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big_bank5000 · 01-03-2008, 05:25 AM

I was watching on the news today 1/3/2008 CNBC. There's suppose to be a huge spike in gas prices due to high demand for crude oil as the year 2008 progresses.

For people who have knowledge in the past high gas prices is what killed the muscle car era. Gas prices are suppose to go up to a whomping $4.00/per gallon.

What do you guys think? do you think this will kill Dodge's challenger and fords mustang? Chevy already said they will have the cylinder shut down technology giving the Camaro a projected 30mpg/highway and 22mpg/city. But the challenger and the mustang only can get 23mpg/highway at max as of so far. You guys and so maybe girls thoughts?

*Mr. Wyndham* · 01-03-2008, 08:23 AM

I think we'll be fine. There's a lot of crap I could spout about why - but it wasn't gas prices alone that killed the Musclecars back then.

To quote another author on this point sums up my view on the topic:

"Summary, Muscle cars in the traditional sense was dead BEFORE emissions and fuel economy killed them. The public moved away from them, insurance made them too expensive, baby boomers matrured to personal luxury cars as they grew older, meanwhile, banning lead in gasoline directly killed high compression engines.... till modern electronics and on board computers made up for it years later."

Historical sales numbers, (i.e. 200,000+ Camaros sold per year during certain years in the 70's) just don't support a "Camaro's going to die!!!" theory...

*DGthe3* · 01-03-2008, 10:13 AM

$4/gal is about what we pay now. I see plenty of mustangs, chargers, camaros, and corvettes driving around. Its ok, you will survive.

And in back in the day it was gas prices+emissions+insurance that killed the muscle car

big_bank5000 · 01-03-2008, 12:26 PM

well i know one thing once the G8 comes out im getting that and trading in this sububan in lol.

Myka · 01-03-2008, 04:40 PM

Convert to alcohol. Make your own alcohol.

*TAG UR IT* · 01-04-2008, 01:08 AM

$4 a gallon?!? COME ON!!! This is getting rediculous!!!

Jeff · 01-04-2008, 01:38 AM

Muscle cars will never disappear. Its because of people like us, we'll find away.

*Mindz* · 01-04-2008, 01:55 AM

it's 3.89 in the bay area. Unleaded base. Not premium.

big_bank5000 · 01-04-2008, 10:33 AM

dang i guess we real lucky hear in detroit its 3.18 a gallon

*GTAHVIT* · 01-04-2008, 10:38 AM

$3.10 for 87 in Jacksonville Fl

Cubanaso · 01-04-2008, 10:50 AM

Hey, maybe someone else has asked but will the new Camaro take regular (87)? My RX8 can use it but it asks for 91 (which is hard to find) so I'm filling her up with 93 all the time. I hope...87 is in the picture for the Camaro.

Anyway, GM's V8's are great with fuel economy considering their size/power/etc but I bet we will see less gas V8's, more diesel V8's, hybrids, etc.

Remember also, recently they have figured out how to get ALOT more power out of lithium batteries (10-20X the power storage for laptops as an example) so every other technology out there (because of high gas) will grow further which isn't a bad thing environmentally speaking. Nano technology is the wave of the future MAN...LOL.

Even gas V8's will live on while we probably will see less of them.

Navy Blue · 01-08-2008, 06:37 PM

you shouldnt worry, with everyone converting vegetables into fuels i think it'll even out the prices of gas, atleast i hope, and with gm's fuel flex technology which i hope it gets it shouldnt be too hard to fill her up, though here in chicago/indiana prices are getting pretty steep...but i'm not complaining i drive a v6

Jeff · 01-08-2008, 06:46 PM

$3.05 ish for 89 Octane here in San Antonio :\

Navy Blue · 01-08-2008, 07:19 PM

being honest i just hope its not like a suburban,we had one for a while like for trips or going out with the family and nice as it was, it consumed quite alot of gas, i have thought about getting a v6 camaro..but naa v8 all the way!

01-03-2008, 05:25 AM	#1
big_bank5000 Bring it back!!!!! Drives: 2008 G8 GT (its my baby) Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 51	The muscle car killer I was watching on the news today 1/3/2008 CNBC. There's suppose to be a huge spike in gas prices due to high demand for crude oil as the year 2008 progresses. For people who have knowledge in the past high gas prices is what killed the muscle car era. Gas prices are suppose to go up to a whomping $4.00/per gallon. What do you guys think? do you think this will kill Dodge's challenger and fords mustang? Chevy already said they will have the cylinder shut down technology giving the Camaro a projected 30mpg/highway and 22mpg/city. But the challenger and the mustang only can get 23mpg/highway at max as of so far. You guys and so maybe girls thoughts? __________________ Chevy till the day I'm six feet under!!! *2009 grab your horses I got mines you better get yours*. (R.I.P Steve Godbless)

01-03-2008, 08:23 AM	#2
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,876 View My Garage	I think we'll be fine. There's a lot of crap I could spout about why - but it wasn't gas prices alone that killed the Musclecars back then. To quote another author on this point sums up my view on the topic: "Summary, Muscle cars in the traditional sense was dead *BEFORE* emissions and fuel economy killed them. The public moved away from them, insurance made them too expensive, baby boomers matrured to personal luxury cars as they grew older, meanwhile, banning lead in gasoline directly killed high compression engines.... till modern electronics and on board computers made up for it years later." Historical sales numbers, (i.e. 200,000+ Camaros sold per year during certain years in the 70's) just don't support a "Camaro's going to die!!!" theory... __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

