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Bornluckee13 · 05-28-2013, 12:35 PM

Well, looks like its getting time to start the tire hunt again! I am running the sessentas now withe a 275 up front and a 315 in the rear. I have been very pleased with the vredestiens, great tire, great grip, great tread life. Currently have 20k on them with an HPDE and about 10ish autoX days, I estimate another 4-5k left on them. I have been hearing great things about the Pilots though, I would go with a 285 square set up with them. Anybody have experience with both tire? Thoughts? Comments? Witty replies?

chicagobulls · 05-28-2013, 12:48 PM

From what I have read, the michelins are like steroids for the track.

BowlingSS · 05-29-2013, 11:10 AM

They are costly..

Bill

Bornluckee13 · 05-29-2013, 11:25 AM

I have priced them, not prohibitively costly. I started with the 21" wheels so anything is cheaper than those things! What is tire life like? It's hard to keep the wife understanding about track days if I'm replacing tires every 10k! She is already baffled about my need of 2 sets of brake pads and addiction to brake fluid.....

Synner · 05-29-2013, 11:39 AM

Vredesteins aren't a track tire, i would get the michelins. Tread life will be better than most for your intended use but you can't say x,xxx miles when you race with them.

I've gotten my wife to accept squealing track pads 24/7 and I tell her the fluid is needed so my face doesn't hit the wall and need a new $40k camaro. Then she's fine with $30 in fluid after every track day. Think like a politician and sell it; dazzle with brilliance or baffle with bullshit.

Bornluckee13 · 05-29-2013, 12:12 PM

Lol, I'm pretty good at the baffling thing! I just explained that because I have track pads my street pads won't need to be replaced half as much. The squeal was killing me, the extra 30 min to swap out pads is worth it on my daily driver. As far as tread life on the track, your right, impossible to guesstimate. I was hoping to hear from somebody who has run them on their daily driver with possibly a few track days thrown in. The Vreds are no track tire but are a great high performance street tire that perform great for a duel purpose daily driver that sees A LOT of highway miles. I'm not looking at Rspec tires for a second set of track wheels (yet), But the best possible compromise.

Bornluckee13 · 05-29-2013, 03:34 PM

After reviewing the 30k warranty and the fact I'll be running a square 285 set up I don't see how I can go wrong with the Michelins!

Phdpsy · 05-29-2013, 07:47 PM

I have been running the Super Sports since they came out on my GT500, my wife's M3, and replaced my Goodyear F1s on my 1LE. I run the 285/35 square set up on the 1LE. I still love them. With the 30k warranty on the square set up you can't beat it. I've tracked them frequently on the various cars and love them. You won't regret it.

K32 Camaro · 05-30-2013, 02:58 AM

I didn't think the warranty applied for tracked cars. I personally prefer the vreds b/c the $/performance factor. But if you don't mind swinging the super sports do it. The only tire that has better reviews than the vreds imo.

BAWLZ SS · 05-30-2013, 10:27 AM

Pilot super sports!!! You get what u pay for!!! I love them!!!!

My 5th · 05-30-2013, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Phdpsy

I have been running the Super Sports since they came out on my GT500, my wife's M3, and replaced my Goodyear F1s on my 1LE. I run the 285/35 square set up on the 1LE. I still love them. With the 30k warranty on the square set up you can't beat it. I've tracked them frequently on the various cars and love them. You won't regret it.

Do you have to run a square setup to get the 30K warranty? I've been thinking about replacing my Conti Extreme Contact DWS with the Pilots, but I would run 285 front and 315 rear (9.5" X 20" front 11.0" X 20" rear).

Since I have winter tires on my stock wheels I run the "performance" tires only 7-8 months a year.

Phdpsy · 05-30-2013, 12:22 PM

30k for a square set up, only 15k warranty if staggered since they can't be rotated effectively and will wear more quickly. I got 34k miles on my wife's M3 set with one track weekend. 17k on my GT500 with 4 track weekends and a handful of quarter mile passes. Plus, they handle great in the wet...something fairly rare in this level of performance tire.

05-29-2013, 11:10 AM	#3
BowlingSS Camaro Owner Since 1987 Drives: 2011 2SS/RS L99 RJT Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Lawrenceville, GA Posts: 2,185	They are costly.. Bill __________________ 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS L99 RJT CAI, Inc. Cold Air Induction;ADM Scoop Rx Catch Can;Rx Breather;Roto-Fab Washer Container VMax Ported RJT Throttle Body XSPower Headers and XSPower 3" Exhaust System Elite Engineering Tunnel Brace, Gorilla Wheel Lock System; Bear Rotors, Hawk HPS Tinted Windows 35%;EFILive Tune

05-30-2013, 10:27 AM	#10
BAWLZ SS Drives: '10 Camaro LS3 2SS/RS, 1968 Nova Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: California Posts: 972	Pilot super sports!!! You get what u pay for!!! I love them!!!! __________________ Performance- Kooks Headers w/HF cats, ZL1 Corsa exhaust, VMax, CAI Inc. CAI, MGW shifter, RX CC Suspension - KW V3 Coilovers/ Full PFADT & BMR suspension Appearance - ZL1 Fascia/Sides/ Diffuser, AAC Afterburners, RK Sport 3pc Spoiler, SLP Black out Kit

05-28-2013, 12:48 PM	#2
chicagobulls one car wolfpack Drives: 2010 Camaro V6 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,226	From what I have read, the michelins are like steroids for the track.

05-29-2013, 11:39 AM	#5
Synner Drives: cars Join Date: May 2011 Location: Oversneeze Posts: 4,544	Vredesteins aren't a track tire, i would get the michelins. Tread life will be better than most for your intended use but you can't say x,xxx miles when you race with them. I've gotten my wife to accept squealing track pads 24/7 and I tell her the fluid is needed so my face doesn't hit the wall and need a new $40k camaro. Then she's fine with $30 in fluid after every track day. Think like a politician and sell it; dazzle with brilliance or baffle with bullshit.

05-29-2013, 07:47 PM	#8
Phdpsy Drives: SW 2013 1LE Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Louisiana Posts: 126	I have been running the Super Sports since they came out on my GT500, my wife's M3, and replaced my Goodyear F1s on my 1LE. I run the 285/35 square set up on the 1LE. I still love them. With the 30k warranty on the square set up you can't beat it. I've tracked them frequently on the various cars and love them. You won't regret it.

05-30-2013, 02:58 AM	#9
K32 Camaro V8 lounge member #5 Drives: 12 2SS Synergy Camaro, 05 PontiacG6 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,301	I didn't think the warranty applied for tracked cars. I personally prefer the vreds b/c the $/performance factor. But if you don't mind swinging the super sports do it. The only tire that has better reviews than the vreds imo.

05-30-2013, 12:22 PM	#12
Phdpsy Drives: SW 2013 1LE Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Louisiana Posts: 126	30k for a square set up, only 15k warranty if staggered since they can't be rotated effectively and will wear more quickly. I got 34k miles on my wife's M3 set with one track weekend. 17k on my GT500 with 4 track weekends and a handful of quarter mile passes. Plus, they handle great in the wet...something fairly rare in this level of performance tire.