Radar Detector

[divvichild]

Originally Posted by Maddog78

I look forward to these ads in the classifieds.

For Sale: 2010 Camaro SS
Lost my license for 6 mos. due to speeding tickets and illegal radar/laser jammer. Can't afford insurance now. Must Sell


These headlines I don't look forward to.

22 yr. old driver in 2010 Camaro SS causes 4 car pile up while changing lanes at 100mph+ Multiple fatalities.

I agree with you on those points, but they are not what this thread is about. If you are doing 100+, there is no point in a radar detector, and even less of a point of having a jammer. There really isnt even a point to wearing a seatbelt, because if you hit something, you WILL die.

What we are talking about is the times when you are driving to/home from somewhere, there is no traffic, and you speed slowly creeps above the PSL. (like 5-10 more), and you may get busted for it.

[Maddog78]

Uhhh, OK.

Originally Posted by PA FAST

I like to drive fast, but I am afraid to do more than 75 MPH because of these cops, especially since I am in my 20's the cops are out to bust my ass. I just want to do between 80-100 MPH (When the weather and traffic permit) without worry. If I want to go faster I will take it to the track. The detector would be fine for me but like divvichild said, once you detect the laser it's too late. This is why a Jammer is necessary.

[divvichild]

Originally Posted by Maddog78

Uhhh, OK.

Ok, I stand corrected. This thread has gotten WAY off topic.

This thread was in no way started to ask how to speed or beat the police. It was started to ask about the RVM with a side note asking who will be installing a RD.

Nuff Said!

[SemperFi]

Originally Posted by ckellyme3

These things are good to have but if your in a new camaro ss and your going 150mph+ the odds are they arent going to try and catch you any way lol. I never got a speeding ticket for over 80mph.

HA! Then you are either extremely lucky, or never go faster. I got a ticket for 110 in a 65 zone on I-35 in central Texas... that was a mess.

[Mr_Draco]

This site lists what is legal and what is illegal in each state in the US, Canada, and even covers other countries.

http://www.1stradardetectors.com/rad...ector-laws.php

[brantley847]

Originally Posted by rlg3

But I bet he doesnt write other cops tickets or their families!!!!

Yes, and no...limitations...

He will write you for 10 over, but will write a cop if hes doing 20-30 over. Wrong or right? maybe so, I suppose the theory is not "this is my buddy"...it is "if I am getting shot at, this guy is coming to save my life". I know its hard to understand, but its similiar to the bond we've had in military (for those who have served)....its nothing personal or trying to offend citizens. Again, his personal experience and seeing death/injuries from that substantial speed.....and he does have a valid argument. I have never done 30 over when not responding to an emergency and it is hard to forgive when you see someone doing that...cop or not..

[brantley847]

Originally Posted by Nexus6

are police officers in florida still required to leave your parking lights on when on the side of the road at night? dont know if it was "required" , but i always saw the troopers with them on. unlike here in Dallas.was on my way to work at 5 A.M when a car passed me just before an underpass doing about 85.Just as he went under it, the cherries and berries turned on from under the bridge. You could see him at all unitl he turned his lights on .It scared the crap outta me i thought i was gonna piss myself

Absolutely not, I "black" out all the time...many people hate that about police, but I figure you have jammers and detectors then I am going to play ball too. When you drop all your jammers and detectors..then Ill sit wide open in the median with lights on....

now, before you jump on my case this is coming from a officer who writes tickets to 15% of people he pulls over, and only cites for 20+ mph over the limit...and thats residential. Speed isnt a big deal to me with limits....red lights are my pet peeve.

[Chewy]

Originally Posted by brantley847

Yes, and no...limitations...

He will write you for 10 over, but will write a cop if hes doing 20-30 over. Wrong or right? maybe so, I suppose the theory is not "this is my buddy"...it is "if I am getting shot at, this guy is coming to save my life". I know its hard to understand, but its similiar to the bond we've had in military (for those who have served)....its nothing personal or trying to offend citizens. Again, his personal experience and seeing death/injuries from that substantial speed.....and he does have a valid argument. I have never done 30 over when not responding to an emergency and it is hard to forgive when you see someone doing that...cop or not..

what i don't understand is that our civilian cops on base are the worste the MPs never give me trouble, but i had a civilian write me up for 'driving w/o headlights'. i dimmed them as COURTESY to the guards when coming through the gate, and still had my running lights & fogs on.

after he pulled me over i turned them on for him and we could barely see a difference. 730pm w/ a full moon i could see, people could see me - thats what counts

[miami69]

I’ve been very satisfied since I installed an Escort 8500 radar detector and Escort ZR3 laser "shifter" (i.e. jammer) system back in 2005 after getting a laser gun ticket on I-75.

Disclaimer #1: my experience is based on Florida where these devices are legal, so if you live in another state these devices may or may not be legal.


With that said . . .

