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CanadianCamaro · 08-20-2009, 08:57 PM

Had this problem at first. Focused on the accuracy of that particular shift a bit more while "spirited driving". Made sure I was guiding the stick to the appropriate spot, quick but without slamming it, firm pressure but don't force it (remember what dad said, don't force it lol). Last little while it's been smooth as butter. Even gettin' a little chirp going into 4th (ok, can you still call that "spirited driving"?)

Skyblu · 08-26-2009, 12:12 PM

Mine does it from first to second sometimes.

imstr8upg · 08-26-2009, 02:06 PM

I get 2-3 grind now and again. I have 4K miles on mine, next time I'm in the dealer I might have them take a look at it too.

tom692010 · 08-27-2009, 01:54 AM

Wow you all have exactly the issue I'm having. 2-3. I went spirited driving last night and out of 4x I couldn't get it into third at all. Like 1 of you said sitting there it goes in like butter, When not spirited driving it also doesn't go into gear smoothly. At least I now have some evidence of an issue and where to start looking. I also was getting pissed off. That's why I'm on the forum at 12:50 am. Maybe now I can sleep!

mustache143 · 09-04-2009, 10:47 AM

I have about 450 miles on my 2SS and have noticed twice now that its very easy to accidentally shift back into first instead of third. This morning on my way to work I was travelling about 35-40 mph and intended to go into third. However, it very easily slid into first and to my horror the rpms flew right up to about 5000 as I let off the clutch. I was trying very hard not to go over 4000rpm for the first 1500 miles of the break in. Any ideas? I feel like it should not allow me to easily shift back down to first at that speed.

Chrisrp454 · 09-04-2009, 10:53 AM

I have about 600 miles on mine, it is a daily driver. No issues shifting so far, cept for the clutch being tighter than my 4th gen he he but is has 245000+ on her.

Mi P · 09-05-2009, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mustache143

I have about 450 miles on my 2SS and have noticed twice now that its very easy to accidentally shift back into first instead of third. This morning on my way to work I was travelling about 35-40 mph and intended to go into third. However, it very easily slid into first and to my horror the rpms flew right up to about 5000 as I let off the clutch. I was trying very hard not to go over 4000rpm for the first 1500 miles of the break in. Any ideas? I feel like it should not allow me to easily shift back down to first at that speed.

By default, the shifter wants to naturally reside in-between 3-4 while in between shifts. I have jsut over 400 on mine now and well Im not sure how you could have gotten it, a soft/easy shift forces it towards 3rd from 2nd.

As for the 'grinding' are you guys referencing true Grinding of gears, or jsut an abrasive feeling at the shift area? I noticed if you half ass the clutch it you can get a gear grind, but I do not notice anything on the shift pattern that is flawed. IMHO.

tom692010 · 09-08-2009, 05:49 PM

I thought I had a problem after the last trip to the track,so I made an appointment to have the trans looked at. Behind the dealer is a nice long straightaway so I figured this would be great for showing the service rep my problem. Well 3x I went down there and 3x I hit third everytime. I can't believe I was that screwqed up at the track that day. Well going tomorrow again...we'll see!

Motoscene · 09-15-2009, 03:33 AM

I thought it was just me having this problem? Its getting harder and harder to shift to 1-2. No matter how fast im going. All the other gears are fine.
What do you guys think?

JerseyMonte · 09-15-2009, 06:22 AM

Is this an early production problem?
Usualy if a problem exists on earlier
production vins, the engineers will examine
the claims , and alter the production run
on later models, ie. Battery cable, output shaft,
loose spoilers. Just a thought

