01-02-2014, 12:33 PM | #71 | |
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The real point is why must anybody who does not need this particular nanny be forced to adapt themselves to it with no OE-offered way out? In some cases you're asking people with 40, 50, or more years of "muscle memory" to suddenly replace a fully satisfactory technique with a different one that can cause more problems than it purports to solve. All this just because somebody somewhere ran out of other things to worry about and decided that not only new drivers should never have to learn a basic element of car control but that everybody must be forced to learn the "new" way. Norm |
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01-02-2014, 12:37 PM | #72 | |
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01-02-2014, 06:55 PM | #73 |
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If you want an hsa or need one then buy a damn automatic and leave us true manual transmission drivers alone to enjoy driving the car not it driving us.
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01-02-2014, 07:24 PM | #74 | |
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HSA sucks, but the yaw sensor was a piece of cake to replace and I haven't looked back since! Those of you who say "just get used to the timing" or just wait the two seconds before you go" obviously don't live in the northeast part of the country!! The lack of patience people have around here will get you rear ended for sure!! almost happened to me two or three times before I changed it out!! Just say NO to nannies!! Don't need em! Don't want 'em!!
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01-02-2014, 08:19 PM | #75 |
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The thing that I struggle with is why the HSA is so bad on the Camaro, yet on my '12 Sonic it is so excellent. I've been driving manuals for several years now (my last 4 cars have been stick), so I'm pretty used to starting on hills, and the HSA on my Sonic is subtle enough to know it is there and working, but never a hazard to stall the car. When I test drove a Camaro a few weeks ago I nearly stalled the car due to HSA activating at a steep traffic light.
I wonder if it has to do with the wheels that are being braked being the driven wheels in the Camaro (it only applies the back brakes, correct?)... |
01-02-2014, 08:30 PM | #76 |
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I have a '14 1ls (v6 stick) and it has the hill assist. I hated it at first, but now that ive gotten used to it (rather than get angry and fight it) and learned just how long it takes to get off the brake, you just time your take off accordingly and theres no issue. I generally dislike the hill assist feature, especially in underpowered cars (id almost venture to say the v6 camaro is almost in that list of cars). Ive learned to drive with it, and once or twice, ive been glad i had it as some prick pulls 1" away from my ass end while im not paying attention to the rear view.
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01-02-2014, 09:00 PM | #77 |
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what happens if you use the Hand Brake at the stop? Does HSA still kick in? I've always used the hand brake so the clutch was not abused.
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01-03-2014, 03:08 PM | #78 |
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I'm for sure changing the yaw sensor out on mine I can't stand hill assist but as far as the skip shift it's only kicked on like twice in my car so it doesn't bother me a bit
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01-29-2014, 11:35 PM | #79 |
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01-29-2014, 11:51 PM | #80 |
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Hill assist is annoying. I am glad a DIY is available to fix it. If you have never driven stick before it could be a nice luxury, but for me it just feels so weird. Hill assist activates everyday when I am on campus. Each parking lot is a level higher on campus.
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01-30-2014, 07:37 PM | #82 |
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I've only actually experienced it coming on once, and at the time (backing up a very steep driveway) it was useful. I could see it getting annoying if it kicks in when not needed, but I've yet to experience that. Shift skip on the other hand... ugh.
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01-31-2014, 10:15 AM | #83 |
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I had it happen a few times (like twice) when it was new (less than 1000 miles). Now I can tell when it has engaged (which is almost never) and it poses no issues for me. I think you will feel it now as well, and like me, it rarely happens to you as well.
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01-31-2014, 12:26 PM | #84 |
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I had a hard time on an elevated ramp coming off of the expressway the night I took delivery. I am new to the manual, and actually I was doing pretty good that day.
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