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Old 08-27-2009, 07:29 PM   #301
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Hey Number 3, like that pic... That you Wilson?
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Old 08-27-2009, 07:39 PM   #302
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If i recall correctly it was that the dash ABL didn't pass the extreme heat tests.
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Old 08-28-2009, 12:55 AM   #303
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changing the light color in the lacrosse should be easy. But I believe that its a bulb. I also dont thinK it will fit behind the dash. I know that 2ssrs has the caddy parts coming. I hope they are a small size tube.
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Old 08-28-2009, 01:04 AM   #304
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I asked this question during an IDL, and posted the repsonse some time ago - it was due to glare / safety issues.
Number 3 has said glare.safety issues wasn't the reason for no ABL on the dash as far as she as heard in the meetings while she was testing the cars... I believe Scott "Fbodfather" said it was a over-heat issue causing a melting or discoloration in the dash over long road trips with the test cars with ABL. It would be interesting to know the reason so it could be something to look out for for the DIY ABL happening in this thread.
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Old 08-28-2009, 02:04 AM   #305
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So you are saying that you mods don't believe all the things that come out of the mouth of GM, Like a lot of us.

Did you see how I had a freaking atomic meltdown when we were told no ABL in the dash?...
found this one really quickly...post 51
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post 104
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or how we were going to have B-Pillars added after seeing all the pix of a true coupe concept? Holy hell, Batman...I got a nice little PM (from GM) telling me to REMOVE my post from Z28.com...Yeah.... I tell ya right now. NO. We, the mods, do not always agree. But, that's the best part about having US here..... Without US (all 15,500 of us) GM would NEVER get the feed back so easily as they do by reading our pages.
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TAG, who from GM gave that as the official answer?

If it was, the easy fix would be tone down the brightness level.
I AGREE 100%!!!
I remember it being discussed in meetings...............distracting wasn't the problem.
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Also, it could possibly mess with your night vision on open roads and highways without street lights.
THIS is one of the reasons it does not go across the dash ---

There are others.....

We did not drop the Ambient Lighting on the I.P. to upset customers.....

.....and keep in mind that we, too, are enthusiasts.
However, I thought this one was better...
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Oh - how I WISH stuff didn't get leaked....and I WISH that stuff could be kept in strict confidence................
.............but let us go back over the past couple of years on this site alone..........
............................ain't gonna happen...........

I agree 200% with you -- but based on history - ain't gonna happen.......

In the age of the internet, nothing is 'safe' anymore --

Seriously - we DID want to execute Ambient Lighting across the dash.

(...think about it - why would we purposely show something and then just drop it? -- )

Part of the problem was the distraction at night. I'm here to tell you that it was very distracting.........

Another issue: When accelerated testing was done, you could see 'into' the IP and some of the attaching points.

As I said earlier in this thread -- WE, TOO, are Enthusiasts -- and WE, TOO wanted Ambient Lighting.....but we also know that you have high expectations - and if something isn't going to come out right, then it's wise to say "OK -- we're not going to delay production - and we don't have all of the issues solved, so we're not going to offer it."

Now - there will still be some that want to keep complaining -- and that, I guess, is their perogative -- but I'm trying to explain the "WHY" of no ambient lighting.........
Hope this helps..... I'm just quoting what was posted as one of the reasons it was nixed. Yes, I know that light was not coming out clean from the ABL after heat testing and the dash "moving" simulating being in the sun/heat for long periods of time.
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CTS has lighting on the dash. Light pipe across the I/P and through the doors.
So...it's distracting was one reason. Fine...cool by me. I agree 100% with you in the sense that WE can turn it down should we choose when driving. That is the way I think it SHOULD have been. Anyhow...I have no idea what my point was after all of this....

EDIT: sorry bout the rant...

My point was...I hope ABL comes available. And I REALLY hope 2SSRS comes up with a solution. I've just got to have it!


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First thank you for all you do, Next can you let us know why no light in the dash?.