WICKEDSS · 09-15-2009, 01:53 PM

I WORK AT A CHEVY DEALER HERE IN ODESSA. TALK TO A TECH ABOUT THE WALL WHEN TRYING TO SHIFT HE SAYS ITS NORMALY. IT ONLY HAPPEN TO ME WHEN TRYING TO SHIFT TO FAST HE TOLD ME THAT IT IS GOING TO DO THAT TO STOP YOU FROM MESSING ANY THING UP IN SIDE THE TRANS. NOW IF IT IS DOING IT AT A SLOW EASY SHIFT YOU HAVE A PROBLEM...BUT FROM WHAT HE IS TELLING ME YOU CANT SPEED SHIFT THESE CARS LIKE BEFORE...BUMMER

zebra · 09-15-2009, 02:04 PM

i know the 4th gen t-56s had the bad 2-3 shift when you got on it, but that was due to a restriction in the line from the master to slave cylinders. has anybody tried to do the drill mod on the 5th gen yet?

LS 1st gen · 09-15-2009, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zebra

i know the 4th gen t-56s had the bad 2-3 shift when you got on it, but that was due to a restriction in the line from the master to slave cylinders. has anybody tried to do the drill mod on the 5th gen yet?

This could play in with the combined brake fluid & clutch cylinder issue...I would be interested to see the drill mod done on one of these.

mtcwby · 09-16-2009, 12:04 AM

When you shift to third from 2nd, don't use your thumb at all. Don't grab the knob.
Just use the palm of your hand with the fingers up. Push the shifter toward the radio.
The strong centering spring in the shifter will put it in line with 3rd, you don't have to.
Your shifter is self centering for 3rd and 4th gear. Try this and you will NEVER miss a shift. Also when you pull the shifter from 1st to 2nd, and from 3rd to 4th just cup your
fingers over the shifter knob. Get in the habit of never using your thumb on the knob and you will notice you will shift smoother and faster.
You might find the following link to be very helpful.

http://rangeracceleration.com/Improved_Shifting.html

08-20-2009, 08:57 PM	#15
CanadianCamaro Drives: 2SS/RS IOM - A.K.A. DA ;) Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 2,046	Had this problem at first. Focused on the accuracy of that particular shift a bit more while "spirited driving". Made sure I was guiding the stick to the appropriate spot, quick but without slamming it, firm pressure but don't force it (remember what dad said, don't force it lol). Last little while it's been smooth as butter. Even gettin' a little chirp going into 4th (ok, can you still call that "spirited driving"?) __________________ "BBOMG - More than just a car show.... It's an experience!"

08-26-2009, 02:06 PM	#17
imstr8upg Drives: 2010 Chevy Camaro LT1 RS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Port Orchard, WA Posts: 41 View My Garage	I get 2-3 grind now and again. I have 4K miles on mine, next time I'm in the dealer I might have them take a look at it too. __________________

09-04-2009, 10:53 AM	#20
Chrisrp454 Drives: 2010 ABM 2SS/RS M6, 98Z28 M6 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Granbury, Tx Posts: 1,532 View My Garage	I have about 600 miles on mine, it is a daily driver. No issues shifting so far, cept for the clutch being tighter than my 4th gen he he but is has 245000+ on her. __________________ Always Remember! Rest in Peace Brothers 9/11/2001. And thanks to all those who defend and serve! Ordered 5/23/2009 3400 with TPW of 08/03/09 3800 8/11/2009 Arrived 8/21/2009 2SS/RS/Aqua Blue/Grey Interior

09-15-2009, 06:22 AM	#24
JerseyMonte Drives: 1972 Z28 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southern New Jersey Posts: 355	Early production Vins Is this an early production problem? Usualy if a problem exists on earlier production vins, the engineers will examine the claims , and alter the production run on later models, ie. Battery cable, output shaft, loose spoilers. Just a thought

09-15-2009, 02:04 PM	#26
zebra just can't seem to leave Drives: your mom wild!! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: cold & windy Posts: 10,625 View My Garage	i know the 4th gen t-56s had the bad 2-3 shift when you got on it, but that was due to a restriction in the line from the master to slave cylinders. has anybody tried to do the drill mod on the 5th gen yet? __________________ Eve ('00 FRC): hot-air intake Rowan ('09 H3): 5spd mom-mobile Penny ('99 Sierra): 5.3 / HD 5spd... gone but not forgotten Samson ('18 HD): compounded 408

08-26-2009, 12:12 PM	#16
Skyblu Drives: 2010 Aqua blue 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 993	Mine does it from first to second sometimes.

