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*The_Blur* · 11-17-2011, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by coolman

The shame for Dodge is they have the best looking car. It's a shame that they don't make it perform like it looks. I would buy a challenger tomorrow if they put the challenger body on the ZL1 platform and drivetrain.

coolman · 11-17-2011, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Blur

Sorry but I'm an old timer mopar man that was converted to chevy. I can't help that I still have a little Joe Dirt in me.

Uneducated Guess · 11-17-2011, 05:27 PM

blur...what carrier is that in your sig?

rayhawk · 11-17-2011, 06:19 PM

I think the Viper will suffice as the halo car, and the srt-8 is a good car for the money. The new 6.4L is a nice motor, if they go to an aluminum block it could be one hell of a setup. No, it will not compete with the ZL1 or GT500, but it is also significantly more affordable than those cars.

archtaan · 11-17-2011, 06:58 PM

It will be interesting if the v10 makes into the Challenger. The Gen4 Viper V10 engine weighs 711 pounds, not sure how much the 392 hemi weighs, but the 392 is an iron block. We already know its a drop in, but the LC/Tremec cant handle the HP/TQ without some mods.

Regardless, the ZL1 and the GT500 are going to own the Challengers and Chargers on the track, both circuit and drag. If Dodge adds a blower to the 392, all we are going to see is 570hp or so and there will not be an option to make pulley changes and other tuning mods to help catch up with the ZL1 and GT500 power levels.

Chrysler has stacks of Gen 4 Viper motors just sitting around with no homes. The Drag Paks are getting some of the motors. The next Viper will have a Gen 5 motor that will probable displace 8.7 liters or so and 700hp or so normally aspirated.

The Viper is going to absolutely own the ZR1 unless Chevy makes some big changes next year, the last Viper is already was within .1 0-60 and 1/4 mile and the last edition ACR ran the Ring in 7:12. The ACR also ran Laguna Seca in 1:33! (Thats 7 seconds faster than a GT-R or LC Boss mustang and 2 seconds faster than the ZR1.)

lbls1 · 11-17-2011, 07:49 PM

At this stage I wouldn't count anyone out of this race. Dodge might go viper sh*t on us and come out full steam with a 10 cylinder job.

We're in the big leagues now, and nothing should be taken for granted.

Kyle2k · 11-17-2011, 07:56 PM

Supposedly they are working on a supercharged 6.4....which will most likely get single digit mpg....

Uneducated Guess · 11-17-2011, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle2k

which will most likely get single digit mpg....

bowtiefamily · 11-17-2011, 08:14 PM

Well I think Dodge has over priced themselves out of the game. A buddy has a SRT8 and he paid $48K and my 11 2SS is much faster ( stock to stock ), $13K cheaper and has a better resale value. I really do like all of the pony cars now but my heart and $$$ go to GM.

hognutz · 11-17-2011, 08:30 PM

I really wish dodge would get challenger to handle well love the looks but just like my 300c hate the handling

HEMI DAVE · 11-17-2011, 08:35 PM

He who laughs last.........

oldfriend · 11-17-2011, 08:37 PM

And i thought that i was the one dodging , but it seems that there are many others that do dodge at all costs .

The IOM Ninja · 11-17-2011, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Uneducated Guess

I knew a guy with an srt-10....it was pretty ridiculous for a truck.

I also knew a guy with an srt-4. all he could do was brag about how fast it was. all i could do was make fun of him for driving a neon.

Not that a Cobalt SS is any better lol

evh5150vanhalen · 11-17-2011, 08:51 PM

Chrysler just showed off the 300 426S, a 426 hemi crate engine 540hp 530 lb-ft torque. "" at the moment all they're trying to do is measure your reaction to the idea of it — and whether or not there's a real market for it"".
judging by that statement if they figure there's a market for it i could see dodge throwing that into a challenger to atleast "TRY" to compete.

