Going from a Maggie'd SS to a ZL1. Was I expecting too much? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

bumblebeecamaro · 03-25-2013, 04:33 PM

Okay, I decided to trade in my Bumblebee L99 Maggie car for a ZL1. now, I do realize the power difference between the two cars wasn't going to be huge, but I did think they would be slightly noticeable in the ZL1's favor due to it being rated at 585HP vs what I thought to be somewhere in the 530-ish range on my Bee.

quite honestly, my old Bee feels like it pulled stronger overall. I also take in to consideration looking at the ZL1's boost gauge which says it pegs around 8 to 9 lbs of boost. my Bee was set around 7 lbs. So now I'm thinking what the heck? why did my Bee pull harder than an almighty ZL1? I'm hoping it's because the ZL1 is still fresh out of the box and the engine hasn't been "exercised" enough yet. I do realize there is so much more to the ZL1 besides the power plant, but I guess my expectations might have been too high?

nonetheless, my old Bee is gone and there's no turning back. I just hope my new ZL1 "wakes up" as more time goes by.

KKreme15 · 03-25-2013, 04:37 PM

The auto starts in second (assuming you have the auto). At least that's what I've read around here

UF4LIFE102SS · 03-25-2013, 04:37 PM

Wheres a pic of the ZL1? Hope the power comes.

SUKXOST · 03-25-2013, 04:40 PM

interesting. Kick that mule then!

bumblebeecamaro · 03-25-2013, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by UF4LIFE102SS

Wheres a pic of the ZL1? Hope the power comes.

Here's a pic of old vs new.

bumblebeecamaro · 03-25-2013, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by KKreme15

The auto starts in second (assuming you have the auto). At least that's what I've read around here

That's correct, it's an auto tranny. I'm in a wheelchair so driving a stick car isn't an option.

UF4LIFE102SS · 03-25-2013, 04:49 PM

Is that the famous 1st Camaro rally place?

hognutz · 03-25-2013, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bumblebeecamaro

Okay, I decided to trade in my Bumblebee L99 Maggie car for a ZL1. now, I do realize the power difference between the two cars wasn't going to be huge, but I did think they would be slightly noticeable in the ZL1's favor due to it being rated at 585HP vs what I thought to be somewhere in the 530-ish range on my Bee.

quite honestly, my old Bee feels like it pulled stronger overall. I also take in to consideration looking at the ZL1's boost gauge which says it pegs around 8 to 9 lbs of boost. my Bee was set around 7 lbs. So now I'm thinking what the heck? why did my Bee pull harder than an almighty ZL1? I'm hoping it's because the ZL1 is still fresh out of the box and the engine hasn't been "exercised" enough yet. I do realize there is so much more to the ZL1 besides the power plant, but I guess my expectations might have been too high?

nonetheless, my old Bee is gone and there's no turning back. I just hope my new ZL1 "wakes up" as more time goes by.

the car just needs some power mods IMO to feel really "fast". simple and easy to do. all I have is CAI, TB, lower and the car pull night and day different. all of 3hrs labor.

Zikma · 03-25-2013, 04:54 PM

It may be 100% perception but several others here agreed that as the 1500 mile breakin proceeded it seemed like the car really woke up.
so perception or reality I dont know.

Modern07 · 03-25-2013, 05:22 PM

The 530 you said you had in you old car - was that crank HP or at the wheels?

The reported 585hp in the ZL1 is crank hp and that's been translating to approx 480 at the wheels in the automatics on the few stock ones that have been dynoed

Just want to rule out that

Muscle SS · 03-25-2013, 05:28 PM

Wouldn't it be fair to say a tranny and engine tune might help substantially?

Jessika · 03-25-2013, 05:30 PM

I have a solution for you

SlingShot · 03-25-2013, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Muscle SS

Wouldn't it be fair to say a tranny and engine tune might help substantially?

No, personally the tranny is perfect just the way it is.

There is several hundred pounds weight difference between the SS and the ZL1. The car is actually much faster than it feels, due to weight and suspension. The car rides and feels the same whether your doing 30 or 130.

