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Old 12-31-2015, 09:37 PM   #1
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6 Speed Manual Thoughts

Traveling far to pick up a manual 2SS on Saturday. Just wondering how the TR6060 6 speed is holding up for those lucky enough to be in their rides. Is the shifting action still smooth now that you have some miles on the car?

Any regrets not getting an 8 speed auto?

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Old 12-31-2015, 10:54 PM   #2
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I struggled here, but went with the 6 speed. I just enjoy manuals too much. Think it will sting a little when they'll likely add the 7 speed manual. Here are the advantages I chose to give up; 8 speeds, technically faster, cylinder deactivation = much better MPG, and remote start.

Would have loved the remote start, but since I went with a V8 I just couldn't resist going with the manual transmission. The speed difference likely isn't noticeable. I think most here that are buying the SS don't really care about MPG or can afford the extra gas comfortably. I'm really stretching myself for the 2SS since you only live once so that extra MPG could have saved money somewhere.
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Old 01-01-2016, 12:22 AM   #3
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Only have 110 miles on mine, the weight in the shifter is a lot better than my 5th gen. The gears are very smooth, still in awe at how much more refined this car is.
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Old 01-01-2016, 12:41 AM   #4
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I struggled here, but went with the 6 speed. I just enjoy manuals too much. Think it will sting a little when they'll likely add the 7 speed manual. Here are the advantages I chose to give up; 8 speeds, technically faster, cylinder deactivation = much better MPG, and remote start.

Would have loved the remote start, but since I went with a V8 I just couldn't resist going with the manual transmission. The speed difference likely isn't noticeable. I think most here that are buying the SS don't really care about MPG or can afford the extra gas comfortably. I'm really stretching myself for the 2SS since you only live once so that extra MPG could have saved money somewhere.
The 7 speed doesn't fit in the alpha trans tunnel. You're good.
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Old 01-01-2016, 06:53 AM   #5
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Only have 110 miles on mine, the weight in the shifter is a lot better than my 5th gen. The gears are very smooth, still in awe at how much more refined this car is.
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Took the words right of my mouth, I am at about 500 miles
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Old 01-01-2016, 07:59 AM   #6
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1,059 miles on my 6 speed. Incredibly smooth shifter. Active rev match is great. Drop the clutch and smash the gas on the way up and listen to the rumble on the way down.

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Old 01-01-2016, 09:24 AM   #7
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I struggled here, but went with the 6 speed. I just enjoy manuals too much. Think it will sting a little when they'll likely add the 7 speed manual. Here are the advantages I chose to give up; 8 speeds, technically faster, cylinder deactivation = much better MPG, and remote start.

Would have loved the remote start, but since I went with a V8 I just couldn't resist going with the manual transmission. The speed difference likely isn't noticeable. I think most here that are buying the SS don't really care about MPG or can afford the extra gas comfortably. I'm really stretching myself for the 2SS since you only live once so that extra MPG could have saved money somewhere.
You wouldn't want the 7 speed even if it fit...
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Old 01-01-2016, 10:52 AM   #8
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Thanks for the info on the possibility of the 7 speed. Not that I really even want an extra gear, but thought that the 7 speed has AFM. I know from reading here that AFM hardware is on the 6 speed, but just not activated. Could be wrong on the 7 speed with AFM as I haven't been following the Corvette for years.
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Old 01-01-2016, 11:43 AM   #9
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Traveling far to pick up a manual 2SS on Saturday. Just wondering how the TR6060 6 speed is holding up for those lucky enough to be in their rides. Is the shifting action still smooth now that you have some miles on the car?

Any regrets not getting an 8 speed auto?

Thanks for your thoughts and Happy New Year.
There are positives and negatives to both. It is whether or not you choose to dwell on the positives or the negatives.

Buying the A8, you may as well buy a high horsepower sedan. The personality is lost through the transmission. You can attempt to justify the decision by a .2 difference in ET's, but the fact of the matter is how often do you drive your car at the strip versus the street? Most of these cars will never see a track of any kind, ever. You made the right decision because you are driving a muscle car with a true personality (and the TR6060 has lots of personality). You can build a real track car with an A8 - cam it and throw in an aggressive stall with a shift kit - but most will never do it. With the A8, you can close your eyes and pretend you are driving a Lexus. Don't fall asleep behind the wheel.

The difference between a manual gearbox Camaro and an auto gearbox Camaro is so starkly different I don't see how the two can be compared in terms of driving experience.
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There are positives and negatives to both. It is whether or not you choose to dwell on the positives or the negatives.

Buying the A8, you may as well buy a high horsepower sedan. The personality is lost through the transmission. You can attempt to justify the decision by a .2 difference in ET's, but the fact of the matter is how often do you drive your car at the strip versus the street? Most of these cars will never see a track of any kind, ever. You made the right decision because you are driving a muscle car with a true personality (and the TR6060 has lots of personality). You can build a real track car with an A8 - cam it and throw in an aggressive stall with a shift kit - but most will never do it. With the A8, you can close your eyes and pretend you are driving a Lexus. Don't fall asleep behind the wheel.

