Savani wheels.

PQ · 07-27-2010, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike.White@PeddersUSA.com

There is runout on all wheels and tires. Here is a general spec from Hunter

Specifications On-Car Off-Car
Radial Runout 0.060 inch (1.524mm) 0.050 inch (1.27mm)
Lateral Runout 0.060 inch (1.524mm) 0.050 inch (1.27mm)

.060 inch is about the thickness of a quarter. the runout does appear to be more than that.

mike

I'd say it's about the thickness of 3 quarters. look how far the left front is away from the indicator arm. The rear maybe 2. The other two wheels were doing it as well but much less. Doesn't matter, the guys at the shop thought it was funny.

I didn't.

motorhead · 07-27-2010, 11:51 AM

I guess those wheels were made to look at and not ride on. Hope you get it corrected. You could soon write a book just about your wheel problems.

Mr Twisty · 07-27-2010, 12:21 PM

I wonder why they didn't vibrate on tribones car?

Nine Ball · 07-27-2010, 12:35 PM

That left front wheel doesn't look good. The rear one seems about normal from what I've witnessed. Not sure how Savini could have missed that front one being off that much...twice.

Chrisrp454 · 07-27-2010, 12:41 PM

Yeap scratch Savini off my list!

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Originally Posted by Nine Ball

That left front wheel doesn't look good. The rear one seems about normal from what I've witnessed. Not sure how Savini could have missed that front one being off that much...twice.

07-27-2010, 11:13 AM	#119
PQ Booooosted. Drives: 2010 Supercharged SS Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 36,717 View My Garage	Just got back from the shop this morning. There is no need for any more tests or speculation. It's the wheels. RIMS. These guys also drove the car and immediately he said I can feel vibration right now. We were doing about 25mph. And the vibration just got worse like normal. I was of the belief, or maybe I was in denial, that the steering wheel was not vibrating anymore. He was kind of an a-hole and looked at me and said "Look at the wheel... look at my hand..... can you not see that?" Of course I could see it but no matter, he told me it would be a waste of time to align it or do any further tests because it was a wheel problem. Either tires or rims. Well, we got back to the shop and they spun each wheel. It's the wheels. I'm actually pretty shocked here. I can't believe that Savini has had these back twice and they are still coming to me like this. The left rear is very questionable and after spining it he said he'd have that one replaced but it's not the big problem. He said one of those front wheels is terrible. Well, when they spun the left front wheel, which is the one that Rent and Roll told me to have fixed, and the one that we were sending them back to have fixed, and it is AWEFUL. The guys in the shop were laughing. This thing is still totaly wobbly. The video doesn't do it justice but you can still see how bad it is. Thank you for your input guys, but it's the wheels. I don't need all that runout GM test and specs to know it's the wheels. Right Rear Wheel Left Front Wheel __________________ Last edited by PQ; 08-23-2010 at 03:48 PM.

07-27-2010, 12:21 PM	#124
Mr Twisty Drives: the 2nd amendment home Join Date: May 2008 Location: OK Posts: 14,763	I wonder why they didn't vibrate on tribones car? __________________ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin lib·er·ty /ˈlibərdē/ noun 1. the state of being free within society from oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one's way of life, behavior, or political views

07-27-2010, 12:35 PM	#125
Nine Ball Drives: 1969 & 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 3,849	That left front wheel doesn't look good. The rear one seems about normal from what I've witnessed. Not sure how Savini could have missed that front one being off that much...twice. __________________ Fquick.com/NineBall

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Info@PeddersUSA.com Drives: 5th Gen Rental Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: New England Posts: 1,901	There is runout on all wheels and tires. Here is a general spec from Hunter Specifications On-Car Off-Car Radial Runout 0.060 inch (1.524mm) 0.050 inch (1.27mm) Lateral Runout 0.060 inch (1.524mm) 0.050 inch (1.27mm) .060 inch is about the thickness of a quarter. the runout does appear to be more than that. mike

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JProberts Drives: 2SS RJT RS/Sunroof Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 868	Glad to see youi finally got to the bottom of these wheel vibration problem. But very sorry to see that Savani put you through all this misery for what in the end really seems like an obvious problem all along. Anyway good luck with your next wheel choice as I have a feeling you won't be staying with the Savani wheels.

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motorhead Drives: Love the one you're with Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Downtown Charlie Brown Posts: 11,849	I guess those wheels were made to look at and not ride on. Hope you get it corrected. You could soon write a book just about your wheel problems.