08-07-2013, 09:12 AM | #1 |
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Correct application for spark plugs with NOS!
I am currently installing a nos system on my lfx, and have read in the forums about spark plugs for supercharging, but havent really seen a good answer for nos applications.one step cooler or two? Ngk tr6, or what?any help is appriciated, what are you all running and shot size with it? Also, noticed a good debate on gapping.Once again, from what i have read it was more aimed towards superchargers. I know there is the common rule as well for 2 degrees per 50 hp to retard timing, however, most kits that i have seen havent specified for that on kits of 100hp or less, is this not needed? Thank you all, for your help.
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08-07-2013, 09:22 AM | #2 |
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Autolite XP5263 @.040 gap
so far i only sprayed the 50shot and did not change the timing at all. I will be putting the 100 shot jets in next week and will be having the car tuned on the dyno. My guess, 3 or 4 degrees of timing will be pulled from it. I plan to run a separate tune for the nitrous because of that.
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08-07-2013, 12:25 PM | #3 |
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That is the answer. 100 HP pills FTW.
QUOTE=IneedAZ;6868138]Autolite XP5263 @.040 gap so far i only sprayed the 50shot and did not change the timing at all. I will be putting the 100 shot jets in next week and will be having the car tuned on the dyno. My guess, 3 or 4 degrees of timing will be pulled from it. I plan to run a separate tune for the nitrous because of that.[/QUOTE] |
08-11-2013, 12:10 PM | #4 |
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I guess ive always understoof not to use irradium plugs on a motor w nos, hints why i mentiined the ngk tr6 plug, however i am not familiar sith the direct injected motor, so i assume at this point the rules have changed? Is this what the nos manufacturer suggested?
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08-12-2013, 10:30 AM | #5 |
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Guys you want to run a non projected, copper plug. The reason behind this is because iridium plugs are so tough that by the time the plug burns down something else is already hurt. With a copper plug, ideally you will melt the plug down before something in the motor gets broken.
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08-12-2013, 11:04 AM | #6 |
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Any suggestions on what to use?
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08-12-2013, 11:07 AM | #7 |
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I was told Brisk RR14S...
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08-13-2013, 05:48 PM | #9 |
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Really? That wad what I was gonna run.... hmm
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08-13-2013, 06:18 PM | #10 |
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I hear people talk about not running them with NOS, however a few members on the forum are running them with NOS with over 100 passes without issue.
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08-13-2013, 06:19 PM | #11 |
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How much colder then stock are the Brisk RR14S ?
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08-14-2013, 05:36 AM | #12 |
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Curious for this aswell
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08-14-2013, 05:52 AM | #13 |
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I'm always willing to learn new ideas. How do these plugs run when N/A? What gap do you recommend? So by using those plugs if you end up in a lean condition where the plug would melt quicker than the XPs you mean that could save an engine by not firing the plug due to a melt down of the plug. Leading to a misfire that the driver could feel and hoping the driver lets off of the pedal to save their engine. I could see that reason. In closing if you are melting ANY sparkplug you have bigger issues to address with you nitrous/FI system. I don't mind spending $11.00 per plug, but I'm just asking before I spend so please don't take my questions the wrong way.
"Guys you want to run a non projected, copper plug. The reason behind this is because iridium plugs are so tough that by the time the plug burns down something else is already hurt. With a copper plug, ideally you will melt the plug down before something in the motor gets broken." |
08-14-2013, 08:09 AM | #14 |
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Also, why is there no mention of this plug fitting the LFX camaro?
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