09-04-2012, 09:07 AM | #1 |
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1LE (MM6) Gearing?
I was trying to find a chart comparing the differences between the 1LE (MM6) transmission gearing (1st thru 6th) compared to the regular SS (M10?) gearing. I know I've seen it somewhere on here before, but I can't find it now. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Also, if I may ask an uninformed ignorant question. Let's say hypothetically, if both cars (SS and 1LE) had a 3.91 final rear end ratio, would there be any noticeable difference in "seat-of-the-pants" torque feel because of the different transmission gearing? I remember looking at those gear ratios before and thinking to myself that the 3.91's would actually feel more "torquey" (be more effective) in the SS. But maybe I have that backwards. Can someone confirm, deny, or explain? I'm confusing myself now!!! |
09-04-2012, 09:10 AM | #2 |
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mm6 is in the z06, same gearing. you can look it up and compare overll ratio in each gear by multiplying.
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09-04-2012, 12:21 PM | #3 |
MM63.911st Gear Ratio2.66410.422nd Gear Ratio1.7836.973rd Gear Ratio1.3025.094th Gear Ratio13.915th Gear Ratio0.7412.906th Gear Ratio0.5021.96M103.453.911st Gear Ratio3.0110.3811.772nd Gear Ratio2.077.148.093rd Gear Ratio1.434.935.594th Gear Ratio13.453.915th Gear Ratio0.842.903.286th Gear Ratio0.571.972.23
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09-04-2012, 12:23 PM | #4 |
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In the Official 1LE thread.
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09-04-2012, 12:26 PM | #5 |
Sorry i pasted from an excel sheet i have. that didn't work..
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09-04-2012, 12:49 PM | #6 |
MM6 w/ 3.91
1st gear ratio: 2.66 10.42 2nd gear ratio: 1.78 6.97 3rd gear ratio: 1.30 5.09 4th gear ratio: 1.00 3.91 5th gear ratio: 0.74 2.90 6th gear ratio: 0.50 1.96 M10 w/ 3.45 w/ 3.91 1st gear ratio: 3.01 10.38 11.77 2nd gear ratio: 2.07 7.14 8.09 3rd gear ratio: 1.43 4.93 5.59 4th gear ratio: 1.00 3.45 3.91 5th gear ratio: 0.84 2.90 3.28 6th gear ratio: 0.57 1.97 2.23
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09-04-2012, 01:00 PM | #7 |
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MM6 ratios have been around since 1994 in the LT1 Camaro's if I recall correctly. They carried the same ratios into the production of the TR6060 version of the MM6 RPO.
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One other thing to consider is the torque capacity. From gmpowertrain.com
Both the standard Corvette and the high-performance Z06 use the TR6060 designated as MM6, which is validated to 500 lb-ft of torque, while the TR6060 with the Z51 option features higher ratios and is designated as MZ6. It is validated to 430 lb-ft of torque. The ultra high performance ZR1 uses the TR6060 designated as the MH3, which is validated to 650 lb-ft of torque. The CTSv uses the MG9 version of the TR6060 validated to 560 lb-ft of torque. The Camaro uses the M10 gear set validated to 430 lb-ft of torque
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Am I missing it somewhere on the first page, or is it buried somewhere within the other 46 pages???
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I'm pretty sure the GM engineers are being conservative, but it is up to the consumer to take a chance. My 98 Camaro SS trans was only rated up to 400 lb/ft torque, but it handled well pass 450 when I upgraded it. And never had a problem, even with a 3000 stall torque converter. But then again, that was just an auto trans. Not sure about manual trans.
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09-04-2012, 02:07 PM | #11 |
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I was going to post with the same question so thanks for dealing with this for me.
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I should've said OEM rated at 400 lb/ft, which we all know they use engine crank. My torque was at the wheels. So you're looking at above 500 crank torque.
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