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*TAG UR IT* · 10-21-2007, 11:53 PM

At the fair, Scott said several things. These have already been covered.

1. B-pillar will be there...no roll down rear windows.
2. It will have a key (no push button start)

stovt001 · 10-22-2007, 06:17 AM

Did he mention why there would be no push button start? That seems like a no-brainer to put it in.

*DGthe3* · 10-22-2007, 08:33 AM

I dunno, maybe because regular ignitions have worked for decades with few complaints and are probably quite cheap to design? And push buttons would raise the price simply because they add nothing other than a wow factor. Its an engineering fact that cool features cost alot, for the customer that is. I may be wrong on all this though. Do push button starts work better? Do they lead to a better performing car? Do they make it safer? Do they make the drive more comfortable? I don't see how it can do any of these.

Now that im done my little rant, I understand that there are people out there that would like to have this feature, who would pay an extra few hundred bucks for it. I don't want to because I want an inexpensive, high performing Camaro. If I wanted something fancy I'd go euro (if i had the money) or at least Caddy.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 10-22-2007, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

Now that im done my little rant, I understand that there are people out there that would like to have this feature, who would pay an extra few hundred bucks for it. I don't want to because I want an inexpensive, high performing Camaro. If I wanted something fancy I'd go euro (if i had the money) or at least Caddy.

It'd be nice - just like you said, for the "wow" factor. But I'm not bothered by not having it, at all. I'll take that extra hundred bucks, and pop it into a "bigger engine" fund.

stovt001 · 10-22-2007, 09:39 AM

The main purpose is that presumably it would be coupled with a keyless entry/start system, so as long as you have the fob with you in your pocket, you walk up, the doors unlock themselves, you get in, depress the clutch, hit the button, and the beast wakes up. Fumbling with keys and having them swing around, tap into things, and scratch stuff up is just annoying.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 10-22-2007, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by stovt001

Fumbling with keys and having them swing around, tap into things, and scratch stuff up is just annoying.

^ That! right there, that is the only clear advantage I can see with a push-start. (other than the 'wow' factor.)

OverAnxious · 10-22-2007, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by stovt001

The main purpose is that presumably it would be coupled with a keyless entry/start system, so as long as you have the fob with you in your pocket, you walk up, the doors unlock themselves, you get in, depress the clutch, hit the button, and the beast wakes up. Fumbling with keys and having them swing around, tap into things, and scratch stuff up is just annoying.

Having one key and a rubber keychain solves those problems

As much as I'd like a similar system to the C6 Corvette, I'd rather not have it on a Camaro and help keep the costs down a little. Every little thing counts

*TAG UR IT* · 10-22-2007, 11:40 AM

Give me a second and I'll see if I can upload one of my crappy, shakey videos onto Kodak. I seriously have to get a tripod. I was standing perfectly still and they darn camera was still shaking like crazy. But, once the link is up, listen carefully during the first few seconds. Scott said he could talk about certain things and I scrambled for my camera. So, I didn't get it all...

It just started downloading...I'll edit this post to add the video when it's done. Scott siad he's been known for getting out of more than one Corvette while leaving it running....regarding the key issue.

JeepinMatt · 10-23-2007, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by stovt001

The main purpose is that presumably it would be coupled with a keyless entry/start system, so as long as you have the fob with you in your pocket, you walk up, the doors unlock themselves, you get in, depress the clutch, hit the button, and the beast wakes up. Fumbling with keys and having them swing around, tap into things, and scratch stuff up is just annoying.

Doesn't bother me. I still open my doors and tailgate manually (by sticking a key into the slot, yeah they're there for a reason). My brother in law just got a new Altima (nice car) with one of those keys you just keep in your pocket. All new fangled to me. Wizardry!! Wizardry I tell you!!

*TAG UR IT* · 10-23-2007, 03:06 AM

Guess I won't be uploading the vid. It won't upload due to the vid size...sucks.

Pencil.Fight · 10-23-2007, 11:40 AM

Upload it to YouTube and link to it?

*TAG UR IT* · 10-23-2007, 04:05 PM

I'll give it a shot

10-22-2007, 08:33 AM	#45
DGthe3 Moderator.ca Drives: 05 Grand Am GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Niagara, Canada Posts: 25,372	I dunno, maybe because regular ignitions have worked for decades with few complaints and are probably quite cheap to design? And push buttons would raise the price simply because they add nothing other than a wow factor. Its an engineering fact that cool features cost alot, for the customer that is. I may be wrong on all this though. Do push button starts work better? Do they lead to a better performing car? Do they make it safer? Do they make the drive more comfortable? I don't see how it can do any of these. Now that im done my little rant, I understand that there are people out there that would like to have this feature, who would pay an extra few hundred bucks for it. I don't want to because I want an inexpensive, high performing Camaro. If I wanted something fancy I'd go euro (if i had the money) or at least Caddy. __________________ Note, if I've gotten any facts wrong in the above, just ignore any points I made with them __________________ Originally Posted by FbodFather My sister's dentist's brother's cousin's housekeeper's dog-breeder's nephew sells coffee filters to the company that provides coffee to General Motors...... ........and HE WOULD KNOW!!!! __________________ Camaro Fest sub-forum

10-21-2007, 11:53 PM	#43
TAG UR IT www.Camaro5store.com Drives: 2014 ZL1 #705 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SA, Texas Posts: 26,558 View My Garage	At the fair, Scott said several things. These have already been covered. 1. B-pillar will be there...no roll down rear windows. 2. It will have a key (no push button start)

10-22-2007, 06:17 AM	#44
stovt001 Drives: 2006 Cobalt, 2004 Taurus wagon Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 3,812	Did he mention why there would be no push button start? That seems like a no-brainer to put it in.

10-22-2007, 09:39 AM	#47
stovt001 Drives: 2006 Cobalt, 2004 Taurus wagon Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 3,812	The main purpose is that presumably it would be coupled with a keyless entry/start system, so as long as you have the fob with you in your pocket, you walk up, the doors unlock themselves, you get in, depress the clutch, hit the button, and the beast wakes up. Fumbling with keys and having them swing around, tap into things, and scratch stuff up is just annoying.

10-22-2007, 11:40 AM	#50
TAG UR IT www.Camaro5store.com Drives: 2014 ZL1 #705 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SA, Texas Posts: 26,558 View My Garage	Give me a second and I'll see if I can upload one of my crappy, shakey videos onto Kodak. I seriously have to get a tripod. I was standing perfectly still and they darn camera was still shaking like crazy. But, once the link is up, listen carefully during the first few seconds. Scott said he could talk about certain things and I scrambled for my camera. So, I didn't get it all... It just started downloading...I'll edit this post to add the video when it's done. Scott siad he's been known for getting out of more than one Corvette while leaving it running....regarding the key issue.

10-23-2007, 03:06 AM	#52
TAG UR IT www.Camaro5store.com Drives: 2014 ZL1 #705 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SA, Texas Posts: 26,558 View My Garage	Guess I won't be uploading the vid. It won't upload due to the vid size...sucks.

10-23-2007, 04:05 PM	#54
TAG UR IT www.Camaro5store.com Drives: 2014 ZL1 #705 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SA, Texas Posts: 26,558 View My Garage	I'll give it a shot