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KKreme15 · 04-18-2013, 03:37 PM

475

SPOOKYGUNNER · 04-18-2013, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by NASTY99Z28

That is the highest by far I've seen and that's on a mustang at that so i hate to say it but I think something is a little fishy.

WHAT DOES WCF MEAN? NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT AbbreviatiON

swizlstik · 04-18-2013, 03:49 PM

496rwhp 474 torq

MO'SZL1 · 04-18-2013, 04:01 PM

478 rwhp 539 torq

102SS · 04-18-2013, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOOKYGUNNER

WHAT DOES WCF MEAN? NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT AbbreviatiON

With Cooling Fan?

Flea · 04-18-2013, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOOKYGUNNER

WHAT DOES WCF MEAN? NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT AbbreviatiON

I believe I somewhere it stood for With Calibration Factor, or something like that.

hognutz · 04-18-2013, 04:55 PM

Now that motors are SAE rated the maximum variation is less than you see in all these dyno numbers. That points to one very big issue. dyno's don't read the same so they are not a true measure of real HP. they can really only show you a delta.

the same car that reads 522 on one dyno could read 495 on another dyno.

any number above the 520 range has to almost be mathmatically wrong. 520whp would only be 10% loss. most of the time drivetrain loss is more like 12-15% for a manual. then 15-18% auto.

that 550hp number is 100% dyno error.

That is why I don't put much faith in dyno numbers other than to show a delta (before and after) or they could show just a glaring problem.

you car is not going to magically gain 50hp with no mods though.

John Deere Racer · 04-18-2013, 08:59 PM

496rwhp stock 100 miles

alex70olds · 04-18-2013, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by hognutz

Now that motors are SAE rated the maximum variation is less than you see in all these dyno numbers. That points to one very big issue. dyno's don't read the same so they are not a true measure of real HP. they can really only show you a delta.

the same car that reads 522 on one dyno could read 495 on another dyno.

any number above the 520 range has to almost be mathmatically wrong. 520whp would only be 10% loss. most of the time drivetrain loss is more like 12-15% for a manual. then 15-18% auto.

that 550hp number is 100% dyno error.

That is why I don't put much faith in dyno numbers other than to show a delta (before and after) or they could show just a glaring problem.

you car is not going to magically gain 50hp with no mods though.

Exactly! Nice post.

Scarrzz · 04-19-2013, 06:28 AM

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I wonder if ALL of the best numbers are from folks who broke 'em in hard & got the rings well seated.

SCHUSS · 04-19-2013, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Scarrzz

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I wonder if ALL of the best numbers are from folks who broke 'em in hard & got the rings well seated.

Thinking same thing. Maybe the lower need a fuse pull or can only get 91?

toehead93 · 04-19-2013, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by hognutz

Now that motors are SAE rated the maximum variation is less than you see in all these dyno numbers. That points to one very big issue. dyno's don't read the same so they are not a true measure of real HP. they can really only show you a delta.

the same car that reads 522 on one dyno could read 495 on another dyno.

any number above the 520 range has to almost be mathmatically wrong. 520whp would only be 10% loss. most of the time drivetrain loss is more like 12-15% for a manual. then 15-18% auto.

that 550hp number is 100% dyno error.

That is why I don't put much faith in dyno numbers other than to show a delta (before and after) or they could show just a glaring problem.

you car is not going to magically gain 50hp with no mods though.

This is the truth, too many peple have trouble understanding this. Chasis dynos are a tuning tool and that is about it. There are so man variables it is comcle seeing how seriously people take dyno numbers. I will say they are better then those butt dynos but neither compare the accuracy of engine dynos and SAE testing.

SlingShot · 04-19-2013, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DrewJitsu

Here's mine from a Mustang dyno...lazy so used iphone to snap pics of them on table.

With mods - crank pulley with 9.55 ring, idler pulleys with relocation bracket, air raid CAI, and tune by Ted Jannetty.

These numbers are off based on the weight used on the car. It won't make a difference on the gains though. Nice gains either way...

sportyb24 · 04-19-2013, 07:39 AM

Please let us know if its a manual or auto!! ��

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hognutz Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: tangent or Posts: 2,984	Now that motors are SAE rated the maximum variation is less than you see in all these dyno numbers. That points to one very big issue. dyno's don't read the same so they are not a true measure of real HP. they can really only show you a delta. the same car that reads 522 on one dyno could read 495 on another dyno. any number above the 520 range has to almost be mathmatically wrong. 520whp would only be 10% loss. most of the time drivetrain loss is more like 12-15% for a manual. then 15-18% auto. that 550hp number is 100% dyno error. That is why I don't put much faith in dyno numbers other than to show a delta (before and after) or they could show just a glaring problem. you car is not going to magically gain 50hp with no mods though. __________________ shopping for 2017+1le or zl1 2009 CTS-V -sold 2015 Hellcat-sold 2013 ZL1 -sold 2007 Z06- sold 2014 Chrysler 300 2011 Duramax 8" lift, deleted tuned

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