GM SEMA Camaro 1LE Concept Announced!

[Runin11z]

Originally Posted by Fraxum

Just trying to keep the costs down to hit the 40K mark. The stock brakes hold up just fine for most track events. 75 hp on the LS3 will be tough without a cam.

But I like the idea of 75. LS7 of course, but then $45-50K is more like it.

Also they can ditch the ground effects. Gingerbread.

For 40k you are not going to have a camaro that performs on level with the big dogs of this segment. Take that Copo 9562 add 427, safety, Hd drivetrain, MRC, Manual only, and let's not forget Z/28...

This is not in detail but you get the drift.

[Runin11z]

43k or so you can figure an SS with the 1le package

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by Atom

All
This concept seems to be generating the most discussion so far, and I'm not surprised at ALL.
I wanted to pass along the "updated" 1LE concept sketch that was released for Autoweek. The content shown on the car is the same, but I had added some more reflections, updated logo and more realistic wheels.
For those of you who enjoy the artwork, here ya go!

Take care.........and look for more photos of all the cars this week from SEMA.

Adam!! It's GREAT! Must Produce!!!!

Call it 1LE...or call it Z28...but build it!!! "Grand Sport" Camaro...with attitude!

[Unrestricted]

Love it!! Only thing missing is the ZL1 3.73 gear ratio....

[2cnd chance]

1LE performance package + 1SS = $40,000.

1LE performance package + 2SS = $44,000.

Add $6K to $7K for an LS7 option.

[SS 376]

Is the 1LE definitely going to happen in the near future or is it just a thought exercise by GM?

[slick rick]

Originally Posted by SS 376

Is the 1LE definitely going to happen in the near future or is it just a thought exercise by GM?

Who knows?

How many of the SEMA GM Camaro concepts went to production?

Synergy green Camaro and?

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by Milk 1027

so you disagree that it would add more cost?
Do you understand how it works?
You remove things like pwer windows and power seats, they're going to have to use other part like manual windows and seat levers to replace them. Items that are currently not in the parts bin.
Hence = added cost.

Another idea is they could always make that a "Delete" option like in the old days you could order a car with "Heater Delete"

[Runin11z]

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

1LE performance package + 1SS = $40,000.

1LE performance package + 2SS = $44,000.

Add $6K to $7K for a Z/28LS7 option.

Looks pretty close to me.....

[Shock Em]

Originally Posted by TaylorRyanSS

Love the GFX!

With the exception of the GFX, this looks eerily similar to your car lol

[TaylorRyanSS]

Originally Posted by SwiftDream

With the exception of the GFX, this looks eerily similar to your car lol

Kinda. I like mine more though But I do like what they did with the hood and hash marks.

[nak3dsnake]

Originally Posted by SS 376

Is the 1LE definitely going to happen in the near future or is it just a thought exercise by GM?

They might. I mean they just released the High volume Fuel pump form the ZL1 as a GMPP part. Who knows what else they may do the same with.

[Fraxum]

Originally Posted by Runin11z

For 40k you are not going to have a camaro that performs on level with the big dogs of this segment. Take that Copo 9562 add 427, safety, Hd drivetrain, MRC, Manual only, and let's not forget Z/28...

This is not in detail but you get the drift.

When you say performs, do you mean 1/4 mile? This is not what the 1LE and Z28 are all about. If you want the big dog pony up for the ZL1. The Boss is the target. The ZL1 is TOO MUCH. The 1LE should be just enough.

One thing is for sure, ditch the ground effects along with the MR. The GE adds more cost extra and weight no benefit. Bad idea for this car. Make it optional a least.

[Runin11z]

Originally Posted by Fraxum

When you say performs, do you mean 1/4 mile? This is not what the 1LE and Z28 are all about. If you want the big dog pony up for the ZL1. The Boss is the target. The ZL1 is TOO MUCH. The 1LE should be just enough.

One thing is for sure, ditch the ground effects along with the MR. The GE adds more cost extra and weight no benefit. Bad idea for this car. Make it optional a least.

Like I said this was not in detail. But since you asked lets start this, The idea is to use parts easily sourced in the parts bin. Also to utilize new technology. Let's get this out of the way first, a 1SS with a 1le package should be around 43k, 2SS with a 1le package should be around 46k, and the Z/28 should be around 52k. These are at best rough estimates and do not include optional RS packaging.

In which the ZL1 will out perform them all. For one I agree the extra stuff like splitters and gfx could be axed, but we are a society of compromise and you must admit the package does look intimidating.

Please understand my intentions by stating the "package" that I said in my earlier post. I used the COPO as a reference to weight. 427 LS7 due to this is an engine already in production and has went through reliability and emission testing. MRC as it has proven to work on not only the Camaro but the fastest production sedan in the world and Corvettes. Not to mention the MRC they utilized in those platforms are not as advanced as the ZL1. All the rest of the things said are mandatory in installing this engine so there forth pretty self explanitory.

When I say perform I am understating the premise. I want the Z/28 to dominate domestic tracks first then to be recognized as a world performer once well established here in America. Like I said before "I want GM to decimate all direct competition" this is key to the cars success not only in America but abroad. This is road course oriented just in case you missed the gist.

Let me ask you a question, would you want a 40k Camaro that performs on a road course slightly slower or as you put it "JUST ENOUGH" than the competition eg. Boss LS, BMW M3, Porsche Cayman R, and Audi RS4? Or would you be completely stoked about a low 50k Camaro that blows the competition away and sets the bar of performance in this category on a new level and knocks the competition on its ear, making the competition go back to the drawing board.

Here are my only issues with my idea. The 427 is not really a Z/28 esque CID, but you have to admit the C5r it was derived from was a killer on the track. But since it holds the same architecture as all other LS engines I don't feel so bad about the displacement. Also you must think about weight I say keep the dry sump since the ZL1 is close to 50/50 distribution. Meaning less changes to the chassis to compensate for the loss of the SC on the LSA, also dry sump has proven advantages on those banked tracks and high G cornering. Before we get into packaging issues. Let it be known either way as long as its a close to 500 hp LS engine I won't complain.

I have a whole myriad of thoughts about this model and how it can boost profit and production, but I will save that for another post. Maybe GM should hire me....




LOL JK

Here I will share a bit more for you hardcore enthusiasts. Take the 1le and apply old concepts like dealer installed performance parts, a few names come to mind right off the bat Pfadt and Pedders. This is just the tip of the iceberg, but just think the possibility is limitless......