And i will get the parts on Friday from digi-key but i don't have a lot of time so maybe on Sunday, I know i know what do i got to do, First thing is an alignment after lowering the car 2 1/2" in the rear and 2" in front got to do an alignment, Next if it makes it i got to put on the Vararam and take pics and send out like 40 PM to guys that want more info on it, And on Saturday
Drive to LA to meet the guys at the meet, And bring my front strut for "newgenss" so if i got some time i will do some test and let you know.
Make that 41 PM's!
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Here's a larger size picture of the Buick dash, sorry cel-phone shot,
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Thank you for to mach info,LOL You will be the 2nd PM after Vararam.
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I might have a had a couple too many margaritas last night...hehehe

I remembered getting miffed when we were told no ABL and it allllllll started coming back to me...

Hope Number3 takes no offense. Wasn't meant that way. I just remembered one of the reasons being given and I said the same thing...."just have a dial to turn down the ABL for night driving OR...make it to where the light is turned off automatically when the vehice is put in drive or goes over 2 mph. There are easy fixes. I just want to add my ABL

2SSRS, let me know waht you come up with. I'm all ears, buddy.
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2SSRS, let me know waht you come up with. I'm all ears, buddy.
He's going to do it - 100% functionality as originally intended using GM OEM parts!
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First thank you for all you do, Next can you let us know why no light in the dash?.

And i will get the parts on Friday from digi-key but i don't have a lot of time so maybe on Sunday, I know i know what do i got to do, First thing is an alignment after lowering the car 2 1/2" in the rear and 2" in front got to do an alignment, Next if it makes it i got to put on the Vararam and take pics and send out like 40 PM to guys that want more info on it, And on Saturday
Drive to LA to meet the guys at the meet, And bring my front strut for "newgenss" so if i got some time i will do some test and let you know.
busy guy, I will relax some for ya this weekend
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He's going to do it - 100% functionality as originally intended using GM OEM parts!
Guys thank you for all the help, been a full day i posted some pics of the Vararam on my car and got the parts for the ABL from digi-key it is the same parts that are on the door panel's on the camaro, so now we

have the light, and light pipe now all i have to do is fit it, We will see sone.
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Old 08-28-2009, 06:14 PM   #313
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more pics of behind the dash

Here are some pictures with the plastic piece removed. The best part is that you can see where there are spots to mount the light. It looks like the same squares used to hold down the light tube in the doors.
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Old 08-29-2009, 09:48 PM   #314
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Can't wait to see how this all works out! I am sooooooooo going to add this once you trailblazers have it down to a science.

I read references in this thread to other innovations that Teccboxx has come up with... would anyone mind sharing some with me? I don't know where to begin searching; there are 10 pages of threads where Teccboxx has posted! Just want to know what to look for to narrow down my search. Thanks!
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when this is fully worked out it will be a sure hit
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when this is fully worked out it will be a sure hit
Lol it already is, look at the amount of hits.
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I am not done but this will hold you for a day or two, I need a heat gun and my gun is at a friend's home i will get it in the mourning.
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Hey Tag, I have the complete Stainless Works 2" headers and 3" exhaust system on my car and my engine light came on after a few miles. Did this happen to u? If so did u fix it and how? Thanks for your help, this is BY FAR the best damn sounding exhaust system I have ever heard.
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Awesome, great job, cannot wait to see how you got it to fit.

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Hey Tag, I have the complete Stainless Works 2" headers and 3" exhaust system on my car and my engine light came on after a few miles. Did this happen to u? If so did u fix it and how? Thanks for your help, this is BY FAR the best damn sounding exhaust system I have ever heard.
try sending him a Private message, and SW exhaust are awsome
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I am not done but this will hold you for a day or two, I need a heat gun and my gun is at a friend's home i will get it in the mourning.
great work can't wait to see the rest.
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! more pic for you hope you like it is hard but i did it now i have to order more lights for the doors.
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