Since installing the system I have not received any tickets. My travels are mostly in the southern half of the state of Florida including the major highways such as the Turnpike, I-95, I-75, etc. My radar detector is set to only detect Ka band.

Based on my experience, I believe you can routinely travel 20mph over the posted speed limit without a ticket as long as you understand how these different systems work:

Radar detectors: the objective is to detect radar being used on other vehicles in front of you. This is key. If you are detecting your car being clocked, it's too late. This is why you never want to be "on point" or all alone on the road with no one in front of you. Make sure there are other vehicles in front of you so you can detect them getting clocked which gives you enough time to slow down.

Laser "Shifter": the objective is to confuse the laser gun in real time as it is clocking your vehicle, to prevent the gun's display from indicating your speed. Unlike radar, the laser gun is pointed specifically at the "target" car, usually at the front license plate, or at one of the headlights if there is no plate (I installed a front license plate to incent the officer to point at the plate to maximize both of my front transponders).

A laser "detector", such as what comes with the Escort 8500 or Valentine V1, will not give you enough warning; indeed, all it's going to tell you is you've just been succesfully clocked! The ZR3 system, however, pulses light (you cannot see it) to confuse the laser gun and prevent a speed reading on the gun. Once you've slowed down to the desired speed, you can manually disable the "shifting" to prevent unwanted attention, since they usually make multiple attempts at you.

I can say first hand, that when used properly both the 8500 and the ZR3 absolutely work and work well. I have experienced a number of "shifting" sessions, including where I can actually see the laser operator, and despite getting multiple hits both front and rear nothing happens.

I'm including pics of my setup just to provide some ideas on how it might be configured in the Camaro. Hope this helps.

[PA FAST]

Originally Posted by miami69

I’ve been very satisfied since I installed an Escort 8500 radar detector and Escort ZR3 laser "shifter" (i.e. jammer) system back in 2005 after getting a laser gun ticket on I-75.

Disclaimer #1: my experience is based on Florida where these devices are legal, so if you live in another state these devices may or may not be legal.

With that said . . .

Since installing the system I have not received any tickets. My travels are mostly in the southern half of the state of Florida including the major highways such as the Turnpike, I-95, I-75, etc. My radar detector is set to only detect Ka band.

Based on my experience, I believe you can routinely travel 20mph over the posted speed limit without a ticket as long as you understand how these different systems work:

Radar detectors: the objective is to detect radar being used on other vehicles in front of you. This is key. If you are detecting your car being clocked, it's too late. This is why you never want to be "on point" or all alone on the road with no one in front of you. Make sure there are other vehicles in front of you so you can detect them getting clocked which gives you enough time to slow down.

Laser "Shifter": the objective is to confuse the laser gun in real time as it is clocking your vehicle, to prevent the gun's display from indicating your speed. Unlike radar, the laser gun is pointed specifically at the "target" car, usually at the front license plate, or at one of the headlights if there is no plate (I installed a front license plate to incent the officer to point at the plate to maximize both of my front transponders).

A laser "detector", such as what comes with the Escort 8500 or Valentine V1, will not give you enough warning; indeed, all it's going to tell you is you've just been succesfully clocked! The ZR3 system, however, pulses light (you cannot see it) to confuse the laser gun and prevent a speed reading on the gun. Once you've slowed down to the desired speed, you can manually disable the "shifting" to prevent unwanted attention, since they usually make multiple attempts at you.

I can say first hand, that when used properly both the 8500 and the ZR3 absolutely work and work well. I have experienced a number of "shifting" sessions, including where I can actually see the laser operator, and despite getting multiple hits both front and rear nothing happens.

I'm including pics of my setup just to provide some ideas on how it might be configured in the Camaro. Hope this helps.

I enjoyed your post, it was very informative. You have a very complex setup installed on your car. So I will assume it's impossible to have full coverage without such a setup. At least you cannot do it with one removable box mounted on your dash, correct?

[miami69]

Other than that I enjoyed your post, it was very informative. You have a very complex setup installed on your car. So I will assume it's impossible to have full coverage without such a setup. At least you cannot do it with one removable box mounted on your dash, correct?

Correct. You can get full radar coverage as I described with the just the detector, but if you want laser protection you have to add the jamming system setup.

[GTAHVIT]

How bout I inject a voice of reason here.

No more posts about Police Officers. If you all want to discuss the best set up to prevent tickets then so be it.

I could care less if you like Police Officers or not. Any further posts in this thread making with any reference to Law Enforcement Officers won't be tolerated.

[my2010camaross]

Originally Posted by divvichild

I haven't seen any good pics of the Rear view mirror. Anyone know if there is space above it to mount a Valentine?

Who else is putting a RD in their Maro?

only the valentine.

[PA FAST]

Originally Posted by miami69

Correct. You can get full radar coverage as I described with the just the detector, but if you want laser protection you have to add the jamming system setup.

I wonder how widely lasers are used in comparison to radar?