BTW ... Congrats on the new car !!!

ayousef · 03-25-2013, 06:06 PM

7psi on a high compression 6.2 and an aftermarket tune would definitely feel quicker than a stock ZL1, plus the SS is about 250-300lbs lighter than the ZL1, yes im taking into consideration the blower adds weight but then you might have had a lighter exhaust/headers and so on.

Car might also get quicker with a little more miles. My M6 ZL1 put 500rwhp on a Dynojet with 35miles on the odometer.

03-25-2013, 04:33 PM	#1
bumblebeecamaro Car Lover By Nature Drives: 2016 Hyper Blue Metallic SS Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Central FL Posts: 2,327 View My Garage	Going from a Maggie'd SS to a ZL1. Was I expecting too much? Okay, I decided to trade in my Bumblebee L99 Maggie car for a ZL1. now, I do realize the power difference between the two cars wasn't going to be huge, but I did think they would be slightly noticeable in the ZL1's favor due to it being rated at 585HP vs what I thought to be somewhere in the 530-ish range on my Bee. quite honestly, my old Bee feels like it pulled stronger overall. I also take in to consideration looking at the ZL1's boost gauge which says it pegs around 8 to 9 lbs of boost. my Bee was set around 7 lbs. So now I'm thinking what the heck? why did my Bee pull harder than an almighty ZL1? I'm hoping it's because the ZL1 is still fresh out of the box and the engine hasn't been "exercised" enough yet. I do realize there is so much more to the ZL1 besides the power plant, but I guess my expectations might have been too high? nonetheless, my old Bee is gone and there's no turning back. I just hope my new ZL1 "wakes up" as more time goes by. __________________

03-25-2013, 04:37 PM	#3
UF4LIFE102SS Treasure Coast Camaro 5 Drives: 2010 2 SS Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Vero Beach, FL. Posts: 4,239 View My Garage	Wheres a pic of the ZL1? Hope the power comes. __________________

03-25-2013, 04:40 PM	#4
SUKXOST Do you even lift, bro? Drives: 2013 1LE Camaro Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Sumter, SC Posts: 3,159 View My Garage	interesting. Kick that mule then! __________________ My 1LE (645WHP/597WTQ) build/journal Thread: 1st ever 1LE COTW http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=255461

03-25-2013, 04:49 PM	#7
UF4LIFE102SS Treasure Coast Camaro 5 Drives: 2010 2 SS Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Vero Beach, FL. Posts: 4,239 View My Garage	Is that the famous 1st Camaro rally place? __________________

03-25-2013, 05:22 PM	#10
Modern07 Mid-Florida Camaro Club Drives: 2019 ZL1 on Order Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Heathrow, FL Posts: 3,136	The 530 you said you had in you old car - was that crank HP or at the wheels? The reported 585hp in the ZL1 is crank hp and that's been translating to approx 480 at the wheels in the automatics on the few stock ones that have been dynoed Just want to rule out that __________________ My Build Thread

03-25-2013, 04:37 PM	#2
KKreme15 Drives: C6 Z06 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Dayton, MD Posts: 1,645	The auto starts in second (assuming you have the auto). At least that's what I've read around here

03-25-2013, 04:54 PM	#9
Zikma Drives: ZL1 2012 # 721; 2013 Tahoe Z71 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Marshfield, Wisconsin Posts: 114 View My Garage	It may be 100% perception but several others here agreed that as the 1500 mile breakin proceeded it seemed like the car really woke up. so perception or reality I dont know.

03-25-2013, 05:28 PM	#11
Muscle SS All blackkk Drives: 2010 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 871	Wouldn't it be fair to say a tranny and engine tune might help substantially? __________________ Drivin it like I stole it.

03-25-2013, 05:30 PM	#12
Jessika Account Suspended Drives: Anything Blown Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,194	I have a solution for you

03-25-2013, 06:06 PM	#14
ayousef Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Dubai Posts: 757	7psi on a high compression 6.2 and an aftermarket tune would definitely feel quicker than a stock ZL1, plus the SS is about 250-300lbs lighter than the ZL1, yes im taking into consideration the blower adds weight but then you might have had a lighter exhaust/headers and so on. Car might also get quicker with a little more miles. My M6 ZL1 put 500rwhp on a Dynojet with 35miles on the odometer. __________________ 1150bhp Whipple 4.0 Supercharged 427ci Camaro ZL1