ZL1-LSA-MR+LS7+Pedders Coilovers = Z28?

[Mikes SS]

I am not talking about the weight of the engine and really don't care. The ZL1 is heavier than the GT500 and has less HP and it can still hang. It's all about getting it to the ground and keeping it there in turns. The weight of the car itself matters and if the BOSS weighs X amount less than the Camaro, than the Camaro needs Y amount of more horsepower and the right gears to even it out. Like I said before, if they can sqeeze out 444hp from 5 liters, GM should try to squeeze 480HP from the 5.3 DI and make it a drivers race, and not about who's is bigger.

[OldScoolCamaro]

...remember when they thought the world was flat???? Just sayin........FYI, the 5.5L rumor is not totally dead...a little birdie told me....wheres Carnac when you need him....

[Mikes SS]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

Well what if the 5.3 doesn't put out more power than the 5.0?

Why shouldn't it? you mean to tell me the engineers in Dearborn are better than the ones in Detroit?

[Norm Peterson]

Originally Posted by Mikes SS

Why shouldn't it?

Assuming that any new Chevy 5.3-ish motor is still a pushrod design, is less than a 10% displacement advantage enough to cover for 4 valves/cylinder and variable valve timing (and the midrange and emissions advantages that likely go along with it)?

While fully realizing the historical significance of 5.3L (aka "327"), I'm not entirely convinced it'd be quite enough.


Norm

[OldScoolCamaro]

Hope this thread isn't goin' like the ZL1 pee'ing matches....just sayin you new guys. We been comin' here for along time to talk and hang out without all that BS. Let's keep it chill....ok?

[2cnd chance]

In some things nostalgia shouldn't get in the way, ie. a Z28 5.0.

The Gen1 Z28 was a "race car" built for the street/track. One of the best all around packages available for the time. So using a Gen5 Camaro what combination of available parts would create the best possible Camaro "race car" for the street/track today?

[PYROLYSIS]

We still know very little about the gen V SBC. GM can just about make whatever they want right now, just a question of what they want. Also, when did the first model year for the sixth gen Camaro get announced? Did I miss it? I see a lot of people stating the same thing like its fact.

[PYROLYSIS]

Old School I guess your post got deleted. I was responding to Norm and was saying that i have faith that the new v-8s shouldn't have any trouble standing up to the competition. Also, like most on this thread I believe that GM is capable of building a Z28 that would do us proud no matter the engine. (it better have 8 cylinders).

[Fightinfire921]

Originally Posted by PYROLYSIS

Old School I guess your post got deleted. I was responding to Norm and was saying that i have faith that the new v-8s shouldn't have any trouble standing up to the competition. Also, like most on this thread I believe that GM is capable of building a Z28 that would do us proud no matter the engine. (it better have 8 cylinders).

Any thing less would be an epic failure and they know it.

[Mikes SS]

This is by no means a pissing contest..all just speculation and point of view...I refer back to the comment that says GM won't build a "one off" engine just for the Z/28..engines are all about heads and cams, I am SURE they can get 480hp out of a GenV 5.3, and why wouldn't they do a "one off"? FORD did. Since all of this is speculation anyway cause as was previously pointed out, we know jack about the GenV motors anyway. Let's just say its possible, GM doesn't have to do anything to this mystery engine when the 6th gen rolls around 3-4 years from now and the car is already lets say 400lbs lighter..the stats for the 6th gen would best the 5th gen just for that one reason.

[OldScoolCamaro]

I deleted the post. I get it guys, it'a all passion, but, let's just stay within the lines. We haven't had any issues here....for the longest time, and this is the last bastion of level headed decent discusion we have on the C5 board is the Z28 section....Thats all.....no biggie. If this goes to pot then we are S out of luck.

[2cnd chance]

Bottom line is a DI would be cool in a Gen5 Z28. I just don't see that happening.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by Mikes SS

Why shouldn't it? you mean to tell me the engineers in Dearborn are better than the ones in Detroit?

Because the two engines are totally different. If the current push rod 6.2 makes 426 and the current DOHC 302 makes 444, do you really expect the next 5.3 push rod to make as much?

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

Because the two engines are totally different. If the current push rod 6.2 makes 426 and the current DOHC 302 makes 444, do you really expect the next 5.3 push rod to make as much?

Exactly. Why would anyone go for a 5.3???