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cybercoaster · 11-15-2011, 11:38 AM

I may back out - so confused. Do I want a first run car again? I dont think so. Do I need all this power no and yes

I really dont plan on racing it or doing road courses. Of course I didnt plan that with my 2010 either

Base price plus GGT, plus tax plus exposed cf plus $900 dest charge pushes it right at $60k. Plus I will have the sale of my 2010 (I hope). But having a 1st run car still concerns me. May just get a 2012 and upgrade that later

thinking out loud here...

Brian52682 · 11-15-2011, 11:43 AM

I got my 2011 Camaro SS vert for 40k and I am going to buy the Hennessey HPE 650 for 13,500 installed which will give my Camaro 655 bhp which beat out the 725 hp Super Snake so it would in theory be faster than any Mustang they make for the next few years easily. I am sticking with my SS and going with Hennessey.

SS 376 · 11-15-2011, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cybercoaster

I may back out - so confused. Do I want a first run car again? I dont think so. Do I need all this power no and yes

I really dont plan on racing it or doing road courses. Of course I didnt plan that with my 2010 either

Base price plus GGT, plus tax plus exposed cf plus $900 dest charge pushes it right at $60k. Plus I will have the sale of my 2010 (I hope). But having a 1st run car still concerns me. May just get a 2012 and upgrade that later

thinking out loud here...

The ZL1 is a CTS-V underneath (which itself is a bit of ZR1), so it's not really a first run car. The key bits--mainly the drivetrain--are battle-tested already. Plus the ZL1 will share a whole ton of parts with the 2SS. So you're not really in any uncharted waters...

cybercoaster · 11-15-2011, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SS 376

The ZL1 is a CTS-V underneath (which itself is a bit of ZR1), so it's not really a first run car. The key bits--mainly the drivetrain--are battle-tested already. Plus the ZL1 will share a whole ton of parts with the 2SS. So you're not really in any uncharted waters...

Well thats true.

cyrusthevirus · 11-15-2011, 11:51 AM

even putting down 25k wont help me, im looking at a house payment, im out very disappointed

ShnOmac · 11-15-2011, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by cyrusthevirus

even putting down 25k wont help me, im looking at a house payment, im out very disappointed

What were you expecting?

Issh · 11-15-2011, 12:02 PM

The 2013 GT500 is coming out in the spring of 2012 so I doubt we will see dealers adding a premium to the MSRP of the ZL1.

S-eatin-grin · 11-15-2011, 12:06 PM

LOL...I knew this would happen! 580 bhp was way too easy for ford to beat. Most of the modded tuner SS camaros are way above that with suspension and drivetrain upgrades too (myself included). Yeah..you can mod your ZL1 but that dinky 1.9L SC will limit how far you can go with it...high price tag starting out and high price tag to mod...no warranty... If you have to be faster than the newest GT500 to sleep at night, this current ZL1 isn't worth it....would like a set of it's forged wheels though

Cammie 2011 · 11-15-2011, 12:12 PM

Still in like sin!

z28mass · 11-15-2011, 12:29 PM

I am still in.

hognutz · 11-15-2011, 12:36 PM

I backed in. ha ha my wife said I was bing a P$ssy about the price.

I like the Zl1 looks better and for all the power they added to the GT500 in the past it never lapped a track for crap. Didn't want to loose my spot and have the GT500 turn out like it always has a fast car in a stairt line with poor balance.

cyrusthevirus · 11-15-2011, 12:41 PM

48-50 starting. bc being at 54 not add options and gg tax n tax will be well out of my range. I could get a track rdy gt500 12 for 50 but i really dont want a ford

S-eatin-grin · 11-15-2011, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cyrusthevirus

48-50 starting. bc being at 54 not add options and gg tax n tax will be well out of my range. I could get a track rdy gt500 12 for 50 but i really dont want a ford

There will be plenty of used low mile SS's to be had...drive it for a few days before you buy it..don't be gentle...buy for 30K then modd it up!! Suspension, drive train, wheels (forgestar CF5 or F-14) depending on how expensive your taste = 10K, super charger (vortech or whipple), headers, CAI, exhaust, tune = 10K and you are past the ZL1. Problem solved....just my .02

FRANK121 · 11-15-2011, 12:49 PM

I can sure mode My 2011 SS for a lot less. I would sure be pissed if I traded in My pristine SS for a new ZL1 only to find out the new Mustangs where faster?