01-03-2008, 10:13 AM	#3
DGthe3 Moderator.ca Drives: 05 Grand Am GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Niagara, Canada Posts: 25,372	$4/gal is about what we pay now. I see plenty of mustangs, chargers, camaros, and corvettes driving around. Its ok, you will survive. And in back in the day it was gas prices+emissions+insurance that killed the muscle car __________________ Note, if I've gotten any facts wrong in the above, just ignore any points I made with them __________________ Originally Posted by FbodFather My sister's dentist's brother's cousin's housekeeper's dog-breeder's nephew sells coffee filters to the company that provides coffee to General Motors...... ........and HE WOULD KNOW!!!! __________________ Camaro Fest sub-forum

01-03-2008, 12:26 PM	#4
big_bank5000 Bring it back!!!!! Drives: 2008 G8 GT (its my baby) Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 51	well i know one thing once the G8 comes out im getting that and trading in this sububan in lol. __________________ Chevy till the day I'm six feet under!!! *2009 grab your horses I got mines you better get yours*. (R.I.P Steve Godbless)

01-04-2008, 01:38 AM	#7
Jeff ~ANTI-FORD~ Drives: Cadillac CTS Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 608	Muscle cars will never disappear. Its because of people like us, we'll find away. __________________ My Z28 sorry guys.. sold Camaro and got a Cadillac CTS, waiting for a few years to get a 2010 SS used ;]

01-03-2008, 04:40 PM	#5
Myka ritired suthern gentlman Drives: nothing now Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: MO Posts: 199	Convert to alcohol. Make your own alcohol.

01-04-2008, 01:08 AM	#6
TAG UR IT www.Camaro5store.com Drives: 2014 ZL1 #705 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SA, Texas Posts: 26,558 View My Garage	$4 a gallon?!? COME ON!!! This is getting rediculous!!!

01-04-2008, 01:55 AM	#8
Mindz E.B.A.H. Drives: you wild... Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In the happy padded room wearing a jacket that makes me hug myself... Posts: 18,421	it's 3.89 in the bay area. Unleaded base. Not premium. __________________ Blue Rush, 2010 SS [Car of the Week 3/22/2010] Traded in on...ZLZBUBB, 2013 ZL1

01-04-2008, 10:33 AM	#9
big_bank5000 Bring it back!!!!! Drives: 2008 G8 GT (its my baby) Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 51	dang i guess we real lucky hear in detroit its 3.18 a gallon __________________ Chevy till the day I'm six feet under!!! *2009 grab your horses I got mines you better get yours*. (R.I.P Steve Godbless)

01-04-2008, 10:38 AM	#10
GTAHVIT Blessed Drives: 2013 Sonic RS MT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Saint Augustine FL Posts: 28,444 View My Garage	$3.10 for 87 in Jacksonville Fl __________________ Click image to see build thread. PQ - "the love of cars. It's a boys first step toward manhood and a mans last hold on boyhood." Fbodfather - "We do not want to use the Z28 moniker on a car that does not deserve this hallowed name." The_Blur - "Let's not confuse competitors with equals."

01-04-2008, 10:50 AM	#11
Cubanaso Follower of CHRIST! Drives: 2005 Mazda RX8 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Central FL Posts: 299	Hey, maybe someone else has asked but will the new Camaro take regular (87)? My RX8 can use it but it asks for 91 (which is hard to find) so I'm filling her up with 93 all the time. I hope...87 is in the picture for the Camaro. Anyway, GM's V8's are great with fuel economy considering their size/power/etc but I bet we will see less gas V8's, more diesel V8's, hybrids, etc. Remember also, recently they have figured out how to get ALOT more power out of lithium batteries (10-20X the power storage for laptops as an example) so every other technology out there (because of high gas) will grow further which isn't a bad thing environmentally speaking. Nano technology is the wave of the future MAN...LOL. Even gas V8's will live on while we probably will see less of them. __________________ A GM V8 in every home....

01-08-2008, 06:37 PM	#12
Navy Blue Future Camaro Owner Drives: 2001 Chevy Impala Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Whiting IN Posts: 258	you shouldnt worry, with everyone converting vegetables into fuels i think it'll even out the prices of gas, atleast i hope, and with gm's fuel flex technology which i hope it gets it shouldnt be too hard to fill her up, though here in chicago/indiana prices are getting pretty steep...but i'm not complaining i drive a v6

01-08-2008, 06:46 PM	#13
Jeff ~ANTI-FORD~ Drives: Cadillac CTS Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 608	$3.05 ish for 89 Octane here in San Antonio :\ __________________ My Z28 sorry guys.. sold Camaro and got a Cadillac CTS, waiting for a few years to get a 2010 SS used ;]

01-08-2008, 07:19 PM	#14
Navy Blue Future Camaro Owner Drives: 2001 Chevy Impala Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Whiting IN Posts: 258	being honest i just hope its not like a suburban,we had one for a while like for trips or going out with the family and nice as it was, it consumed quite alot of gas, i have thought about getting a v6 camaro..but naa v8 all the way!

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