The difference between a manual gearbox Camaro and an auto gearbox Camaro is so starkly different I don't see how the two can be compared in terms of driving experience.
Going off of your post brings me back to a question I asked myself. The car in my signature is sitting at an out of state dealership right now waiting to be delivered to me and I was going to order one (almost identical), but without the MRC. I can see the MRC in the A8 making for a nice cruising experience, but with the 6 speed I'm not convinced that the MRC will make much of a difference. Of course this is without ever driving a Camaro6 in any configuration.

Even without the MRC, I'm with you in making my decision to go for the 6 speed. While the A8 has its benefits, I really couldn't go for the A8 on the SS after driving with a 6 speed manual in my 2014 V6 for the last few years. Just didn't seem right. Looking forward to actually driving the SS with the manual transmission.
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Going off of your post brings me back to a question I asked myself. The car in my signature is sitting at an out of state dealership right now waiting to be delivered to me and I was going to order one (almost identical), but without the MRC. I can see the MRC in the A8 making for a nice cruising experience, but with the 6 speed I'm not convinced that the MRC will make much of a difference. Of course this is without ever driving a Camaro6 in any configuration.

Even without the MRC, I'm with you in making my decision to go for the 6 speed. While the A8 has its benefits, I really couldn't go for the A8 on the SS after driving with a 6 speed manual in my 2014 V6 for the last few years. Just didn't seem right. Looking forward to actually driving the SS with the manual transmission.
Nice post. I look at it this way:

The A8 fulfills a need.
The M6 fulfills a want.

Do you NEED a Camaro, or do you WANT a Camaro? Very, very few $40,000-50,000 Camaro's will be purchased out of NEED, but A8's will outnumber M6's greater than 2:1.
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There are positives and negatives to both. It is whether or not you choose to dwell on the positives or the negatives.

Buying the A8, you may as well buy a high horsepower sedan. The personality is lost through the transmission. You can attempt to justify the decision by a .2 difference in ET's, but the fact of the matter is how often do you drive your car at the strip versus the street? Most of these cars will never see a track of any kind, ever. You made the right decision because you are driving a muscle car with a true personality (and the TR6060 has lots of personality). You can build a real track car with an A8 - cam it and throw in an aggressive stall with a shift kit - but most will never do it. With the A8, you can close your eyes and pretend you are driving a Lexus. Don't fall asleep behind the wheel.

The difference between a manual gearbox Camaro and an auto gearbox Camaro is so starkly different I don't see how the two can be compared in terms of driving experience.
Can't be compared? Wow!

You make it seem as if changing gears is all the driving experience is about. Nothing to do with Ride, Handling, Braking, Visibility, Ergonomics. Just gear changing.

Starkly different? Not sure about that. Pretend you're driving a Lexus? If only, LOL. It's a Chevy for Pete's sake.

Sorry, I know I'm coming across as a DB, but I think you are overstating your case, extending your personal love for a manual in your post.

Don't get me wrong, I love driving a good manual. But I've come to enjoy a DCT even more. And those aren't available from GM.

But if you want your Camaro to be a DD and you have traffic and don't really have engaging roads to drive on a regular basis, you will find the automatic to be quite a fun and engaging car to drive. And for that 99.9% or so when you aren't actually changing a gear, the two Camaros, auto and manual, should drive pretty much identically
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Can't be compared? Wow!

You make it seem as if changing gears is all the driving experience is about. Nothing to do with Ride, Handling, Braking, Visibility, Ergonomics. Just gear changing.

Starkly different? Not sure about that. Pretend you're driving a Lexus? If only, LOL. It's a Chevy for Pete's sake.

Sorry, I know I'm coming across as a DB, but I think you are overstating your case, extending your personal love for a manual in your post.

Don't get me wrong, I love driving a good manual. But I've come to enjoy a DCT even more. And those aren't available from GM.

But if you want your Camaro to be a DD and you have traffic and don't really have engaging roads to drive on a regular basis, you will find the automatic to be quite a fun and engaging car to drive. And for that 99.9% or so when you aren't actually changing a gear, the two Camaros, auto and manual, should drive pretty much identically
Agreed. For some of us also, the Camaro fulfills a want AND a need.
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Old 01-01-2016, 04:04 PM   #14
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Interesting points. I wanted remote start and better gas mileage (not sure about the AFM - never had it), but wanted the manual more. Even in traffic I'm much more engaged with the car if that makes sense. I'm excited to get back into a car with some power as well.

My car history is odd, but they were all manual transmissions minus the Volt. The Volt was just a different car and I loved it. Went from a 08Corvette->10CamaroLS->11Volt->14Camaro1LT to my recently unnecessary splurge on the 2SS which should be here very soon. I definitely missed the manual transmission with the Volt, but it was such a different car that it was a nice change.

Not sure I'd say that it's a totally different car depending on transmission, but there is definitely a huge difference and I just couldn't go for the A8 stepping into a high power SS. Looking forward to the 6 speed whether I'm driving to work on cruise control or elsewhere in traffic.

With the SS only coming with summer tires vs the all seasons in the 2LT RS I had looked at, the manual makes even more sense to me. I definitely feel like I have much more control over the vehicle in a manual.
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