11-15-2011, 12:12 PM	#37
Cammie 2011 Drives: 2014 Camaro 2ss 1LE and 2013 1LE Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 551	Still in like sin! __________________ 2013 Camaro 1LE 2014 Camaro 1LE

11-15-2011, 12:49 PM	#42
FRANK121 Drives: 2022 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Sullivan, Missouri Posts: 653 View My Garage	I can sure mode My 2011 SS for a lot less. I would sure be pissed if I traded in My pristine SS for a new ZL1 only to find out the new Mustangs where faster? __________________ 2022 Black ZL1 RotoFab CAI, AWE Touring Edition Cat Back Exhaust. 665 Crank hp. est. and 660 Crank ft. lbs. est. Never been Dynoed

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11-15-2011, 11:38 AM	#29
cybercoaster Drives: 2017 2SS 50th Anv, 1972 RS Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 1,588 View My Garage	I may back out - so confused. Do I want a first run car again? I dont think so. Do I need all this power no and yes I really dont plan on racing it or doing road courses. Of course I didnt plan that with my 2010 either Base price plus GGT, plus tax plus exposed cf plus $900 dest charge pushes it right at $60k. Plus I will have the sale of my 2010 (I hope). But having a 1st run car still concerns me. May just get a 2012 and upgrade that later thinking out loud here...

11-15-2011, 11:43 AM	#30
Brian52682 Drives: 2011 Camaro SS Convertible Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, AL Posts: 223	I got my 2011 Camaro SS vert for 40k and I am going to buy the Hennessey HPE 650 for 13,500 installed which will give my Camaro 655 bhp which beat out the 725 hp Super Snake so it would in theory be faster than any Mustang they make for the next few years easily. I am sticking with my SS and going with Hennessey.

11-15-2011, 11:51 AM	#33
cyrusthevirus Drives: 2009 chevy cobalt ss, 1989 Iroc-z Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: pa Posts: 75	even putting down 25k wont help me, im looking at a house payment, im out very disappointed

11-15-2011, 12:02 PM	#35
Issh Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Summit White Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Belmont, Ohio Posts: 68	The 2013 GT500 is coming out in the spring of 2012 so I doubt we will see dealers adding a premium to the MSRP of the ZL1.

11-15-2011, 12:06 PM	#36
S-eatin-grin Drives: 2013 2SS/RS AGM Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: WV Posts: 1,170 View My Garage	LOL...I knew this would happen! 580 bhp was way too easy for ford to beat. Most of the modded tuner SS camaros are way above that with suspension and drivetrain upgrades too (myself included). Yeah..you can mod your ZL1 but that dinky 1.9L SC will limit how far you can go with it...high price tag starting out and high price tag to mod...no warranty... If you have to be faster than the newest GT500 to sleep at night, this current ZL1 isn't worth it....would like a set of it's forged wheels though

11-15-2011, 12:29 PM	#38
z28mass z28 mass Drives: 4 gen of camaros, 2012 ZL1 vin#1499 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Easton Ma Posts: 535	I am still in.

11-15-2011, 12:36 PM	#39
hognutz Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: tangent or Posts: 2,984	I backed in. ha ha my wife said I was bing a P$ssy about the price. I like the Zl1 looks better and for all the power they added to the GT500 in the past it never lapped a track for crap. Didn't want to loose my spot and have the GT500 turn out like it always has a fast car in a stairt line with poor balance.

11-15-2011, 12:41 PM	#40
cyrusthevirus Drives: 2009 chevy cobalt ss, 1989 Iroc-z Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: pa Posts: 75	48-50 starting. bc being at 54 not add options and gg tax n tax will be well out of my range. I could get a track rdy gt500 12 for 50 but i really dont want a ford