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Old 08-13-2013, 03:46 PM   #15
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Ok thanks for all the input, so tvs still pull just as hard if not harder up top and at higher speeds? More difficult decision than i thought now
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Old 08-13-2013, 03:58 PM   #16
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Don't need to run the mile for a centri to shine. The misinformed is hilarious.
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Old 08-13-2013, 04:11 PM   #17
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Old 08-13-2013, 04:49 PM   #18
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Don't need to run the mile for a centri to shine. The misinformed is hilarious.
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I never said until the mile, I said events like the mile.
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Old 08-13-2013, 05:26 PM   #19
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Too vague. Which would win a race, a red car or a black car?

Whipple making 750rwhp would kill a 500rwhp p1sc car. 800rwhp Novi1500 car will kill a 500rwhp TVS2300 car.

Now equal power, depends on gearing, tuning, traction, etc.
Lol. That's a no brainer ... Black car wins every time. .
If the car spends time street driving I like the roots blower, low end torque is where the fun is at.
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Old 08-13-2013, 05:48 PM   #20
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For reference my friends TT car making ~650rwhp raced a "700rwhp" Maggie and put bus lengths on it. I mean, it was ugly for the Maggie car.
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Old 08-13-2013, 06:11 PM   #21
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Put a high stall on your car and the centri will own all the way through.
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Old 08-13-2013, 06:53 PM   #22
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At mild boost, the Roots will win. 6psi all the way through the run is going to beat a centri that just sees 6psi right before shifting (and less after the shift). 6psi from a Roots blower doesn't make significantly less hp than 6psi from a centri. 12psi from a Roots blower will make way less hp than 12psi from a centri when meth is used on both. When boost gets high enough to the point of needing more octane and chemical intercooling, the centri wins big time. That's pretty plain and simple...to me anyway
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Old 08-13-2013, 09:30 PM   #23
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I will give you the best example I know of from personal experience. My buddy and I have fairly similar cars, his centri and mine PD. I know the cars are not identical, but I believe it is a fairly good example of what you guys are debating here.

His car...
2010 Corvette GS, manual, LS3, ECS centri, cam, meth, 12lbs of boost. 744rwhp and I forget the exact torque number

My car... last year as I don't have a clean run on my new build yet.

2007 Corvette convertible, auto A6, eforce, meth , 12lbs of boost. 600 rwhp / 640 rwtq.
stock cam, stock converter

Both cars on 275 / 17 MT's. I know some will say the auto is easier to drive, but he has managed better 60 ft times than I have so that point is dead.

Best with the centri. 10.22 @ 137 60ft time 1.46

Best with PD 10.42 @ 133 60ft time 1.62

Same boost, similar weights and obviously suspensions.

Now that I have more power, and a converter I will obviously be quicker than last year. I believe both these cars are capable of high 9 second times with the right conditions.

Basically, from what I have seen and experienced, I think its a real toss up as to which type of blower is quicker, given identical setups. I have driven both and I prefer the PD for everyday fun, and the centri if I was spending more time doing highway pulls.

700 HP is a blast to drive, no matter how you achieve it.
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Old 08-13-2013, 09:35 PM   #24
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I will give you the best example I know of from personal experience. My buddy and I have fairly similar cars, his centri and mine PD. I know the cars are not identical, but I believe it is a fairly good example of what you guys are debating here.

His car...
2010 Corvette GS, manual, LS3, ECS centri, cam, meth, 12lbs of boost. 744rwhp and I forget the exact torque number

My car... last year as I don't have a clean run on my new build yet.

2007 Corvette convertible, auto A6, eforce, meth , 12lbs of boost. 600 rwhp / 640 rwtq.
stock cam, stock converter

Both cars on 275 / 17 MT's. I know some will say the auto is easier to drive, but he has managed better 60 ft times than I have so that point is dead.

Best with the centri. 10.22 @ 137 60ft time 1.46

Best with PD 10.42 @ 133 60ft time 1.62

Same boost, similar weights and obviously suspensions.

Now that I have more power, and a converter I will obviously be quicker than last year. I believe both these cars are capable of high 9 second times with the right conditions.

Basically, from what I have seen and experienced, I think its a real toss up as to which type of blower is quicker, given identical setups. I have driven both and I prefer the PD for everyday fun, and the centri if I was spending more time doing highway pulls.

700 HP is a blast to drive, no matter how you achieve it.
I agree. I think it would be close.
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Old 08-13-2013, 09:59 PM   #25
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I love my D1 centri!
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Old 08-13-2013, 10:30 PM   #26
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A 800 hp tvs will outrun a 800hp centri everytime every where IMO and experience

now lets talk $ to get the two there?

in most scenarios a centri put on a car with the same mods as a TVS, centri makes more power, is easier on the drivetrain, and can control the hook a little easier. Their comes a point in which hooking becomes an issue and that doesnt seem to be mentioned in this thread. Blowing the tires off isnt winning the race.

im also not sure you have seen a curve of a properly setup speccd cam centri car?
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Old 08-13-2013, 11:24 PM   #27
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I agree with you Camper! While a PD is blowing the tires off the car a centri is hooked and gone!
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Old 08-13-2013, 11:52 PM   #28
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there are so many more variables in what makes a car fast other than peak HP, I dont think people understand that though..
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