11-17-2011, 06:19 PM	#46
rayhawk Drives: Camaro SS Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 1,060 View My Garage	I think the Viper will suffice as the halo car, and the srt-8 is a good car for the money. The new 6.4L is a nice motor, if they go to an aluminum block it could be one hell of a setup. No, it will not compete with the ZL1 or GT500, but it is also significantly more affordable than those cars. __________________

11-17-2011, 07:49 PM	#48
lbls1 Drives: 2002 Camaro SS SOM; 2015 Malibu LTZ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 4,038	At this stage I wouldn't count anyone out of this race. Dodge might go viper sht on us and come out full steam with a 10 cylinder job. We're in the big leagues now, and nothing should be taken for granted. __________________ '02 CAMARO SS SOM; 5.7L LS1/FLS6B* '08 TBSS AWD Black Granite Metallic '15 Malibu LTZ 2LZ Turbo *'14 CAMARO ZL1 Blue Ray Metallic*

11-17-2011, 07:56 PM	#49
Kyle2k LVL 50 Troll Stomper Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 3,463	Supposedly they are working on a supercharged 6.4....which will most likely get single digit mpg.... __________________

11-17-2011, 08:30 PM	#52
hognutz Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: tangent or Posts: 2,984	I really wish dodge would get challenger to handle well love the looks but just like my 300c hate the handling __________________ shopping for 2017+1le or zl1 2009 CTS-V -sold 2015 Hellcat-sold 2013 ZL1 -sold 2007 Z06- sold 2014 Chrysler 300 2011 Duramax 8" lift, deleted tuned

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11-17-2011, 05:27 PM	#45
Uneducated Guess '12 ZL1 #742 Drives: his wife crazy Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Wilson, NC Posts: 1,055	blur...what carrier is that in your sig?

11-17-2011, 06:58 PM	#47
archtaan Drives: car Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: USA Posts: 305	It will be interesting if the v10 makes into the Challenger. The Gen4 Viper V10 engine weighs 711 pounds, not sure how much the 392 hemi weighs, but the 392 is an iron block. We already know its a drop in, but the LC/Tremec cant handle the HP/TQ without some mods. Regardless, the ZL1 and the GT500 are going to own the Challengers and Chargers on the track, both circuit and drag. If Dodge adds a blower to the 392, all we are going to see is 570hp or so and there will not be an option to make pulley changes and other tuning mods to help catch up with the ZL1 and GT500 power levels. Chrysler has stacks of Gen 4 Viper motors just sitting around with no homes. The Drag Paks are getting some of the motors. The next Viper will have a Gen 5 motor that will probable displace 8.7 liters or so and 700hp or so normally aspirated. The Viper is going to absolutely own the ZR1 unless Chevy makes some big changes next year, the last Viper is already was within .1 0-60 and 1/4 mile and the last edition ACR ran the Ring in 7:12. The ACR also ran Laguna Seca in 1:33! (Thats 7 seconds faster than a GT-R or LC Boss mustang and 2 seconds faster than the ZR1.)

11-17-2011, 08:14 PM	#51
bowtiefamily Drives: Chevrolet Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Northwest Indiana Posts: 588 View My Garage	Well I think Dodge has over priced themselves out of the game. A buddy has a SRT8 and he paid $48K and my 11 2SS is much faster ( stock to stock ), $13K cheaper and has a better resale value. I really do like all of the pony cars now but my heart and $$$ go to GM.

11-17-2011, 08:37 PM	#54
oldfriend Drives: Fiat 500 E Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: 32.7607/N. 16.95947/W Posts: 7,816 View My Garage	And i thought that i was the one dodging , but it seems that there are many others that do dodge at all costs .

11-17-2011, 08:51 PM	#56
evh5150vanhalen Drives: 2010 ABM Camaro 2SS Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 167	Chrysler just showed off the 300 426S, a 426 hemi crate engine 540hp 530 lb-ft torque. "" at the moment all they're trying to do is measure your reaction to the idea of it — and whether or not there's a real market for it"". judging by that statement if they figure there's a market for it i could see dodge throwing that into a challenger to atleast "TRY" to compete.