08-27-2009, 01:54 AM	#18
tom692010 Account Suspended Drives: 4 wheels Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Here Posts: 1,404	Wow you all have exactly the issue I'm having. 2-3. I went spirited driving last night and out of 4x I couldn't get it into third at all. Like 1 of you said sitting there it goes in like butter, When not spirited driving it also doesn't go into gear smoothly. At least I now have some evidence of an issue and where to start looking. I also was getting pissed off. That's why I'm on the forum at 12:50 am. Maybe now I can sleep!

09-04-2009, 10:47 AM	#19
mustache143 Drives: Camaro 2SS - Rally Yellow Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 7	I have about 450 miles on my 2SS and have noticed twice now that its very easy to accidentally shift back into first instead of third. This morning on my way to work I was travelling about 35-40 mph and intended to go into third. However, it very easily slid into first and to my horror the rpms flew right up to about 5000 as I let off the clutch. I was trying very hard not to go over 4000rpm for the first 1500 miles of the break in. Any ideas? I feel like it should not allow me to easily shift back down to first at that speed.

09-08-2009, 05:49 PM	#22
tom692010 Account Suspended Drives: 4 wheels Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Here Posts: 1,404	I thought I had a problem after the last trip to the track,so I made an appointment to have the trans looked at. Behind the dealer is a nice long straightaway so I figured this would be great for showing the service rep my problem. Well 3x I went down there and 3x I hit third everytime. I can't believe I was that screwqed up at the track that day. Well going tomorrow again...we'll see!

09-15-2009, 03:33 AM	#23
Motoscene Drives: 2010 Camaro V6 M6 #532 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Corpus Christi, TX Posts: 6	I thought it was just me having this problem? Its getting harder and harder to shift to 1-2. No matter how fast im going. All the other gears are fine. What do you guys think?

09-15-2009, 01:53 PM	#25
WICKEDSS Dan Drives: THE BEAST Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: ODESSA,TX Posts: 336	I WORK AT A CHEVY DEALER HERE IN ODESSA. TALK TO A TECH ABOUT THE WALL WHEN TRYING TO SHIFT HE SAYS ITS NORMALY. IT ONLY HAPPEN TO ME WHEN TRYING TO SHIFT TO FAST HE TOLD ME THAT IT IS GOING TO DO THAT TO STOP YOU FROM MESSING ANY THING UP IN SIDE THE TRANS. NOW IF IT IS DOING IT AT A SLOW EASY SHIFT YOU HAVE A PROBLEM...BUT FROM WHAT HE IS TELLING ME YOU CANT SPEED SHIFT THESE CARS LIKE BEFORE...BUMMER

09-16-2009, 12:04 AM	#28
mtcwby High on "The Camaro Life" Drives: 2010 2SS, IOM, LS3, Vortech, LG cam Join Date: May 2009 Location: Big Sandy, MT & Yuma, AZ Posts: 1,028 View My Garage	When you shift to third from 2nd, don't use your thumb at all. Don't grab the knob. Just use the palm of your hand with the fingers up. Push the shifter toward the radio. The strong centering spring in the shifter will put it in line with 3rd, you don't have to. Your shifter is self centering for 3rd and 4th gear. Try this and you will NEVER miss a shift. Also when you pull the shifter from 1st to 2nd, and from 3rd to 4th just cup your fingers over the shifter knob. Get in the habit of never using your thumb on the knob and you will notice you will shift smoother and faster. You might find the following link to be very helpful. http://rangeracceleration.com/Improved_Shifting.html __________________ "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who are not."-Thomas Jefferson------Going Strong at 39,250 miles

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