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Dodge Viper to end production after 2017
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06-21-2016, 01:21 PM | #2 |
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Sergio's too busy trying to figure out how to shoehorn a Hellcat into every FCA model.
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^^^Yeah that is his "Master Strategy" since his other "Master Strategies" haven't worked out so well.
All FCA has going for it right now is strong performance at Jeep and a good truck. The Hellcats are awesome but I can't believe they are making much money out of them. I fully believe that GM will buy them out in the near future unless they can hit some kind of home run (actually FCA would need several home runs to continue to operate as a large company).
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Waiting on a Hellcat Dart
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Sure, there's the other Italian brands like Alpha and Maserati ... but they're hardly worth spending countless billions to get. Plus, everything that could be considered a core competency at FCA is done just as well at GM. Trucks, SUVs, performance cars ... there is already a stellar group of engineers at GM working on those products. They don't need to bring in a bunch of others to do more of the same. No, if a company is going to buy FCA its going to be one that has a fairly small footprint in North America and does well with smaller cars. Like Hyundia/Kia. A hypothetical 'HKFCA' would have a strong presence in nearly every global market & decent to good offerings in nearly every segment.
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Not going to happen. They sell enough Fiats, Alfas, & Ferraris in Europe to not even worry about what happens here!
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until it comes back
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The Viper was a great car, but priced way too high and is probably a little too hard core for most people.
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They haven't owned Ferrari for a few months now. Fiat and Alfa are beautifully designed but horribly engineered cars. Just look at how much trouble Alfa has had to push the new sport sedan into our market. They might turn a nice profit in Europe but not enough to prop up the excess baggage of the North America side of the company. GM wouldn't need most of FCA, they'd probably only keep a handful of models (the Jeeps, maybe the Charger and likely integrate the Ram engineering that is proving to win out in comparison tests) around and let the rest die. I don't expect they'll have to offer very much at all as it is becoming more and more of a fire sale situation. The other poster noted that GM has killed off brands that they could revive but really none of them had much respect in the market other than MAYBE Pontiac and the Hummers to a small percentage (even though the final Hummer products were pieces of shit). What GM does have is a few small holes in their lineup (off-road inspired SUVs, Cop Cars, etc.) and the experience with cherry picking from their brand portfolio to come out the other side.
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You'll be waiting a while. The Dart is being discontinued (all that engineering, designing, testing, etc., was for nothing). What a waste of money and resources.
Agreed. It has been stated that the Viper is merely taking a hiatus for now. It isn't being killed off completely. There is a very good possibility that it WILL be back!
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Let's not forget Sergio admitting FCA copied Hyundai with the 200, or that other companies were better at building compact cars.
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