ZL1 vs Z06

[9c1ny]

Originally Posted by Thyshallsmite

wait so a c6 like non z06 is faster than a zl1?

I think the LS3 cars will be about even or a little faster, the Zl1 should beat out the LS2 cars

LS3 (base model Vette) bone stock 1/4 is 11.7 currently

LS7 (Z06) bone stock 1/4 is 10.9 currently

[Thyshallsmite]

Originally Posted by 9c1ny

I think the LS3 cars will be about even or a little faster, the Zl1 should beat out the LS2 cars

LS3 (base model Vette) bone stock 1/4 is 11.7 currently

LS7 (Z06) bone stock 1/4 is 10.9 currently

thats kind of depressing, was thinking zl1 was between the z06 and zr1

[DavidW]

the ZL1 was designed to meet the same performance numbers as the vette grand sport , which has the same hp as a regular vette but handles better and has better brakes

[9c1ny]

Originally Posted by Thyshallsmite

thats kind of depressing, was thinking zl1 was between the z06 and zr1

lol no

the ZL1 should be close to the base LS3 Vette which has been in production since 2008, the Grand Sports seem slightly slower for some reason (quite a bit of debate about this on the corvette forum), the ZL1 might get into Z06 territory with a pulley swap , a better intercooler, better tires and a tune...............

[speedmon]

Originally Posted by 9c1ny

ZR1> Z06> 13' GT500> Base Vette/GS > ZL1 > 5.0 Stang > SS

Thats a great way to put that!
So $ weighted, the quickest car per $ spent is probably the C6.

I like my camaro though...even though its slower than a 5.0 stang (Yuk!)...
its easier to drive around town than the vette......but for the track, its vette city!

[IcePick06]

Car and driver did a comparison between the GS and ZL1 and it was pretty dead even. On a track the ZL1 will beat a base vette ...check ring or VIR times and see for yourself.

[Unreal]

Originally Posted by SixGracing

I haven't seen any base vettes here in Utah run better than a low 13 second 1/4. So I'm pretty sure a ZL1 would stomp a base vette in the 1/4. A Z06, that's another story. Don't think that is possible. The ZL1 has more HP and torque, but the Z06 is much lighter and oh so nimble..

I've seen ls3 vettes go 12.7-12.8s up here. Hell my friends c5 vette with intake and exhaust went 12.8s and it is an ls1. z06s 12.0-12.3s. Mine with intake/headers/tune went 11.7s. There are fast vettes around, they just don't come out to play that often.

[LINMUP]

Originally Posted by 9c1ny

I think the LS3 cars will be about even or a little faster, the Zl1 should beat out the LS2 cars

LS3 (base model Vette) bone stock 1/4 is 11.7 currently

LS7 (Z06) bone stock 1/4 is 10.9 currently

No offence..but no way will a bone stock Z06 run 10.9...if someone pulled that time they must have been one hell of a driver and conditions must have been perfect....ZR1 maybe. Z06 is a mid to high 11's car...that's with a drag radial and a good driver....your average Joe isn't going to run those times...someone who spends alot of time at a drag strip and knows how to lauch those cars might.

[capnkirk52]

Originally Posted by speedmon

Thats a great way to put that!
So $ weighted, the quickest car per $ spent is probably the C6.

Base models yes. You can option a vette up pretty quick though, well over the fully optioned GT500.

[Unreal]

Originally Posted by LINMUP

No offence..but no way will a bone stock Z06 run 10.9...if someone pulled that time they must have been one hell of a driver and conditions must have been perfect....ZR1 maybe. Z06 is a mid to high 11's car...that's with a drag radial and a good driver....your average Joe isn't going to run those times...someone who spends alot of time at a drag strip and knows how to lauch those cars might.

People are just comparing the best runs to the best runs. So far that is all accurate. A bone stock z06 has run high 10s. A stock zr1 has run mid 10s. Best for a bone stock zl1 so far is 11.7 from what I've seen. It will probably get better, but not a full second better.

Right off the z06 fast list, bone stock, stock tires.

Rank~~ E.T.~~ Trap~ 60'~ Driver~~~~~ M.Yr. Details Thread Video
1~~~~ 10.981 128.90 1.77 Jamie Furman~ 2006 details~~ thread
2~~~~ 11.025 127.25 1.70 Ranger ~~~~~ 2006 details~~ thread video
3~~~~ 11.177 127.08 1.79 walterm32~~~ 2008 details~~ thread
4~~~~ 11.242 122.38 1.68 Dr.Ron ~~~~~ 2006 details~~ thread
5~~~~ 11.311 122.89 1.80 BLU-BY-U ~~~ 2006 details~~ thread
6~~~~ 11.349 124.97 1.75 zosix427 ~~~~ 2006 details~~
7~~~~ 11.392 124.84 1.92 C5 Frank ~~~~ 2006 details~~ thread
8~~~~ 11.429 124.88 1.86 dgdoc ~~~~~~ 2006 details~~ thread video
9~~~~ 11.443 125.93 1.95 O7zeeO6 ~~~~ 2007 details~~ thread
10~~~ 11.458 124.13 1.80 layjzay~~~~~~ 2006 details~~

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[DroptopZ]

Originally Posted by LINMUP

No offence..but no way will a bone stock Z06 run 10.9...if someone pulled that time they must have been one hell of a driver and conditions must have been perfect....ZR1 maybe. Z06 is a mid to high 11's car...that's with a drag radial and a good driver....your average Joe isn't going to run those times...someone who spends alot of time at a drag strip and knows how to lauch those cars might.

Check the Corvette forum fast list for bone stock... there are several in the high 10s. Heck, a ZR1 has hit 10.6 stock. Ranger started wringing those times out, and others have followed suit.

I am still curious if the '13 GT500 is going to be as fast/faster than the ZL1 around a track. Still doubting it, but I suppose we'll see! Having been around the GS, it is a very manageable track car and very nimble. I have no doubts that the ZL1 is close to or equal to it, which, having ridden around a track in an SS also at its limit, is saying something. As to whether the Mustang camp got it right, time will tell.

[OLD_GOAT]

About the base LS3 Vette running a 11.7, I understand there was some controversy about that time. Supposedly he tuned the car, then removed the tune.

Frankly I think I would say that the best time for a pure bone stock LS3, without anything controversial about it would be right at 11.8.

I know mine hit 12.15 with very few miles on it, and it was totally bone stock.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1568589584-post1.html

[grocerygetter]

You guys doubting vettes....have you owned one? Not driven...owned.