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[ShnOmac]

Originally Posted by MisterCamaro69

Pete, I'm about to TAKE YOU TO SCHOOL on the Mustang chassis.......


Oh wait.... Justice Pete... aren't you the dude that has a Pedders chassis development Mustang?

It's not like Pedders has ever pushed the Camaro AND the Mustang to the max.... Sooooo he would he know what they are capable of????

[Mr Twisty]

Originally Posted by ShnOmac

It's not like Pedders has ever pushed the Camaro AND the Mustang to the max.... Sooooo he would he know what they are capable of????

I imagine Paul Tracey and Richard Petty schooled him purdy good... not to mention all the lesser known pro banzai drivers he uses

[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by MisterCamaro69

Pete, I'm about to TAKE YOU TO SCHOOL on the Mustang chassis.......


Oh wait.... Justice Pete... aren't you the dude that has a Pedders chassis development Mustang?












..... nevermind

Nah, I just read magazines and then post here

Originally Posted by ShnOmac

It's not like Pedders has ever pushed the Camaro AND the Mustang to the max.... Sooooo he would he know what they are capable of????

You must have been watching my drove home yesterday

Originally Posted by MisterCamaro69

I imagine Paul Tracey and Richard Petty schooled him purdy good... not to mention all the lesser known pro banzai drivers he uses

I still can't believe Richard Petty knows my name and is a client. I try to play that , but it is RICHARD FREAK'N PETTY

We work with some great driver and engineers. They are incredible. Our Aussie R & D guys are among the very best. When you have access, when you have friends like this... let me re-phrase that, these guys make me look good

[shank0668]

Originally Posted by ShnOmac

It's not like Pedders has ever pushed the Camaro AND the Mustang to the max.... Sooooo he would he know what they are capable of????

He acts like he actually has experience with these cars.

[BigDan]

Originally Posted by ShnOmac

It's not like Pedders has ever pushed the Camaro AND the Mustang to the max.... Sooooo he would he know what they are capable of????

No offense but Pedders hasn't even come close to pushing the Mustang to the MAX.

If you want to see what the Mustang chassis is truly capable of then check out Griggs Racing.

http://www.griggsracing.com/

Pedders 1.2g vs Griggs 1.5g

[garcmol]

Looks the same, albeit more colorful, as the underside of my 91 B4C. It's 22 years old btw.

Anywho....


No, I don't think the Corvette will get a boost in power.

There, we're back on topic.

[Mr Twisty]

Originally Posted by BigDan

No offense but Pedders hasn't even come close to pushing the Mustang to the MAX.

If you want to see what the Mustang chassis is truly capable of then check out Griggs Racing.

http://www.griggsracing.com/

Pedders 1.2g vs Griggs 1.5g

That's a BIW turned race car..... I don't understand the comparison.

[edit] I was wrong, not a BIW, didn't really look into it because of a bad case of DGAS

Pete, got any slicks laying around?

[garcmol]

Originally Posted by MisterCamaro69

That's a BIW turned race car..... I don't understand the comparison.

[edit] I was wrong, not a BIW, didn't really look into it because of a bad case of DGAS

Pete, got any slicks laying around?

I came down with WGAS earlier. 'Bout did it for me.

[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by BigDan

No offense but Pedders hasn't even come close to pushing the Mustang to the MAX.

If you want to see what the Mustang chassis is truly capable of then check out Griggs Racing.

http://www.griggsracing.com/

Pedders 1.2g vs Griggs 1.5g

The Griggs car threw out most of the Mustang chassis bits. Even with all that hardware and expense it pulled ONLY 1.5 Gs on Hoosiers 315/30 ZR18 front and rear (10.5" wheels). On the other hand, the Griggs approach supports what I have been saying for some time, a current generation Mustang needs a LOT OF HELP to put power down on a road course.

Our Mustang is a street car that retains all the original suspension mounting points, runs on STREET tires and maintains steady state 1.38 G turns while delivering a factory quiet and comfortable ride. We never tested on slicks, but is is a safe bet to expect slicks to deliver at least a .12 increase.

[BATMAN!]

Just read that the svt team is answering questions tomorrow at noon about the gt500.

[shank0668]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

The Griggs car threw out most of the Mustang chassis bits. Even with all that hardware and expense it pulled ONLY 1.5 Gs on Hoosiers 315/30 ZR18 front and rear (10.5" wheels). On the other hand, the Griggs approach supports what I have been saying for some time, a current generation Mustang needs a LOT OF HELP to put power down on a road course.

Our Mustang is a street car that retains all the original suspension mounting points, runs on STREET tires and maintains steady state 1.38 G turns while delivering a factory quiet and comfortable ride. We never tested on slicks, but is is a safe bet to expect slicks to deliver at least a .12 increase.

I was going to say. Almost none of that came from the factory. You seem to do more upgrades, not full blown redesigns of suspension.

[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by shank0668

I was going to say. Almost none of that came from the factory. You seem to do more upgrades, not full blown redesigns of suspension.

You are spot on sir. We think the factory guys are pretty bright. They are however constrained by sales department make the car acceptable to a 16 to 99 year old market scope and bean counters if we cheapen this by a nickel here and a dime there and they will never know mentality. That is good for me, because if they did what they want and know how to do I would be selling shoes at Nordstrom

I have a lot of friends that are suspension and vehicle engineers at the Big 3. Most of them race on weekends, work on race cars during the week and still put in 50 or more hours at the office. They share my passion and yours. When we create a new product, our highest praise comes from these same people when they say -- that is exactly what we wanted to do

[Ject]

Originally Posted by BigDan

No offense but Pedders hasn't even come close to pushing the Mustang to the MAX.

If you want to see what the Mustang chassis is truly capable of then check out Griggs Racing.

http://www.griggsracing.com/

Pedders 1.2g vs Griggs 1.5g

That looks to be a complete overhaul on the entire suspension of the car....

[BigDan]

Originally Posted by ShnOmac

It's not like Pedders has ever pushed the Camaro AND the Mustang to the max.

Originally Posted by Ject

That looks to be a complete overhaul on the entire suspension of the car....

Exactly, this is what a Mustang looks like when pushed to the "MAX" by an aftermarket suspension company.


Here is how their less radical Ultimate Street system performs with 300hp on 305 street tires. They also have a lesser entry level "SS" system but I couldn't find any feature videos.



Light Weight, Easy Access: The complete GR40 system saves considerable weight and opens up space in the engine compartment as well, making working on the car a breeze. Using GR40 aluminum spindles and Griggs 13.5” Sport Brake Kit, total OEM parts weight removed is 261 lbs. Installation of the GR40 front end alone removes 30 lbs. from the front end of the car, most of it un-sprung.

Rear Weight Bias Obtainable: Our test car yielded a 50.2% rear weight bias with a full tank of fuel and 210 lb. driver. This was a S197 GT in street trim, with battery in the stock location and all systems stock except for the GR40 chassis and brakes. Additional modifications can be made to a car to move the wieght bias even further to the rear.

Easy Installation: All parts bolt on except for two small stiffener plates to be welded to the rear shock mounts on the rear axle and, in front, four 7/16” holes drilled to facilitate installation.

Incredible Feel, Input & Response: The first impression of all drivers that have tested this chassis is the car drives and feels like it weighs half of its actual weight. All S197 GR40SLA cars require a steering rack change due to dimensional differences, and two racks are offered. For vehicles driven primarily on the street, a variable ratio unit with the same gearing used on 2003-2004 Cobras is recommended. For those that demand quicker response, we offer a very quick-responding steering rack, recommended for autocrossers, drifters and experienced road racers. This system steers faster and more accurately than any GR40 system to date.